Time to abandon Ummah / brotherhood for greater good of the nation?

[Vinod2070]

Than why would a idiot like you be replying to my post if you don't care? Or are you confused?

As i said, i wouldn't be surprised if you already do insult Islam and the Prophets, because i have seen your compatriots do that on indian forums, and to top it off hindu indian moderators of those forums don't do anything to stop the Islam bashing.

So, yeah, take a hike bharati.

Last time for you.

It is in your hands not to have your favorite people insulted.

You know what to do, or rather what not to do.

 

[Desert Fox]

Last time for you.


It is in your hands not to have your favorite people insulted.

You know what to do, or rather what not to do.

I thought you didn't care about what i had to say yet you are still replying to my posts, so you do care then. What a confused bharati

 

[zip]

The people who are in favour of umma are not even capable of making peace with fellow forum members ..use derogatory words if someone has different opinion.. And they are advocating for muslim brotherhood ..amazing ...

 

[somebozo]

The people who are in favour of umma are not even capable of making peace with fellow forum members ..use derogatory words if someone has different opinion.. And they are advocating for muslim brotherhood ..amazing ...

You hit the name on its head..some memebers here like BLACKEAGLE and IbnWalid have zero tolerance towards opposing viewpoints!

 

[Armstrong]

You hit the name on its head..some memebers here like BLACKEAGLE and IbnWalid have zero tolerance towards opposing viewpoints!

I see and you apparently do ! With all the 'Nejadi Imperalism' rant going on...!

 

[Zarvan]

You hit the name on its head..some memebers here like BLACKEAGLE and IbnWalid have zero tolerance towards opposing viewpoints!

Yes Sir every Muslim should have zero tolerance against anti Islam and Anti Ummah things because that is part of our Faith and we doesn't tolerate anything vulgar or attacks on Islam

 

[Wright]

Yes Sir every Muslim should have zero tolerance against anti Islam and Anti Ummah things because that is part of our Faith and we doesn't tolerate anything vulgar or attacks on Islam

As they say...

"Intolerance is evidence of impotence."

 

[Wright]

Yes Sir every Muslim should have zero tolerance against anti Islam and Anti Ummah things because that is part of our Faith and we doesn't tolerate anything vulgar or attacks on Islam

As they say...

"Intolerance is evidence of impotence."

 

[somebozo]

I see and you apparently do ! With all the 'Nejadi Imperalism' rant going on...!

I am only presenting facts and realities. i did not coin this term it has been in use in Arabia for a long term. If British come to rule it is called British Imperialism, If italians come to rule it would be called Italian imperialism similarly the current ruling family is from nejd and it is only appropriate to call najdi imperialism.

 

[Armstrong]

I am only presenting facts and realities

Oh...!

 

[Juice]

Ok here for non muslim if they say muslims should not become an ummah is understandable but muslims????
for non muslims i have no need to argue because our priorities are different we follow different religions and our beliefs are not the same.
But for muslims who are arguing here i have just 2 questions
1. it is mention in Quran if you believe that Quran is ALLAH pak's word then how could a muslim argue against???
or are you more knowledgeable??
2. if right now dajjal arrives what would you people do?? if it arrives in Iran then you people say leave it to iranians it is there problem???
if it reaches KSA you people will say leave it to them ???
if Pakistan then other muslims will say leave it is pakistan's problem to deal with it???
it is part of our eman to support a brotherhood between muslims.
or
you are going on same ways like bani isreal??
few people on other thread said Mecca and Madina are protected by ALLAH and he will protect them. but is it not our responsibility to defend it??


if you dont have points to argue then please give rest to your keyboard.
if i start posting from bible then??? please keep thing aside which your little brain can't digest.

Go ahead, semetic myths do not govern my life.

Could you explain a complicated interstellar(or perhaps interdimensional) transport to an uneducated Bedouin any other way?

Well said, this is one way to look at these old myths, trying to explain the unknown.

 

[somebozo]

Ok here for non muslim if they say muslims should not become an ummah is understandable but muslims????
for non muslims i have no need to argue because our priorities are different we follow different religions and our beliefs are not the same.
But for muslims who are arguing here i have just 2 questions
1. it is mention in Quran if you believe that Quran is ALLAH pak's word then how could a muslim argue against???
or are you more knowledgeable??

