Turkey vows to mobilize Islamic world against Euro-fascism

[帅的一匹]

Turkey has identification problem.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Churches are outlawed and destroyed

No country in the middle east does this.

people are brutally murdered for leaving their religion

Hardly

women have almost no rights

Name a single middle eastern country.

women are forced to wear bedsheets or face being lashed

Where is this?

Christians are terrorists meanwhile in the Middle East Churches are outlawed and destroyed, gays are beheaded, people are brutally murdered for leaving their religion, women are not allowed to drive, women have almost no rights, women are forced to wear bedsheets or face being lashed, 16 countries ban Jews and many people openly support terrism according to research.

Tell us more about terrorists and Nazis.

So it is clear you don't live in Jordan.

Seriously @Taygibay ? You liked this post?

I expected better from you man.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Yeah,just like we know everything about Bangladesh,you know everything about Turkiye(that is,if you really are from Bangladesh).

my point is one persons actions doesn;t represent everyones, some bengalis label all pakistan bad because what few has done, i dont see the world that way. i have pakistani friends who're not like friends but my brothers .... turkish people are amazing imo and your country is the most beautiful country i have ever been in... and as such... although most of my experience with the dutch has been bad, i don't believe they're all like that

not from bangladesh but yeah i am a citizen....

 

[ptldM3]

No country in the middle east does this.

In places like Saudi Arabia churches are outlawed. Saudi police have even raided homes of people where they were praying.


Here is a link with a list of countries where Christianity is either a crime or highly regulated. Most countries on this list are from the Middle East .


http://www.sharondalecc.org/fire/countries_where_christianity_is_illegal.pdf




You want me to post a mountain of more sources?

Hardly

This is just embarrassing on your part. You have the Internet at your fingertips but choose to put yourself in a situation where literally everything you say is wrong and can be debunked, no excuse for being ignorant.




http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/29/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/



"Apostasy and blasphemy may seem to many like artifacts of history. But in dozens of countries around the world, laws against apostasy and blasphemy remain on the books and often are enforced."

Name a single middle eastern country.

How about a name multiple?


From the Washington Post:

According to one measurement, though, there are actually several countries that rank lower on women;s rights than Saudi Arabia. The World Economic Forum, which publishes the preeminent ranking on gender gap issues, ranked Saudi Arabia 10th from the bottom in its 2013 report -- ahead of Mali, Morocco, Iran, Cote d’Ivoire, Mauritania, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen. Women’s rights abuses are by no means limited to North Africa, West Africa or the Middle East, though that’s where we tend to hear such stories most frequently.


In some of these countries women are not even allowed to drive or have the same legal rights as a man. You done?

Where is this?

Like I said, in some countries women will get lashed and go to prison for not wearing a hijab or some type of bedsheets.




http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_1651-1700/hijab_in_not_a_choice_in_saudi_a.htm

In Saudi Arabia (the birth place of Islam and home to its holy shrines) if a woman does not wear Hijab, she incurs humiliation, interrogation, stigmatization and sometimes lashing and prison.


Even if we put aside laws, many women are still expected to cover their faces or face ridicule, harassment or physical assault you know such as public lashings or acid being thrown in their faces.


From the Pew Research:

Most countries that prefer the western look have millions of Christians btw.

So it is clear you don't live in Jordan.

Seriously @Taygibay ? You liked this post?

I expected better from you man.

It's clear you know nothing and now need something to stop the bleeding from the savage beat down you just received.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

He's acting like a mad cow.

 

[flamer84]

In places like Saudi Arabia churches are outlawed. Saudi police have even raided homes of people where they were praying.


Here is a link with a list of countries where Christianity is either a crime or highly regulated. Most countries on this list are from the Middle East .


http://www.sharondalecc.org/fire/countries_where_christianity_is_illegal.pdf




You want me to post a mountain of more sources?









This is just embarrassing on your part. You have the Internet at your fingertips but choose to put yourself in a situation where literally everything you say is wrong and can be debunked, no excuse for being ignorant.




http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/29/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/



"Apostasy and blasphemy may seem to many like artifacts of history. But in dozens of countries around the world, laws against apostasy and blasphemy remain on the books and often are enforced."


