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Turkey should let IS destroy PKK safe havens and protected space for retreat. Then Turkey should form an international force to fight IS. I would suggest an all Sunni force from these countries - Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Egypt with 10k soldiers each. With air support from NATO and GCC this force should then exterminate IS. The salary for this peace keeping soldiers should be $2000/month with a death insurance of $100,000. It should be paid for by GCC countries.
The end game should be: the above force controlling the Sunni areas of Iraq and Syria, while Iran controls the Shia majority areas of Iraq and Syria (Latakia etc.). Then there should be elections in both Syria and Iraq for an inclusive govt. The peace keeping forces will stay in their respective areas as long as necessary.
Iraq and Syria are both sovereign Arab states. None of the locals will or do accept any foreign rule. Influence is inevitable but such a proposal is completely unrealistic. It is an internal affair of ME states. The GCC, possibly Turkey and the US and its allies will do the job in terms of air strikes if necessary. They already did so, minus Turkey. I doubt that anyone is willing to risk their soldiers in foreign lands. They will be seen as occupiers by all parties. Locals, ISIS and the Syrian/Iraqi governments alike.
US, Turkey, GCC no one has the appetite to loose their precious soldiers lives, meanwhile there is no boots on the ground. Someone has to put these rabid stray dogs out of their misery, but no one is coming forward. If the IS gets entrenched, the biggest country under threat will be first Jordan and then KSA. IS is no laughing matter for your country bro.
2000 a month, that's higher then soldiers get in Western Europe. Btw some strange idea you came up with this time.
Mate, your idea is good on paper but you do not know the psyche of Arabs. Even if for instance Egypt proposed to deploy troops to either Syria or Iraq the governments would be against it due to pride. Locals are fiercely independent in most Arab countries. ISIS are Khawarij. "No on is coming forward". The US and the GCC states have just bombed them well over 300 times in both Syria and Iraq. Anyway bombing campaigns are not going to remove them. What is needed is to look at the causes for their appearance and local support in the first place which is a long story that involves failed rulers in Iraq and Syria, failed policies, sectarianism, rivalry, distrust, political vacuum, the silence of the international community to the ongoing mass-murder committed by the Al-Assad terror regime and thus the creation of ISIS, the growing radicalism among the locals due to those prolonged conflicts and a lot of other issues that are too many to mention here.
Had the regional powers and the international community acted much, much sooner in Syria (ISIS and Al-Nusra and other such groups first emerged in Syria well over 1 year INTO the conflict) this would not have happened. The Americans should never have left Iraq this early either but Al-Maliki (a classified fool sadly) wanted them goon under Iranian pressure. Likewise the Americans who entered Iraq in 2003 should never have disbanded the entire state apparatus nor banned all people related to the former regime from working for the state (police, army etc.). Overnight hundreds of thousands men lost their jobs. Then came the Shia dominated politics that were sectarian by nature and they wanted revenge for years of discrimination.
ISIS is not going to spread to either Jordan or KSA. Mark my words. The most that can happen will be sporadic suicide attacks, bombings, assassinations etc. just like with Al-Qaeda during the early and mid 2000's before they were defeated.
That is why I said Erdogan will rather see Kurds defeated by IS. But eventually IS will move in Turkey. Their ideology will spread sooner or later.
Professional soldiers will not risk their life for nothing, its cheaper than bringing in blackwater for example. My idea is less strange than the rise of IS and now holding ground in good parts of Iraq and Syria, despite the air strikes and them eventually taking over Jordan, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar. Left unchecked, there is no telling what IS will do next. It is actually kind of fun to watch IS making progress against all odds. You gotta give them credit for their tenacity.
Professional soldiers will not risk their life for nothing, its cheaper than bringing in blackwater for example. My idea is less strange than the rise of IS and now holding ground in good parts of Iraq and Syria, despite the air strikes and them eventually taking over Jordan, KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar. Left unchecked, there is no telling what IS will do next. It is actually kind of fun to watch IS making progress against all odds. You gotta give them credit for their tenacity.
Why you don't go live in your ally hideout?
the thing is, IS is not going to be a mere 'go in, kill them all, leave' mission for any country. combating such terrorism will have long term complications if not dealt properly since the start. their leadership must be killed consequently, their ideology must be combated, the reason must be killed. by merely bombing them, pumping them full with lead will change nothing at all. New brainwashed cannon fodder can be found easily, i guess. Therefore any country that will place boots on the ground must be committed for many years. difference between US and regional countries is that the US is on the other side of the world. they dont care, they bomb, they destroy, they torture, they do whatever they please without any serious repercussion against their homeland. Turkey and Arab countries dont have this privilege. entering war with ISIS will do harm to our countries and it will please countries who hold grudges against us. It's a complex situation.US, Turkey, GCC no one has the appetite to loose their precious soldiers lives, meanwhile there is no boots on the ground. Someone has to put these rabid stray dogs out of their misery, but no one is coming forward. If the IS gets entrenched, the countries under biggest threat will be first Jordan and then KSA. IS is no laughing matter for your country bro.
I hope IS does not spread to any more countries, but future is unpredictable. IS was loosing support with the public, but with US-NATO-GCC bombing campaign, they are gaining back public support in Sunni areas of Iraq and Syria. KSA training a new moderate force to take on IS in Syria is still a pipe dream. By the time its ready, IS will have consolidated its position. If IS becomes a permanent state and achieve some success in governance, it will definitely destabilize GCC states. The US knows the danger, that is why they acted fast, but they will not put boots on the ground, even if some GCC states fell to IS.
Training forces takes time whether locals or foreigners, why foreigners when the local manpower is sufficient ? if you send foreigners without training they will die as well.
That's why they're ( US, NATO and several other generals who participated in the meeting as seen in a vid ) planning to re-train, re-structure the army and form the national guard which will be locals guarding their area, Australia is about to begin with it, it takes time. It makes sense that ISIS advances in Iraq, the amount of corruption and incapability from commanders to parliament leaders causes it. Maliki insists on using the fake bomb detector to hide his failure, the army commanders mass recruit soldiers and send them to their death without training and a lot of other stuff too much to name.