Bring us where it says that - Quran must have said that a community of Muslims should stick together but no way it infuses a socialist like concept of pan-Islamism. Much of the pan-islamist leaders were covert commies struggling to exert influence in the Islamic world and backstabbing each other - hence each of them met a horrible fate.

2. if right now dajjal arrives what would you people do?? if it arrives in Iran then you people say leave it to iranians it is there problem???

When he arrived then we can think about it. Prophet SAW has advised the muslims to stay away from dajjal and stay away from the areas he is known to be present. So just, that is exactly what we should do. Leave it on to them.

if it reaches KSA you people will say leave it to them ???

Yes - or the pan-arabist would once again switch to ummah mode.

if Pakistan then other muslims will say leave it is pakistan's problem to deal with it???
it is part of our eman to support a brotherhood between muslims.

Support brotherhood, not terrorism and socialism.

or
you are going on same ways like bani isreal??

Bani israel always stuck together - unless you are preaching some mullah fabricated stories.

few people on other thread said Mecca and Madina are protected by ALLAH and he will protect them. but is it not our responsibility to defend it??

Those who call themselves custodian of two holy mosque should take full responsibility for it or withdraw from the title. Remember Makkah and Medina are not a private estate of anyone.

if you dont have points to argue then please give rest to your keyboard.
if i start posting from bible then??? please keep thing aside which your little brain can't digest.

lets not bring Quran, Torah and Bible into this...you are one confused person..everyone has a reason to believe what they want to believe.

Looks like you went through the route of discovering tableeghi jamat, dawat-e-islami and jamat-e-islami - a bit about eveyone of them and ended up being really confused. If one want to sit down and take a rational look at Islamic history one would find many objective mistakes and myths made up to glorify certain power factions or ruling class of that time.

 

[King Solomon]

I see and you apparently do ! With all the 'Nejadi Imperalism' rant going on...!

So, we should abandon reality and continue to live in some fantasy land?

Najd is the desert part of Saudi arabia. From there, the extremist form of Islam emerged which plagued so many countries starting from afghanistan to chechnya. Hence, the "najdi imperialism".

Bring us where it says that - Quran must have said that a community of Muslims should stick together but no way it infuses a socialist like concept of pan-Islamism. Much of the pan-islamist leaders were covert commies struggling to exert influence in the Islamic world and backstabbing each other - hence each of them met a horrible fate.

The thing is... the meaning of the word "ummah" is itself a community or a nation based on cohesion but everybody assumes it is some pan islamist thing. In some verses this ummah is referred to as "religion" and contextually, any sect/division within religion has to be avoided.but it is definitely not the pan islamist thing

 

[Zarvan]

Bring us where it says that - Quran must have said that a community of Muslims should stick together but no way it infuses a socialist like concept of pan-Islamism. Much of the pan-islamist leaders were covert commies struggling to exert influence in the Islamic world and backstabbing each other - hence each of them met a horrible fate.



When he arrived then we can think about it. Prophet SAW has advised the muslims to stay away from dajjal and stay away from the areas he is known to be present. So just, that is exactly what we should do. Leave it on to them.



Yes - or the pan-arabist would once again switch to ummah mode.




Support brotherhood, not terrorism and socialism.


Bani israel always stuck together - unless you are preaching some mullah fabricated stories.



Those who call themselves custodian of two holy mosque should take full responsibility for it or withdraw from the title. Remember Makkah and Medina are not a private estate of anyone.




lets not bring Quran, Torah and Bible into this...you are one confused person..everyone has a reason to believe what they want to believe.

Looks like you went through the route of discovering tableeghi jamat, dawat-e-islami and jamat-e-islami - a bit about eveyone of them and ended up being really confused. If one want to sit down and take a rational look at Islamic history one would find many objective mistakes and myths made up to glorify certain power factions or ruling class of that time.

Sir the concept of Ummah is very clear and it is above the false GOD of Nationalism and it binds Muslims in the strongest form of brotherhood under one Kalmah and and it is above race and colour and area and betraying it is Kufr because you directly deny and defy orders of ALLAH in Quran and Hadees of HAZRAT MUHAMMMAD SAW

 

[Juice]

What does the Koran say about Italian Catholic criminal gangs? (noticed you have "mafia" as your avatar)