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How about a name multiple?


From the Washington Post:

According to one measurement, though, there are actually several countries that rank lower on women;s rights than Saudi Arabia. The World Economic Forum, which publishes the preeminent ranking on gender gap issues, ranked Saudi Arabia 10th from the bottom in its 2013 report -- ahead of Mali, Morocco, Iran, Cote d’Ivoire, Mauritania, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen. Women’s rights abuses are by no means limited to North Africa, West Africa or the Middle East, though that’s where we tend to hear such stories most frequently.


In some of these countries women are not even allowed to drive or have the same legal rights as a man. You done?









Like I said, in some countries women will get lashed and go to prison for not wearing a hijab or some type of bedsheets.




http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_1651-1700/hijab_in_not_a_choice_in_saudi_a.htm

In Saudi Arabia (the birth place of Islam and home to its holy shrines) if a woman does not wear Hijab, she incurs humiliation, interrogation, stigmatization and sometimes lashing and prison.


Even if we put aside laws, many women are still expected to cover their faces or face ridicule, harassment or physical assault you know such as public lashings or acid being thrown in their faces.


From the Pew Research:


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Most countries that prefer the wester look have millions of Christians btw.






It's clear you know nothing and now need something to stop your bleeding from your savage beat down.

No need to waste your time,their usual answer is #we love and respect our Christian brothers and citizens#....meanwhile,in the real world,every week,some mob in Egypt or Pakistan burns a church down or beats Christians to death on frivoulous reasons but these shameless creatures have the brazen audacity to point their fingers at Europe.They ain t worth a spit.

 

[T-123456]

maybe a joint donated by Mark Rutte(Dutch political party leader)

 

[T-Rex]

Christians are terrorists meanwhile in the Middle East Churches are outlawed and destroyed, gays are beheaded, people are brutally murdered for leaving their religion, women are not allowed to drive, women have almost no rights, women are forced to wear bedsheets or face being lashed, 16 countries ban Jews and many people openly support terrism according to research.

Tell us more about terrorists and Nazis.

So, Hitler and his goons are no terrorists, only Simon aka baghdadi and the Saudi despots are.

 

[Taygibay]

Seriously @Taygibay ? You liked this post?

I expected better from you man.

Well, I can find one nation that fits each of the points
in his description, which makes it factual, man! Sure,
the apostasy case is in Sudan and the lashings in Iran
and the Copts' burned churches in Egypt and so on but
having been called Nazi repeatedly and having just been
served with a warning call to a war of religion that didn't
seem to elicit any Muslim objection save by Starlord ...

I find that a reminder of where individual rights are stronger
is correct. I also gave a Thanks to PakistaniExile's post 60
and I stand by that too.

I'm no one's enemy but can be made into anyone's nemesis.
Just say please like that and then when!

Sorry for the unpleasantness between us
and still all the best to you and yours, Tay.

 

[Solomon2]

“We know the Netherlands and the Dutch from the Srebrenica massacre. We know how rotten their character is from their massacre of 8,000 Bosnians there,”

So Erdo is maneuvering to assert Turkey's right to intervene militarily in Europe itself using "fascism" as an excuse and is trying to mobilize support from Muslims world-wide for any such future endeavor.

 

[xenon54 out]

So Erdo is maneuvering to assert Turkey's right to intervene militarily in Europe itself using "fascism" as an excuse and is trying to mobilize support from Muslims world-wide for any such future endeavor.

Am i the only one seeing his speeches just as populist phrases to secure voters for the coming referandum?

 

[Solomon2]

Am i the only one seeing his speeches just as populist phrases to secure voters for the coming referandum?

Is it working?

 

[xenon54 out]

Is it working?

Dont know, there is a rumor that Erdogan ordered polling organizations that are known to be sympathetic to AKP to stop publishing results.

I tend to a Yes result but it will be a close call either way.


This is the general situation.

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Türkiye_anayasa_değişikliği_referandumu#Anketler

 

[Solomon2]

Lol, i don't understand why everyone got hyped.

What is going to happen; He will deliver a speech in the OIC. Other leaders will nod their heads, maybe a joint declaration. Then leaders will turn back to their countries and all will be forgotten in a week.

