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The US defeated for the 30s when his Planes closer to 70 nautical miles Lost Control in south China

Hi,

Simpleton's analysis---.

It was done intentionally by the US---. Now the US will analyze and overcome the issue if it is important enough---.

What an idiotic video---.

Hello,

Is this also an idiotic report by the Wall Street Journal?

China Installed Military Jamming Equipment on Spratly Islands, U.S. Says
Disclosure comes as Chinese military conducts what U.S. officials describe as its largest military exercise to date in South China Sea
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Jamming equipment located on Mischief Reef in the South China Sea in a satellite photo taken by DigitalGlobe, a commercial space imagery firm. The photo was commissioned by the U.S. military, which added the color inset showing the type of equipment installed on the outpost in the Spratly Islands.PHOTO: DIGITALGLOBE

By


Michael R. Gordon in Washington and

Jeremy Page in Beijing

April 9, 2018 5:32 am ET
China has installed equipment on two of its fortified outposts in the Spratly Islands capable of jamming communications and radar systems, a significant step in its creeping militarization of the South China Sea, U.S. officials say.

The move strengthens China’s ability to assert its extensive territorial claims and hinder U.S. military operations in a contested region that includes some of the world’s busiest shipping routes.

The disclosure comes as the Chinese military is conducting what U.S. officials describe as its largest military exercise to date in the South China Sea, maneuvers that include China’s first aircraft carrier as well as air force and ground units.

A U.S. Defense Department official, describing the finding, said: “China has deployed military jamming equipment to its Spratly Island outposts.”

The U.S. assessment is supported by a photo taken last month by the commercial satellite company DigitalGlobe and provided to The Wall Street Journal. It shows a suspected jammer system with its antenna extended on Mischief Reef, one of seven Spratly outcrops where China has built fortified artificial islands since 2014, moving sand onto rocks and reefs and paving them over with concrete.

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China’s Defense Ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.

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Beijing claims “indisputable” sovereignty over all South China Sea islands and their adjacent waters and demarcates its claims with a U-shaped line stretching from the Chinese coast almost as far south as Malaysia.

China says its island-building is for defensive purposes only, but the activity has stirred fears that it could use the outposts to enforce territorial claims that overlap with those of Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam, as well as the Philippines, which is a U.S. treaty ally. In the last year or so, China has tried to smooth relations with other claimants while continuing work on the islands.

Three of its outposts in the Spratlys—Fiery Cross Reef, Mischief Reef and Subi Reef—now feature 10,000-foot runways, hangars for fighter planes, ammunition bunkers, barracks and deep-water piers for ships.

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While Chinese military personnel are at the Spratly outposts and Chinese ships dock there, China has yet to station ground units or fighter planes on the artificial islands, U.S. officials say. Nor have surface-to-air missiles or antiship cruise missiles been deployed in the Spratlys, though spots to install such weapons have been prepared, U.S. officials said.

But China’s ability to quickly shift military assets to the outposts is a serious concern for the Pentagon since it could enable China to control vital trade routes, exclude other claimants from disputed areas and interfere with the U.S. military’s plans to defend Taiwan.

“China has built a massive infrastructure specifically—and solely—to support advanced military capabilities that can deploy to the bases on short notice,” Adm. Harry Harris, the head of the U.S. Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee last month.

According to U.S. intelligence, the new jamming equipment was deployed within the past 90 days on Fiery Cross Reef and Mischief Reef.

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“While China has maintained that the construction of the islands is to ensure safety at sea, navigation assistance, search and rescue, fisheries protection and other nonmilitary functions, electronic-jamming equipment is only for military use,” the U.S. Defense Department official said.

The U.S. regards most of the South China Sea as international waters and has sent ships through the Spratly archipelago to assert its right to freedom of navigation in the area.

China has been steadily escalating its military activities in the area. Beijing has deployed HQ-9 surface-to-air missiles and J-11B jet fighters in the disputed Paracel Islands since 2016. Those islands are about 500 miles north of the Spratlys in the South China Sea.

Beijing also has established a new Southern Theater Command to oversee Chinese forces responsible for the South China Sea.

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A satellite image shows more than 40 Chinese naval ships, including the country's first aircraft carrier, sailing in formation in the South China Sea, just south of Hainan, on April 1.PHOTO: PLANET LABS INC.

Recent satellite images from Planet Labs Inc. showed about 40 Chinese naval vessels, including submarines and the aircraft carrier Liaoning, sailing in formation in the South China Sea near Hainan in an unusually large show of force.

