Time to prepare for China's aircraft carrier

[topjumper]

That means we can't put on heavy fighter jets on the AC, heard rumors that there are two versions of chinese 5th gen fighters and one will be capable of vertical take off like F-35, not sure how credible that claim is...

 

[below_freezing]

That's because the Brits use small carriers, hence less roomy. That's why a Ski Jump is needed to give aircrafts a boost in altitude or else, some aircrafts can't generate enough lift to take off before they plunge down without a jump.

thanks for the info.

if we use a ski jump it means that our carriers would likely be unable to operate too far from the safety of land based radars and AWAC aircraft.

however i think we can still use heavy fighters, their double engines can provide enough thrust, see Su-33.

 

[lockh33d]

thanks for the info.

if we use a ski jump it means that our carriers would likely be unable to operate too far from the safety of land based radars and AWAC aircraft.

however i think we can still use heavy fighters, their double engines can provide enough thrust, see Su-33.

That means CHINA NEEDS A CATAPULT SYSTEM. Or, it can have AWACS with surprisingly powerful engines or surprisingly low massed.

Yes, powerful enough engines will do.

 

[lockh33d]

That means we can't put on heavy fighter jets on the AC, heard rumors that there are two versions of chinese 5th gen fighters and one will be capable of vertical take off like F-35, not sure how credible that claim is...

Hmmm, Heavy fighters are no prob if you can supplement them with an adequate enough engine which can provide enough lift so that they don't start plunging right after take-off.

 

[SXNJ]

guys, didn't you hear that we have "got" the CATAPULT tech from US? don't worry about that.....

 

[mivy]

Chinese AC will be a big problem for Indian navy in future as Indian force are lacking behind in numbers and all the projects are too late

its time when India should think seriously and increase there numbers next 10 -15 years are very important for India and china

now its time when Indian govt should think for its country future how they will handle and critical time in future

I think even China have her own AC, it will not threat India. The two countries are the two largest developing countries in the world, they have common benefit in many global issues. China is developing her navy, but the energy supply in Indian Ocean still need the help and the gurantee of Indian government.

Besides, no matter how powerful China and India will be, they both cannot rival the Global police US Navy the 5-th fleet.

 

[xuxu1457]

 

[no_name]

Good looking new air defense destroyer with laser CIWS.

btw is the carrier shown the new carrier? Looks too big to be reworked varyag
What's the credibility of the CGI i.e. whether they are based on actual plans

 

[aimarraul]

What's the credibility of the CGI i.e. whether they are based on actual plans

just some fancier's work.....

 

[Luftwaffe]

 

[Shaggy82]

All the chineese military equipments are mare copies of russian technology..

all those who dont know about VARYAG there is some news.
Varyag was to be an Admiral Kuznetsov class multirole aircraft carrier. She was known as Riga[2] when her keel was laid down at Nikolayev South (formerly Shipyard 444) in Nikolayev December 6, 1985.[3]Design of the carrier was undertaken by the Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau.[4] She was launched December 4, 1988, but she was renamed Varyag (Varangian) in late 1990, after the famous Russian cruiser.

Construction stopped by 1992 with the ship structurally complete but without electronics. Ownership was transferred to Ukraine as the Soviet Union broke up and the ship was laid up unmaintained, then stripped. In early 1998, she lacked engines, a rudder, and much of her operating systems. She was put up for auction.

Currently the ship is being examined and repaired by China's People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) after purchasing it at auction[5]. It was widely reported that the ship would become a casino in the Chinese SAR of Macau. This has been proven incorrect as the ship is in a drydock in Dalian and painted PLAN grey. News reports state that the ship is being refitted to be made operational.[1][6]

for last dacade china have been trying to copy this aircraft carrier.

 

[below_freezing]

All the chineese military equipments are mare copies of russian technology..

all those who dont know about VARYAG there is some news.
Varyag was to be an Admiral Kuznetsov class multirole aircraft carrier. She was known as Riga[2] when her keel was laid down at Nikolayev South (formerly Shipyard 444) in Nikolayev December 6, 1985.[3]Design of the carrier was undertaken by the Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau.[4] She was launched December 4, 1988, but she was renamed Varyag (Varangian) in late 1990, after the famous Russian cruiser.

Construction stopped by 1992 with the ship structurally complete but without electronics. Ownership was transferred to Ukraine as the Soviet Union broke up and the ship was laid up unmaintained, then stripped. In early 1998, she lacked engines, a rudder, and much of her operating systems. She was put up for auction.

Currently the ship is being examined and repaired by China's People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) after purchasing it at auction[5]. It was widely reported that the ship would become a casino in the Chinese SAR of Macau. This has been proven incorrect as the ship is in a drydock in Dalian and painted PLAN grey. News reports state that the ship is being refitted to be made operational.[1][6]

for last dacade china have been trying to copy this aircraft carrier.

yeah our stuff is copies of the russian stuff

yours is the "real stuff" honorably purchased at full price due to an inability to produce anything.

your country brags about Su-30s, a plane with not a single nail produced in india.

at least our country can produce Su-30 style planes without needing to ask the Russians to provide nails or the leather seats.

btw i heard about LCA since i was in elementary school, back then it was "about to be inducted into the air force"... we already got our far superior J-10s into the sky 4 years ago while the LCA is still "about to be inducted into the air force".

 

[topjumper]

These are nice pics.

Heard the rumors (again, rumors that Varyag will probably be ready later this year, it'll not go on patrol further afield from the shore, it really is an initial model for us to test out all the complex systems on the carrier and serve as a foundation for our domestic ones, various people are saying that the domestic ones will be in the waters by 2012.

The 2012 date does seem to have some logic behind it based on what we know from the chinese official information release, Dalian warship academy in 2008 took on 50 jet fighter pilots for warship captains on a 4 year training program, (also remember the rumors going around from the russians that they hoped china to buy at least 50 SU-33? lol... that worked out for them). So 2012 ~ 2013 would be an interesting time to watch out for that space.

Also heard that J-15 has already successfully flown and will be equipped on these carriers. Again, we don't know for sure until the chinese government official acknowledge it.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

That ain't no casino ....

 

[applesauce]

That ain't no casino ....

shhhhhhhh, eh hem nothing to see here ladies and gentlemen