Erdogan has shown he's willing to apply military muscle to back his stated political goals. So how do you divine his latest statement is merely an empty nothing?

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Here is a link with a list of countries where Christianity is either a crime or highly regulated. Most countries on this list are from the Middle East .


http://www.sharondalecc.org/fire/countries_where_christianity_is_illegal.pdf

Seriously? Indonesia is waging a holy Jihad against christians?!

Stop it's too funny.

Christianity is not illegal in ANY of these countries. Not even Saudi Arabia bans christianity. If you are a christian in Saudi Arabia, you can freely practice your religion. You just can't build a church or attempt to convert people.

Jordanian christians.

Syrian christians.

Are you getting it yet or do you need more proof?

With the exception of Saudi Arabia pretty much no country in the middle east bans churches.

But there are places in Europe that limit Islam and it's followers. We can talk about italy's ban on building Mosques, we can talk about minaret bans in swizterland. We can talk about Hijab bans in France and we can talk about how Muslims are persecuted by the states in Europe. I laugh at the fact that YOU have the audacity to complain about US. HAH! Europe is not the tolerant wonderland you think it is and neither is the middle east so I suggest you go away petty troll.

According to one measurement, though, there are actually several countries that rank lower on women;s rights than Saudi Arabia. The World Economic Forum, which publishes the preeminent ranking on gender gap issues, ranked Saudi Arabia 10th from the bottom in its 2013 report -- ahead of Mali, Morocco, Iran, Cote d’Ivoire, Mauritania, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen. Women’s rights abuses are by no means limited to North Africa, West Africa or the Middle East, though that’s where we tend to hear such stories most frequently.


In some of these countries women are not even allowed to drive or have the same legal rights as a man. You done?

Except what rights are they lacking? DO they lack the right to vote? No Do they lack the right to a divorce? No

So what? I don't care what some idiot says about this. Saying these are lacking in women's rights is EXTREMELY STUPID.


Come back with some actual facts and evidence not some stupid list made by a hipster or butt-hurt right-winger in the U.S

In Saudi Arabia (the birth place of Islam and home to its holy shrines) if a woman does not wear Hijab, she incurs humiliation, interrogation, stigmatization and sometimes lashing and prison.

Wrong

"Saudi custom (often applied as law) requires that a post-pubertal woman's head and body be covered when outdoors. This is accomplished through the abaya. The face, while often covered by a veil (niqab), may remain uncovered. When not wearing an abaya, e.g., while at home or at work, the women's hair remains covered at all times, with a hijab.

A woman is expected to cover when in the presence of a non-related male, that is, one for whom there exist no bars to marriage. This includes fathers, brothers, spouse, and male children. It does not include first cousins or any strangers.

As Anonymous answers below, there is no one, uniform rule about covering the face. Some cities are less conservative than others. In Jeddah, for example, you'll see many uncovered faces. In others, including a region south of Riyadh, women's faces are covered at puberty and not uncovered until death. These women do not show their faces even to their spouses or children.

The question of female modesty and how it is preserved is a debated one within Saudi Arabia. There has been some pushback from Saudi women shown in their choice to wear abayas that are not all black. This perturbs the religiously conservative and they, too, push back."



Watch this then shut up.

No need to waste your time,their usual answer is #we love and respect our Christian brothers and citizens#....meanwhile,in the real world,every week,some mob in Egypt or Pakistan burns a church down or beats Christians to death on frivoulous reasons but these shameless creatures have the brazen audacity to point their fingers at Europe.They ain t worth a spit.

Bullshit

Also I get to point fingers at whoever I want, if that be Europe or North America, it's called freedom of speech. Nearly everything you have mentioned has happened to Muslims RECENTLY.

Mosques have been burned down and Muslims have been lynched. You want to play the blame game then let's go because I assure you that I have a lot more ammunition in this gun then yours.

Copts' burned churches in Egypt

Not a thing anymore

warning call to a war of religion that didn't
seem to elicit any Muslim objection save by Starlord ...

That's because no-one takes it seriously my friend, any person who does is either joking or way too over his head.

Anyway no hard feelings man, just a little disappointed.