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The drills took place from March 24 to April 5 off the coast of southern Guangdong province, then moved off the east coast of Hainan, where they will continue until April 11, according to notices from China’s maritime safety administration.

“The goal is to inspect and increase the troops’ training level, and enhance their capacity to win a victory,” Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang said this month. “It’s not aimed at any particular country or target.”

Enhancing the Chinese military’s capacity for U.S.-style joint combat operations—involving all the armed services—is one of the main goals of a four-year military-restructuring plan begun by Xi Jinping, China’s president and military chief, in 2016.

Analysts said the exercises appear to be designed to practice joint operations involving China’s South Sea Fleet, based in Guangdong, and the Liaoning carrier group, based in China’s northeast, as well as air, missile and other forces.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-...ipment-on-spratly-islands-u-s-says-1523266320
 
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Any article with the author Alex Lockie should be immediately dismissed ... so your answer is yes.

How about the Wall Street Journal report I also posted?... Should that also be dismissed?

Thank you for your guidance ,
 
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How about the Wall Street Journal report I also posted?... Should that also be dismissed?

Thank you for you guidance ,
Sorry I didn't read the article in its entirety. But I have read enough of Alex Lockie's articles on BI to judge the content is extremely low grade. The WSJ article looks fine ... just beware of any clickbait articles by Alex Lockie.
 
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Sorry I didn't read the article in its entirety. But I have read enough of Alex Lockie's articles on BI to judge the content is extremely low grade. The WSJ article looks fine ... just beware of any clickbait articles by Alex Lockie.

I just added the link to the Wall Street Journal... I also have other sources.
 
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Sorry I didn't read the article in its entirety. But I have read enough of Alex Lockie's articles on BI to judge the content is extremely low grade. The WSJ article looks fine ... just beware of any clickbait articles by Alex Lockie.

Here is another source from CNBC... It's all; very mainstream... Not the alleged jamming ... That still is classified or leaked... But the installation of jamming equipment..

China quietly installed missile systems on strategic Spratly Islands in hotly contested South China Sea
PUBLISHED WED, MAY 2 2018 4:39 PM EDT
UPDATED THU, JAN 30 2020 2:41 PM EST

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  • China has installed anti-ship cruise missiles and surface-to-air missile systems on three of its fortified outposts in the South China Sea, sources tell CNBC.
  • By all accounts, the new coastal defense systems are a significant addition to Beijing's military portfolio in one of the most contested regions in the world.
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A PLA Navy fleet including the aircraft carrier Liaoning, submarines, vessels and fighter jets take part in a review in the South China Sea on April 12, 2018.
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WASHINGTON — China has quietly installed anti-ship cruise missiles and surface-to-air missile systems on three of its fortified outposts west of the Philippines in the South China Sea, a move that allows Beijing to further project its power in the hotly disputed waters, according to sources with direct knowledge of U.S. intelligence reports.

Intelligence assessments say the missile platforms were moved to the outposts in the Spratly Islands within the past 30 days, according to sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The placement of the defensive weapons also comes on the heels of China's recent South China Sea installation of military jamming equipment, which disrupts communications and radar systems. By all accounts, the new coastal defense systems represent a significant addition to Beijing's military portfolio in one of the most contested regions in the world.

The United States has remained neutral – but expressed concern – about the overlapping sovereignty claims to the Spratlys.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/chi...ms-on-spratly-islands-in-south-china-sea.html
 
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This is a case of ill-informed journalism actually - a Pakistani anchor picked on a dubious and unreliable account and transformed into a story for national consumption. Do not assume that Pakistani anchors get everything right - even some of the most well-known do not. They mainly care about ratings.

Yes, China have installed fixed jamming systems in its military bases in SCS but this is not a unique development (multiple military bases around the world have similar arrangements). Implied effectiveness of such jamming systems, is completely overblown and thoroughly debunked by experts of the field.

The anchor has no idea about capabilities of EA-18G Growler - one of the least discussed and explained aircraft out there, and for good reason. Should the situation call for it, this aircraft can easily take care of those fixed jamming systems. And multiple aircraft would be involved. Airborne jamming platforms have advantage over fixed jamming platforms - China have also developed one. However, USA have fielded multiple platforms by now.

USN conducted a very ambitious military drill in the South China Sea in this year; this was not a casual show of force. Those fixed jamming systems failed to do anything, right?

Anybody who is taking American military might for granted in conventional warfare spectrum, is in for a rude awakening. Our nationalism should not blind us.


