Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[nForce]

Now Russia will deploy their SAM missiles and will eagerly wait for the next F-16 to take off.

This was silly. There was entirely no reason to escalate the issue this far. Fringing into airspace happens sometimes. That does not mean Russia was trying to threaten or attack Turkey. Turkey could have made it a diplomatic issue, if they have any problem with killing ISIS terrorists. They could have escorted the Russian jet out of their airspace, fired warning shots from their cannons, that's how it is done normally.
Why did they have to shoot it down ? That is extreme hostile action, something that is done when at least one party is convinced it is an act of deliberate aggression.

 

[The-king]

Indian / russian trolls remeber this person

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Hamit Gül -

 

[The-king]

Now Russia will deploy their SAM missiles and will eagerly wait for the next F-16 to take off.

This was silly. There was entirely no reason to escalate the issue this far. Fringing into airspace happens sometimes. That does not mean Russia was trying to threaten or attack Turkey. Turkey could have made it a diplomatic issue, if they have any problem with killing ISIS terrorists. They could have escorted the Russian jet out of their airspace, fired warning shots from their cannons, that's how it is done normally.
Why did they have to shoot it down ?

They warned Russian many times before now luck ran out for Russians, Turks have right to defend their air space.

 

[Random111]

Breaking News , Russian Pilots are alive and will be delivered from FSA to Turkish Military in some hours and treated as guests, before delivering to Russian authorities !

How bro, there are vids/pics online showing them dead?

 

[farhan_9909]

We dont need to do anything. Turkey is on its way to become another Pakistan on its own. Thats what you get when you sleep with jihadis.

Turkey and Pakistan situation is similar(syria/afghanistan) but Pakistan made few mistakes in b/w,i hope they don't repeat it.

At the end of the day,Pakistan is the only country having defeated a true islamist terrorist organization

Is Pakistan on its way to becoming the first country to defeat a large scale Islamist insurgency?

 

[SiCiSi]

Now Russia will deploy their SAM missiles and will eagerly wait for the next F-16 to take off.

This was silly. There was entirely no reason to escalate the issue this far. Fringing into airspace happens sometimes. That does not mean Russia was trying to threaten or attack Turkey. Turkey could have made it a diplomatic issue, if they have any problem with killing ISIS terrorists. They could have escorted the Russian jet out of their airspace, fired warning shots from their cannons, that's how it is done normally.
Why did they have to shoot it down ? That is extreme hostile action, something that is done when at least one party is convinced it is an act of deliberate aggression.

Turks are over reactive and easy to read. WE know they will go into a rage and start acting silly so we can plan for it.

Its like playing with a cat with a laser pointer. We can make them do exactly what we want.

Now we close down Syria airspace and give the Kurds ample room to expand.

Easy.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

How bro, there are vids/pics online showing them dead?

For sure, the killed are Russian CSAR commados who fighted FSA and Türkmens.

Russian Pilots will be delivered to TSK in some hours. Breaking news on NTV

@Yenikuyu

 

[Hakan]

There is no miscalculation in defending your own borders. If a criminal breaks the lock on your door and comes into your house after reading a sign that says not to come in are you not going to defend your home against that person?

 

[Saurabh jindals]

I bet during Turkey meeting with NATO leader , that will be UK, France and Germany which they ask Turkey to apologize and compensate Russia. They will tell Turkey they will not fight for Turkish in case Russia attack Turkey.

There is something very serious going on Putin is going to meet Jorden King Abdhulla informing about the punishment Russia decided for Turkey and US also got away sensing problem.

 

[nForce]

They warned Russian many times before now luck ran out for Russians, Turks have right to defend their air space.

I'm fully aware of the chain of events., just went through the details.

When the bogey does not respond, then the norm is you scramble your own jets and chase him off. Then you fire warning shots. Shooting it down is well within their rights, no question about it if the hostile aircraft is violating their airspace.

But then, one has to think about the repercussions. This could have been handled diplomatically much easily.

 

[Lure]

Birader Rusya Türkiye angajman kuralları değişti diyorum sen okuma özürlü müsün ? 2 defa girmiş adam üstelik. Ayrıca sınırın dışından kilit atmadığı ne malum ? Pilotlarımız sınıra 15 km ötedeyken uyarmaya başlamış Rus uçağını, buna rağmen 2 defa 4 km içerden geçmiş. Bu ne demek ? Sen kimsin ulan demek.

