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Time to abandon Ummah / brotherhood for greater good of the nation?

Jews Christeans and munafkeen trying this thing not for now but from long time they got a bit of success but they were not able to completely remove islamic brother hood from Muslims. same here how much you internet wariors try you might not able to put your agenda's on others.
i am enough quoting here from Quraan
English Translation by Muhammad Shameem, Mohammad Wali Raazi and Muhammad Taqi Usmani:

Say, "O disbelievers, [1] I do not worship that which you worship, [2] nor do you worship the One whom I worship. [3] And neither I am going to worship that which you have worshipped, [4] nor will you worship the One whom I worship. [5] For you is your faith, and for me, my faith." [6]
 
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Jews Christeans and munafkeen trying this thing not for now but from long time they got a bit of success but they were not able to completely remove islamic brother hood from Muslims. same here how much you internet wariors try you might not able to put your agenda's on others.
i am enough quoting here from Quraan
English Translation by Muhammad Shameem, Mohammad Wali Raazi and Muhammad Taqi Usmani:

Say, "O disbelievers, [1] I do not worship that which you worship, [2] nor do you worship the One whom I worship. [3] And neither I am going to worship that which you have worshipped, [4] nor will you worship the One whom I worship. [5] For you is your faith, and for me, my faith." [6]

Not sure why do people keep bringing quranic versus when we are not discussing theory but factual reality on ground. Quran also says a lot of other good things - they are not applied today by Muslims anymore unfortunately.
 
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Not sure why do people keep bringing quranic versus when we are not discussing theory but factual reality on ground. Quran also says a lot of other good things - they are not applied today by Muslims anymore unfortunately.
Mr Quran is the reason for everything you can't put Quran aside if you want to talk about Ummah and anything else related to Islam Quran and Hadees are the source and only those them will make things clear not anything else or the thoughts of western slaves and traitors of Islam
 
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Not sure why do people keep bringing quranic versus when we are not discussing theory but factual reality on ground. Quran also says a lot of other good things - they are not applied today by Muslims anymore unfortunately.

All his arguments were already proved false by Koran itself before in this topic. Yet he keeps parroting incessantly eager for a debate on religious lines
 
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Mr Quran is the reason for everything you can't put Quran aside if you want to talk about Ummah and anything else related to Islam Quran and Hadees are the source and only those them will make things clear not anything else or the thoughts of western slaves and traitors of Islam

All his arguments were already proved false by Koran itself before in this topic. Yet he keeps parroting incessantly eager for a debate on religious lines

Quran only works one way for them depending on which political ideology they are scripted to..

1. Arab Supermacy (Imperialism)
2. Ummah & Brotherhood (Socialism)
3. Khilafat Movement (Fascism)
4. Nizam e Mustafi (Dictatorship)
 
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Just as a general note, religions tend to benefit more their founding groups then their followers.

This was true for the European Holy states, and certainly stands true for the Saudi Arabians. How much money do they make off of the annual congregation? How many nations are willing to send in their armies to protect that holy country?
 
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Just as a general note, religions tend to benefit more their founding groups then their followers.

This was true for the European Holy states, and certainly stands true for the Saudi Arabians. How much money do they make off of the annual congregation? How many nations are willing to send in their armies to protect that holy country?

Religion was there insurance policy against a super power post 9/11 where America had to swallow its pride despite 15 hijackers being Saudi, the mastermind and most wanted fugitive being a Saudi and much of the AQ financiers and manpower being Saudi.
 
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Religion was there insurance policy against a super power post 9/11 where America had to swallow its pride despite 15 hijackers being Saudi, the mastermind and most wanted fugitive being a Saudi and much of the AQ financiers and manpower being Saudi.
So what Sir Jihad is farz on Muslim in the whole world and if they are trying to help Jihad and help Muslims than that is good and proves the concept of Ummah
 
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So what Sir Jihad is farz on Muslim in the whole world and if they are trying to help Jihad and help Muslims than that is good and proves the concept of Ummah

And your cover is blown - another Al Qaeda sympathizer!!!

You are trying to sell us that terrorism is a good thing. There is no doubt that your loyalty is with your terrorist masters like OBL and not with the state you bear citizenship of. Your people and your country in your eyes is just a cannon fodder to fullfil the goals of your terrorist masters. What is next? Appraise for TTP and Talibans??