The opposite is true. US have done much more provocations in this year.

However, this is a region where US does not have a legitimate claim or stake.
Sir, I disagree to the last part. That’s wrong.
The US certainly has claim and stake in the region. She eventually deploys 2/3 of naval assets to the western Pacific to make the stand. The troops that are withdrawn from Germany will most likely be deployed to this region too. We are talking on the most important sea lanes in the world that will become more important in the future because of growing economic strength of ASEAN and other.
We can’t let chinese to control the seas.
 
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Hello,

Is this also an idiotic report by the Wall Street Journal?

China Installed Military Jamming Equipment on Spratly Islands, U.S. Says
Disclosure comes as Chinese military conducts what U.S. officials describe as its largest military exercise to date in South China Sea
BN-YD846_USCHIN_P_20180408220335.jpg

Jamming equipment located on Mischief Reef in the South China Sea in a satellite photo taken by DigitalGlobe, a commercial space imagery firm. The photo was commissioned by the U.S. military, which added the color inset showing the type of equipment installed on the outpost in the Spratly Islands.PHOTO: DIGITALGLOBE

By


Michael R. Gordon in Washington and

Jeremy Page in Beijing

April 9, 2018 5:32 am ET
China has installed equipment on two of its fortified outposts in the Spratly Islands capable of jamming communications and radar systems, a significant step in its creeping militarization of the South China Sea, U.S. officials say.

The move strengthens China’s ability to assert its extensive territorial claims and hinder U.S. military operations in a contested region that includes some of the world’s busiest shipping routes.

The disclosure comes as the Chinese military is conducting what U.S. officials describe as its largest military exercise to date in the South China Sea, maneuvers that include China’s first aircraft carrier as well as air force and ground units.

A U.S. Defense Department official, describing the finding, said: “China has deployed military jamming equipment to its Spratly Island outposts.”

The U.S. assessment is supported by a photo taken last month by the commercial satellite company DigitalGlobe and provided to The Wall Street Journal. It shows a suspected jammer system with its antenna extended on Mischief Reef, one of seven Spratly outcrops where China has built fortified artificial islands since 2014, moving sand onto rocks and reefs and paving them over with concrete.

ADVERTISEMENT
China’s Defense Ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.

BN-XS009_fallba_4U_20180301162426.png

Beijing claims “indisputable” sovereignty over all South China Sea islands and their adjacent waters and demarcates its claims with a U-shaped line stretching from the Chinese coast almost as far south as Malaysia.

China says its island-building is for defensive purposes only, but the activity has stirred fears that it could use the outposts to enforce territorial claims that overlap with those of Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam, as well as the Philippines, which is a U.S. treaty ally. In the last year or so, China has tried to smooth relations with other claimants while continuing work on the islands.

Three of its outposts in the Spratlys—Fiery Cross Reef, Mischief Reef and Subi Reef—now feature 10,000-foot runways, hangars for fighter planes, ammunition bunkers, barracks and deep-water piers for ships.

ADVERTISEMENT
While Chinese military personnel are at the Spratly outposts and Chinese ships dock there, China has yet to station ground units or fighter planes on the artificial islands, U.S. officials say. Nor have surface-to-air missiles or antiship cruise missiles been deployed in the Spratlys, though spots to install such weapons have been prepared, U.S. officials said.

But China’s ability to quickly shift military assets to the outposts is a serious concern for the Pentagon since it could enable China to control vital trade routes, exclude other claimants from disputed areas and interfere with the U.S. military’s plans to defend Taiwan.

“China has built a massive infrastructure specifically—and solely—to support advanced military capabilities that can deploy to the bases on short notice,” Adm. Harry Harris, the head of the U.S. Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee last month.

According to U.S. intelligence, the new jamming equipment was deployed within the past 90 days on Fiery Cross Reef and Mischief Reef.

ADVERTISEMENT
“While China has maintained that the construction of the islands is to ensure safety at sea, navigation assistance, search and rescue, fisheries protection and other nonmilitary functions, electronic-jamming equipment is only for military use,” the U.S. Defense Department official said.

The U.S. regards most of the South China Sea as international waters and has sent ships through the Spratly archipelago to assert its right to freedom of navigation in the area.

China has been steadily escalating its military activities in the area. Beijing has deployed HQ-9 surface-to-air missiles and J-11B jet fighters in the disputed Paracel Islands since 2016. Those islands are about 500 miles north of the Spratlys in the South China Sea.

Beijing also has established a new Southern Theater Command to oversee Chinese forces responsible for the South China Sea.