Burada herkes Tayyipin ne yaptığını biliyor. Işidi desteklediğini de biliyoruz. Bunu içimiz de halletmeliyiz. Rusya demokrasi için müdahale ediyorum dese memnun olursun sen. Bu kadar rezillik olmaz yahu.

@madmusti

Kardeş sende okuma özrü var herhalde anlamıyorsun. Senin tanımladığın angajman kuralı zaten başlı başına adamı tehdit etmek ve işini zorlaştırmak için. Amerika Irak'ı işgal ettiğinde senin ülkenin hava sahasını kaç kere izin istemeden kullandı? Senin ülkene füze düştü oğlum füze, hatırlıyorsun değil mi? Senin ülkenin askerinin kafasına çuval geçirildi Süleymaniye'de. Ne yaptın o zaman Amerika'ya karşı? Onlar sana sen kimsin ulan demediler mi? Niye onlara karşı bir şey yapılmadı?

Arkadaş sen geç bunları, ben körü körüne bir şey savunmam. Benim sadakatim Laik Türk cumhuriyetinedir. Öncesine veya sonrasına değil. Gerçek vatanseverinde sadakati buna olur. Ordu bunun bir uzantısıdır. Ordu dediğin halifenin emriyle abuk subuk hareketler yapıyorsa kimse onu savunmaz.

İttihatçılar zamanında padişaha karşı dağa çıkmadılar mı? Senin zihniyette olsalardı aman yabancıya malzeme vermeyelim diye Abdülhamit'in bir tarafını yalamaya devam ederlerdi. Atatürk hakkında padişah ölüm fermanı imzalamadı mı? Senin zihniyetinde olsa Atatürk padişahın sözünden çıkmaz İngilizlerin komutası altına girerdi.

Gençler geçin bunları. Kötü konuşup yok yere kalp kırmak istemiyorum. Sadakat vatanseverlik değildir. Ülken üzerinde oynanan gerçek oyunları görüp buna göre tavır alabilmek vatanseverliktir. Yeri gelir milletin için devletine karşı gelirsin. Zamanında bunu yapan çok Türk büyüğü ve aydını vardır. Bir tanesi Mustafa Kemaldir. Bugünde gün bu saçmalıkların karşısında olma günüdür yanında olmak değil. Bütün dünya sana IŞİD ile birlikte hareket ediyorsun dediğinde sen etmiyorum diyorsun. Bunun bir anlamı yok. Kimse bunu yemiyor. Dünya asil Türk milletine terörist diyor. Eğer gerçekten bu manyaklardan ayrıysanız bunları savunmaya çalışmayın. Aranıza mesafe koyun, Dünya anlasın en azından aklı başında Türklerinde olduğunu.

 

[SiCiSi]

Turkey and Pakistan situation is similar(syria/afghanistan) but Pakistan made few mistakes in b/w,i hope they don't repeat it.

At the end of the day,Pakistan is the only country having defeated a true islamist terrorist organization

Is Pakistan on its way to becoming the first country to defeat a large scale Islamist insurgency?

Yeah not really. The only reason you are not suffering daily suicide bombings now is because you have a PM who resides and has huge business interests in the gulf in exchange for implementing their interests into Pakistan's policies with the main being the closing of the Iran/pak gas pipeline

As soon as you have someone who actually cares about Pakistan and thinks of moving away from dependence on Gulf oil, you will start suffering the same circumstances as before.

 

[Gibbs]

Moscow correspondent for The Wall Street Journal:

Russian state news suggesting Turkey is taking revenge for Russian bombing campaign on ISIS oil trade that flows to Turkey.

— Paul Sonne (@PaulSonne)

 

[Hakan]

Turks are over reactive and easy to read. WE know they will go into a rage and start acting silly so we can plan for it.

Its like playing with a cat with a laser pointer. We can make them do exactly what we want.

Now we close down Syria airspace and give the Kurds ample room to expand.

Easy.

You are the cat, you have spent so much money on Syria and have combat troops there. Turkey has no combat troops there and has not spent much money except on helping refugees. The military option is normally the last option and your country is using it. Turkey still has a lot of cards to play.

 

[SiCiSi]

Moscow correspondent for The Wall Street Journal:

Russian state news suggesting Turkey is taking revenge for Russian bombing campaign on ISIS oil trade that flows to Turkey.

— Paul Sonne (@PaulSonne)

Pretty sure everyone with a working brain knows this. Turkey is mad we are taking down their IS allies.