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I'm sorry in advance to others if this is out of topic but I have to straighten up some things.

Militant Muslims have waged periodic Jihad (‘Holy War’) against Christian communities in the Molucca Islands and Sulawesi. Over 600 churches have been destroyed since 1996

Some parts of Indonesia were destroyed by religious violence during late 90s to couple years in early 2000s.

Yes, there were churches burnt.. but there were also mosques burnt, innocent muslims died at the hands of Christian militants -in a conflict that wasn't started by muslims- .. Facts that foreign/western medias love to ignore.


How do I know this?.. One, I grew up in Maluku (Molucca islands) and now living in Sulawesi.. Two, I was there in Maluku when the violence was at its peak. I lost families and friends during the violence.

It's been more than a decade after the peace was made in Maluku and Sulawesi. Our nation is rebuilding. No more Islam vs Christian hate like in the late 90s. Except some bigots, most people now are sick of religious violence. There are still things need improving, but to say Indonesia is hell for Christians is a BIG LIE.

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... hundreds of Muslim men burnt down three churches. Defending Christians killed one Muslim attacker.

Cherry picking. You apparently didn't read the article you quoted. At the last paragraph it says:

"And in July, a mosque was destroyed in the Christian-majority province of Papua, in eastern Indonesia, on the Islamic holy day of Eid al-Fitr."

The incident in Aceh is a "retaliation" of a previous incident in Tolikara, Papua (July 2015) where muslim were attacked first by christian mob during Eid prayer. - Just so you know that violence come from both side, not just muslim.

Every country has its bigots, every community has bad apples. These incidents shouldn't be seen as a face of religious harmony in Indonesia. They're just tiny specks.

For example: The biggest mosque in SEA as well as our national pride is Mosque ISTIQLAL in Jakarta and it's only few hundred meters away from the biggest Cathedral in Indonesia.
The Mosque even often shares its parking lot for the Christian visitors of the Cathedral -whenever needed.

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Others, more "extreme" examples is this Mosque and Church in Solo, Central Java. They SHARED WALL.

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And also this one... Mosque and Church built on the same yard in Sulawesi.
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These examples are just a few among many others.

Please, don't swallow everything you find on the net. If church burning is really a thing in Indonesia like the LIES foreign media love to tell you, that Cathedral and those churches will be long gone.

Christianity is one of the officially recognized religion in Indonesia ever since we declare independence in 1945. They can practice their faith freely, Christian sermon is broadcasted in national TVs every week, Muslims are helping police guarding churches during X-mas or whenever threat of terror emerges.

We may not perfect but we treat our Christian better than some non-muslim majority countries treat their Muslim citizens.

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Turkey is first country to be issued apoligy by Israel.
Great archivement. :tup:

Meanwhile Gaza blockade continues as Israel pleased and Erdogan cant do much about it.

The last time Turkey tried to attack Europe it got crushed. And i´m proud that my proud nation Italy was a core factor to bring the Ottoman Empire down.
Are you still butthurt about Constantinople or something?
 
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Great archivement. :tup:

Meanwhile Gaza blockade continues as Israel pleased and Erdogan cant do much about it.


Are you still butthurt about Constantinople or something?

Why should i? I im italian. We worked hard to make Constantinople going down. Taking out our only rival was best that could happen for Rome. I just think this topic is funny. Will egypt join Erdos battle cry too? I guess al Sisi is not his best friend ha ha ha
 
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Why should i? I im italian. We worked hard to make Constantinople going down. Taking out our only rival was best that could happen for Rome. I just think this topic is funny. Will egypt join Erdos battle cry too? I guess al Sisi is not his best friend ha ha ha
We will lead muslim armies into Rome inshallah.
See you in friday prayer. :)
 
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Siding with the enemies during times of crisis is a common trait of traitors. And it seems we have a handful of them here. Taking isolated events and presenting them as a whole or the norm is restricted to people who can't differentiate between fact and fiction.

Example, mainstream of Turks didn't cut oranges as a protest, 4-5 guys did this.
Example, mainstream Kemalists didn't beat Imams during the 15 July putsch. A couple of them did. However attempting to portray the entire population a certain way through isolated events is beyond any comprehension.

So we are traitors because we are sick and tired of Erdogan's dirty games he plays for votes, power and money, games which are only harming this country, it's reputation, it's values and dividing it's citizens? (FYI Erdogan and AKP =/= Turkey... no matter how much you want to portray it as such.) We are traitors because we are telling you the bitter truths you guys can't handle? For me it's not a problem to admit the good things that have been achieved by Erdogan and AKP since they are in power (especially before the war in Syria when he lost his mind) but why is it so hard for you to admit his/their mistakes? Is he a God on earth who shouldn't be critisized and judged for the things he does? I guess that's how real democracies work... someone does whatever he wants, a bunch of people are worshiping him no matter what and the others who don't like what happens to the country are the big enemies. Damn you Western Nazis for not knowing what real Democracy is!

ps I told you in my previous post what I am standing for and what I want this country to be one day but instead of giving me a response on that you keep on talking about some people betraying the country, about some of them siding with Turkey's enemies and more of the same bullsh*t... o yeah, and about those orange/tulip killers. :D What about the other examples I gave you though (can be even more than those but my response would have been much longer and it was not necessary)?
 
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