Turkey invites Malaysia to join its TF-X future fighter jet program

[Ultima Thule]

Is BD a real threat for China Bigger than
USA and India?

Don't troll, you're bigger troll than Chinese and India in this thread

Wandering where Bengali blood /traitors come into your blood vessels?

We are more responsible to get rid of East Pakistan rather Bangalis, we gave them opportunity to separate, and i am saying at neutral point of view, not taking any side

 

[bluesky]

Bangladesh also need to involve with it.

However, BD needs an invitation and it must have the money and talents to join the program. Does Bd have any private company that can do it like Rolls Royce? We have private companies only to produce garments.

A govt nurtures private companies from the very beginning that did not happen in BD. Take note of those white elephants called Bangladesh Railways, BIMAN, etc. All are owned by the GoB and are operated by the inefficient and corrupt people who love to call their country Golden Bangladesh.

 

[mb444]

I would say it is critical that BD gets involved in this. Whilst we wont bring any technical knowledge to the venture we can provide finance that all parties will welcome. This would be a fantastic learning experience, may start a new sector and provides truely independent defense options in the future.

 

[Avicenna]

However, BD needs an invitation and it must have the money and talents to join the program. Does Bd have any private company that can do it like Rolls Royce? We have private companies only to produce garments.

A govt nurtures private companies from the very beginning that did not happen in BD. Take note of those white elephants called Bangladesh Railways, BIMAN, etc. All are owned by the GoB and are operated by the inefficient and corrupt people who love to call their country Golden Bangladesh.

You're such a debbie downer.

Look, educated Bangladeshis are very high caliber people intellectually.

Of course, the nation has something to offer any project.

Also, keep in mind, everyone has to start somewhere.

Even big fish like the USSR or China or for that matter the US.

 

[VikingRaider]

However, BD needs an invitation and it must have the money and talents to join the program. Does Bd have any private company that can do it like Rolls Royce? We have private companies only to produce garments.

Joining this project isn't day dream of Hasina like sending voyage to moon. It's all about defense. I think we should take it as top priority over everything. Defense should be considered as necessary as 5 basic needs. Situation is fast changing in the world and specially in this south Asian region. So Bangladesh is under threat, and we can't believe anyone 100%. So when it's the question of defending our country I would give it a top priority. I don't know from where the money will come, but if govt can manage money, then why can't we join here? Of course we can join and we should join.

A govt nurtures private companies from the very beginning that did not happen in BD. Take note of those white elephants called Bangladesh Railways, BIMAN, etc. All are owned by the GoB and are operated by the inefficient and corrupt people who love to call their country Golden Bangladesh.

There is a difference between railway, BIMAN and other govt corporation than this one. If Bangladesh will join in this project I am sure it will be supervised under Bangladesh armed forces who's record is very good, and they are totally a corruption free organization in Bangladesh ; perhaps the only organization that is corruption free and also not politicalized. So yes I don't think that there is possibilty to be failed (due to corruption) in this sector if we can join.

 

[bluesky]

You're such a debbie downer.

Look, educated Bangladeshis are very high caliber people intellectually.

Of course, the nation has something to offer any project.

Also, keep in mind, everyone has to start somewhere.

Even big fish like the USSR or China or for that matter the US.

Rolls Royce has invited a Malaysian company and not individuals. To build institutions and organizations to nurture talents is what is needed in a country. Individual talents are judged by the employee companies by their own yardsticks. They are trained to produce in given projects. This is how they learn and then contribute.

This is happening in all the Western developed countries. This is how some of the talents from the 3rd world countries are recruited and they develop their talents in a cognitive environment that is lacking in Bangladesh.

Without any such anchorage points, talents remain scattered without getting an opportunity to develop. By the way, I thought all the human groups if properly educated are talented. But, a country needs to nurture them via private organizations.

 

[Avicenna]

Rolls Royce has invited a Malaysian company and not individuals. To build institutions and organizations to nurture talents is what is needed in a country. Individual talents are judged by the employee companies by their own yardsticks. They are trained to produce in given projects. This is how they learn and then contribute.

This is happening in all the Western developed countries. This is how some of the talents from the 3rd world countries are recruited and they develop their talents in a cognitive environment that is lacking in Bangladesh.



Otherwise, talents remain scattered without getting an anchorage point. By the way, I thought all the human groups if properly educated possess are talented. But, a country needs to nurture them via private organizations.

Yes agreed.

