Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[Lure]

Aptal aptal konusma ve kimseye hakaret etme. CAY BAHCESINDE Mete Yarar'in sayfalarca ekledigim analizini oku ve RUS ile Iran Propagandasi yapma . Write also in ENGLSH

Ya senin ve senin gibilerle ucuz polemik içine girmek istemiyorum. Zaten ben buraya yazmam, uzak doğu bölümüne yazarım. Hepte İngilizce yazarım bugün ilk kez Türkçe yazdım ki aramızda halledelim, daha fazla İngilizce tartışılmasın diye.

Ben kimseye hakaret etmedim. Fakat sen herhalde "aptal aptal" demenin hakaret olduğunu bilemeyecek kadar aptalsın ki hem kendin hakaret ediyorsun hemde hakaret etme diyorsun. Bu da ilk hakaretim olmuş olsun bari lafın havada kalmasın.

Neyse benimle daha fazla muhattap olmayın gerçekten benim bunun için ne boş vaktim nede isteğim var. Bunları yazdım ki burada olanlar en azından BİR tane TÜRKÜN terörist ve IŞİD sempatizanı olmadığını anlasınlar.

Burası özgür bir platform. Radikal İslam sempatizanları bile konuşabildiğine göre eminim en azından medeni ve Atatürkçü insanlar konuşma hakkına sahip olur.

 

[Rangila]

Turkey warned Russian jet 10 times before shoot-down: US: The US military has backed up backed up Turkey's claim that its pilots had warned the Russian jet at least 10 times, but never got a response before shooting it down.

"We were able to hear everything that was going on, these (communications) were on open channels," military spokesman Colonel Steve Warren told AFP.

 

[The-king]

First they said Turkey didn't shoot down the Russian drone last month and that it just crashed. They sad Turkey is too scared of Russia. What now. Turkey shot down a Russian plane.

turkish and Pakistani pilots best in the world specialy in the cockpit of F-16, shoot like a gangsta

 

[Hakan]

Turkey warned Russian jet 10 times before shoot-down: US: The US military has backed up backed up Turkey's claim that its pilots had warned the Russian jet at least 10 times, but never got a response before shooting it down.

"We were able to hear everything that was going on, these (communications) were on open channels," military spokesman Colonel Steve Warren told AFP.

U.S military backs Turkey's story. Thanks for info.

Pentagon backs Turkey's version of events, blames 'incursion' of Russian jet - Washington Times

 

[nForce]

How many times you repeat this as per NATO standards 3 times enough then you are free to defend your air space.

hmm ? 3 times ? Can you elaborate on that please ? Some sources ?

 

[Serpentine]

If they have no permission then it is fair. Would you support Iran downing the jets if you gave warnings and it happened multiple times? I think you would.

When there is no hostility between 2 countries, no I wouldn't. I would defenitely support shooting down a Saudi jet or American jet violating Iran's airspace, but not a Turkish one, since this is not how things are handled in the world. I would only support that if Turkey was openly showing hostility towards Iran, otherwise, it would only be escalating things quickly. There are much better ways to counter these incidents. Iran for example, stationed some Mig-29s and Tomcats in Tabriz in 90s and flew regular sorties near Turkish border and after that things cooled down, till now.

Shooting down a jet or killing 2 pilots in such conditions will not win a war for either side or defeating the other, it will just escalate things.

I don't expect you to condemn this incident, but you should accept, the nasty game Erdogan is playing in Syria by supporting terror groups for his own agenda is backfiring every single day, you won't agree with me now, but maybe in 10 years when you look back, you will definitely see it.

 

[madmusti]

There are some rumors that the Plane was an "SU-34" and not "SU-24" ? Any News links here ?

 

[Rangila]

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Russian little dog:

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Ya senin ve senin gibilerle ucuz polemik içine girmek istemiyorum. Zaten ben buraya yazmam, uzak doğu bölümüne yazarım. Hepte İngilizce yazarım bugün ilk kez Türkçe yazdım ki aramızda halledelim, daha fazla İngilizce tartışılmasın diye.

Ben kimseye hakaret etmedim. Fakat sen herhalde "aptal aptal" demenin hakaret olduğunu bilemeyecek kadar aptalsın ki hem kendin hakaret ediyorsun hemde hakaret etme diyorsun. Bu da ilk hakaretim olmuş olsun bari lafın havada kalmasın.

Neyse benimle daha fazla muhattap olmayın gerçekten benim bunun için ne boş vaktim nede isteğim var. Bunları yazdım ki burada olanlar en azından BİR tane TÜRKÜN terörist ve IŞİD sempatizanı olmadığını anlasınlar.

Burası özgür bir platform. Radikal İslam sempatizanları bile konuşabildiğine göre eminim en azından medeni ve Atatürkçü insanlar konuşma hakkına sahip olur.

Write in English and please stop leftist propaganda hiding under ATATÜRKS Name

 

[The-king]

hmm ? 3 times ? Can you elaborate on that please ? Some sources ?

Just google it NATO standard procedures to engage intruders.

 

[nForce]

Just google it NATO standard procedures to engage intruders.

I have no idea. Share one.

 

[alaungphaya]

There are some rumors that the Plane was an "SU-34" and not "SU-24" ? Any News links here ?

Have you not seen the very clear pictures and video?

 

[The-king]

I have no idea. Share one.

and don't ask further spoon feeding
http://www.nato.int/docu/handbook/2006/hb-en-2006.pdf

 

[Random111]

Information polluting and propaganda nothing else. As I wrote Russian Commados were engaged from FSA ,

Pilots are alive and transfered to TURKEY

Oh yeah, forgot to say, you're 100% right in terms of pollution and propaganda. Russians are notorious for it unfortunately.
Just look at them focusing on the ''10 warnings in 5 mins'' by saying stuff like we couldn't be in Turkish airspace for 5 mins? Then they go why shoot down, is not a threat etc? They've wrecked a lot of English language fora unfortunately.

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