Tell me how did this so called Jihad of 9/11 helped the Muslims?

Proves the concept of Ummah???

Zarvan, do you have slightest common sense of what you are talking or years of parroting in madrasahs have ceased your rational thinking abilities??
 
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And your cover is blown - another Al Qaeda sympathizer!!!


Zarvan, do you have slightest common sense of what you are talking or years of parroting in madrasahs have ceased your rational thinking abilities??

His lack of punctuation should have given it away.
 
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Time to adopt an integrated Muslim world and get rid of Arab and Malaysian kinks + mothelands + Turkish drama queens.

Just like Israel is holy for most of the Jews and Europe is predominantly a Christian union - Muslim world needs union too.
 
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The reason for downfall of Muslims is that they are gullible and blindly believe anti-Muslim propaganda of Hindu India and Jewish Israel.

Pakistan is the only Muslim nation which succeeded in making atomic bomb which was termed as Islamic Bomb by world media. Pakistan is the only country that helped Afghans defeat the Soviet Union. Pakistan also defeated USA in Afghanistan and made it bankrupt. As soon as she leaves, Pakistan will help Taliban to regain Afghanistan.

Afghans on the other hand are sellouts like Karzai, Masood and Rabbani.

Afghans are still divided in tribes. Pashtun versus the non Pahsutn. Allamah
Iqbal had advised "

قبائل ہو ں ملت کی وحدت میں گم
کہ ہوںام افغانیوں کا سربلند

Allamah Iqbal blew soul in the dying Ummah which was under the yoke of British & French slavery.

But many Afghans are traitors and are playing in the hands of Hindu India and creating trouble in Baluchistan and Khyber.

Afghans are so shameless that they do not recognize Pakistan's help of giving shelter to 5 million Afghans.

Pray, what Afghanistan has done for Islam and Ummah?
 
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The reason for downfall of Muslims is that they are gullible and blindly believe anti-Muslim propaganda of Hindu India and Jewish Israel.

Pakistan is the only Muslim nation which succeeded in making atomic bomb which was termed as Islamic Bomb by world media. Pakistan is the only country that helped Afghans defeat the Soviet Union. Pakistan also defeated USA in Afghanistan and made it bankrupt. As soon as she leaves, Pakistan will help Taliban to regain Afghanistan.

Afghans on the other hand are sellouts like Karzai, Masood and Rabbani.

Afghans are still divided in tribes. Pashtun versus the non Pahsutn. Allamah
Iqbal had advised "

قبائل ہو ں ملت کی وحدت میں گم
کہ ہوںام افغانیوں کا سربلند

Allamah Iqbal blew soul in the dying Ummah which was under the yoke of British & French slavery.

But many Afghans are traitors and are playing in the hands of Hindu India and creating trouble in Baluchistan and Khyber.

Afghans are so shameless that they do not recognize Pakistan's help of giving shelter to 5 million Afghans.

Pray, what Afghanistan has done for Islam and Ummah?

The reason for Downfall is that you still belive India is HINDU INDIA & Israel is JEWISH Israel
 
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Pakistan is the only Muslim nation which succeeded in making atomic bomb which was termed as Islamic Bomb by world media. Pakistan is the only country that helped Afghans defeat the Soviet Union. Pakistan also defeated USA in Afghanistan and made it bankrupt. As soon as she leaves, Pakistan will help Taliban to regain Afghanistan.

Source: Time to abandon Ummah / brotherhood for greater good of the nation? | Page 29
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Allamah Iqbal blew soul in the dying Ummah which was under the yoke of British & French slavery.

Source: Time to abandon Ummah / brotherhood for greater good of the nation? | Page 29:victory:
 
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What we need in Pakistan is a strong rise of Nationalism and Facism which can reverse years of forgien influence and a leader who actually have balls to face the world stage instead of one who can be bought with aid.

Strong rise in nationalism? Fascism? You want us to go Hitler Youth style, with all the marching and jingoistic chest beating?
I'm surprised you didn't mention the thing this nation DESPERATELY needs. EDUCATION.
 
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