But its not too late to get that started in Bangladesh.

The prospect for such things were less of a priority if at all in the past.

Economic improvement brings about a shift in priorities and needs not to mention possibilities.

Bangladesh perhaps doesn't have the educational set up to produce what is needed for it.

But if you look at the Bangladeshi origin folks in the West.

Especially the kids of immigrants.

Mix who they are and the opportunities presented to them educationally and see how they are succeeding.

This gives hope if that human talent can be harnessed in Bangladesh proper.

 

[bluesky]

Yes agreed.

But its not too late to get that started in Bangladesh.

The prospect for such things were less of a priority if at all in the past.

Economic improvement brings about a shift in priorities and needs not to mention possibilities.

Bangladesh perhaps doesn't have the educational set up to produce what is needed for it.

But if you look at the Bangladeshi origin folks in the West.

Especially the kids of immigrants.

Mix who they are and the opportunities presented to them educationally and see how they are succeeding.

This gives hope if that human talent can be harnessed in Bangladesh proper.

Do you really think Bangladesh without any real system almost in any sector can suddenly jump-start without first going through all the necessary pains and years of perseverance? Private entrerpreneurship is highly discouraged in BD, it follows a socialist approach. And the govt tries to employ educated people in itself by creating many unworthy unproductive organizations.

 

[Avicenna]

Do you really think Bangladesh without any real system almost in any sector can suddenly jump-start without first going through all the necessary pains and years of perseverance? Private entrerpreneurship is highly discouraged in BD, it follows a socialist approach. And the govt tries to employ educated people in itself by creating many unworthy unproductive organizations.

How would you suggest one fix the problem?

 

[R4hil]

It is Most definitely possible if proper educational institutions are managed. Here in New York there is a clear trend that can be seen in the Bangladeshi Diaspora. Many first generation Bangladeshi immigrants live difficult lives and work minimum wage jobs or as things such as a cab drivers, However the second generation is observably more successful. Their parents more often than not put a serious emphasis on education, and due to this there has been a significant uptick in Bangladeshi people working professional jobs. Many are graduating the Top schools at the top of their classes. I believe the same model can be followed in Bangladesh if only there were to be a strong educational base set up.

 

[Avicenna]

It is Most definitely possible if proper educational institutions are managed. Here in New York there is a clear trend that can be seen in the Bangladeshi Diaspora. Many first generation Bangladeshi immigrants live difficult lives and work minimum wage jobs or as things such as a cab drivers, However the second generation is observably more successful. Their parents more often than not put a serious emphasis on education, and due to this there has been a significant uptick in Bangladeshi people working professional jobs. Many are graduating the Top schools at the top of their classes. I believe the same model can be followed in Bangladesh if only there were to be a strong educational base set up.

Yup.

Lotta high caliber Bangladeshi-Americans being churned out.

Credit to their hard working parents and values of Bangladeshi society.

Of course intermixed with the educational and financial opportunities present in the US.

 

[R4hil]

Yup.

Lotta high caliber Bangladeshi-Americans being churned out.

Credit to their hard working parents and values of Bangladeshi society.

Of course intermixed with the educational and financial opportunities present in the US.

People Have the same sort of drive back in Bangladesh. Have you seen how crazy students go to get In to Dhaka University? The country is sitting on a pile of skilled workers and are not using them. There's a reason why nearly 40% college grads are unemployed out of school. There are simply no jobs and the government are not supporting them so they just move abroad. There will not be such a source of well educated laborers forever, it is just squandered promise.

 

[Avicenna]

People Have the same sort of drive back in Bangladesh. Have you seen how crazy students go to get In to Dhaka University? The country is sitting on a pile of skilled workers and are not using them. There's a reason why nearly 40% college grads are unemployed out of school. There are simply no jobs and the government are not supporting them so they just move abroad. There will not be such a source of well educated laborers forever, it is just squandered promise.

Exactly.

This needs to change for the betterment of the nation.

A lot of untapped human potential.

 

[R4hil]

On the subject of the TFX what are the odds of Bangladesh actually joining the Program? I believe that even if they are not part of it they will probably be customers when (not if) it is for sale.

 

[Tom-tom]

Let's say Bangladesh does get involved in the technical aspects of this fighter jet. What are the chances of Indians bullying Bangladesh for insights in this jet?
I think there is a very good chance of Indians bullying Bangladesh for the tech of this jet..

This could a possible reason why Turkey won't allow bd in the technical side of thid fighter.