BN-YD730_USCHIN_P_20180406212214.jpg

A satellite image shows more than 40 Chinese naval ships, including the country's first aircraft carrier, sailing in formation in the South China Sea, just south of Hainan, on April 1.PHOTO: PLANET LABS INC.

Recent satellite images from Planet Labs Inc. showed about 40 Chinese naval vessels, including submarines and the aircraft carrier Liaoning, sailing in formation in the South China Sea near Hainan in an unusually large show of force.

ADVERTISEMENT
The drills took place from March 24 to April 5 off the coast of southern Guangdong province, then moved off the east coast of Hainan, where they will continue until April 11, according to notices from China’s maritime safety administration.

“The goal is to inspect and increase the troops’ training level, and enhance their capacity to win a victory,” Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang said this month. “It’s not aimed at any particular country or target.”

Enhancing the Chinese military’s capacity for U.S.-style joint combat operations—involving all the armed services—is one of the main goals of a four-year military-restructuring plan begun by Xi Jinping, China’s president and military chief, in 2016.

Analysts said the exercises appear to be designed to practice joint operations involving China’s South Sea Fleet, based in Guangdong, and the Liaoning carrier group, based in China’s northeast, as well as air, missile and other forces.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-...ipment-on-spratly-islands-u-s-says-1523266320

Hi,

It is just like before the Eid sacrifice you fatten up the Goat & make it look so important.

You kids are just desperately begging to see if someone can take down the US---.

You kids really are clueless what the US can do---.

When you see american magazine writing these types of articles against the opponent---it is time that you start to pray hard for that opponents safety and wel-being---.
 
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Hi,

It is just like before the Eid sacrifice you fatten up the Goat & make it look so important.

You kids are just desperately begging to see if someone can take down the US---.

You kids really are clueless what the US can do---.

When you see american magazine writing these types of articles against the opponent---it is time that you start to pray hard for that opponents safety and wel-being---.

Well this kiddo sure has illusions of the ragtag Afghan Taliban giving the Americans a run for for their money...
 
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The Afghan Taliban gave them a run for their money...

Hi,

2 million dead afghans---5 million + wounded---everything destroyed in the nation---. 1/2 the nation homeless---no education---no hospitals---.

Americans got so tired of killing the afghans---there was no thrill left in further murders of afghans--.

Pakistani boy---stop building your Palaces over the dead bodies of afghans---
 
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my rational point to this video,why US stop its continuous provocative military actions in the South China Sea suddenly? I don't see any other reason but the US power is exposed after this attack.
These jamming actions by the chinese military are not new to the US armed forces. Silly to believe the US will withdraw because of that. They will develop countermeasure and return to the places. Jamming, countermeasures and counter countermeasures were extensive deployed and tested during the air war over Vietnam in the 1960s, 1970s. The B52 bomber fleets when attacking Vietnamese targets were accompanied by a vast fleet of jamming aircrafts. Also, Vietnamese Air defence deployed jamming countermeasures when firing missiles.


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Hi,

2 million dead afghans---5 million + wounded---everything destroyed in the nation---. 1/2 the nation homeless---no education---no hospitals---.

Americans got so tired of killing the afghans---there was no thrill left in further murders of afghans--.

Pakistani boy---stop building your Palaces over the dead bodies of afghans---

Oh gosh darn it... How about the Vietcong? Them Americans sure got tired of killing them gook rice farmers and got bored then left ...

Too much Amreeky winning for me to handle, babaji.
 
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Sir, I disagree to the last part. That’s wrong.
The US certainly has claim and stake in the region. She eventually deploys 2/3 of naval assets to the western Pacific to make the stand. The troops that are withdrawn from Germany will most likely be deployed to this region too. We are talking on the most important sea lanes in the world that will become more important in the future because of growing economic strength of ASEAN and other.
We can’t let chinese to control the seas.

US doesn’t belong to that region it has no territory in that region, is what @LeGenD is trying to say. They are interfering in the affairs of local nations. It can deploy its whole army but it doesn’t belong their and neither it’s people.
 
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US doesn’t belong to that region it has no territory in that region, is what @LeGenD is trying to say. They are interfering in the affairs of local nations. It can deploy its whole army but it doesn’t belong their and neither it’s people.
Who determines the US does not belong to East Asia? The US has Guam, Midway, Hawaii. As such they are part of Asia.
Ok if the chinese are not aggressive I would support the US to stay out of the region.
But thing stays as it is.
The US military presence is welcomed to maintain the balance of power.
 
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