So many attacks why is there no retaliation

[Khan_patriot]

No other country would tolerate a militancy that has lasted 20 years.

Pakistan has no border security or "homeland" style intelligence. It's a free for all.

Militancies tend to last quite long, and tend to be quite bloody, any person even remotely educated on the subject would know that.
Pakistan does have border security as well as a relatively efficient intelligence network and that's the reason most pdf users (who are from urban/ semi urban Pakistan) have the liberty to make baseless claims and hate on the Army instead of worrying about the TTP or whoever from barging into their homes rn.

 

[Goenitz]

Also, many past Kashmiri activists got hunted down.. at 16:12

 

[mudas777]

When elections are postponed all these attacks will stop all of a sudden miraculously. All these games and crap is played by the Islamic republic brave army which is only good for to kidnap, torture and kill who are paying their wages.
I no longer believe a single word these tainted generals says as when they can burn down their own buildings and hand over Pakistani nationals for dollars to others nothing good should be expected of them.

 

[GriffinsRule]

This week we have witnessed several deadly attacks on the armed forces. Dozens of militery personal have been murdered, from a bloody hidouse raid at Mianwali air base, to a bomb attack in Gawadar and sniper fire in other areas. For 20 years we have witnessed never ending attacks, death and destruction of Pakistan, its people and army.
Families weeping to bury thier sons and family members was a regular theme.
The nation has sophisticated weapons, missiles, drones and fighter jets, why are they not being deployed? Why is there no retaliation? We only see such weapons on display during parades. Nations who saw similar levels of terrorism have began to see some stability and an improvement in security, yet Pakistan is finding itself embroiled in never ending attacks.
Under Bajwa weekly attacks by rag tag sandal wearing militias across Balochestan became a weekly occurrence. The same is happening under Munir, incompetence resulting in Pak soldiers losing thier life and militant attacks becoming more daring and sophisticated. With no response, it is giving more confidence to the various terrorists to continue thier war on Pakistan.

Because they can't pin it on PTI and Imran Khan

 

[fatman17]

This week we have witnessed several deadly attacks on the armed forces. Dozens of militery personal have been murdered, from a bloody hidouse raid at Mianwali air base, to a bomb attack in Gawadar and sniper fire in other areas. For 20 years we have witnessed never ending attacks, death and destruction of Pakistan, its people and army.
Families weeping to bury thier sons and family members was a regular theme.
The nation has sophisticated weapons, missiles, drones and fighter jets, why are they not being deployed? Why is there no retaliation? We only see such weapons on display during parades. Nations who saw similar levels of terrorism have began to see some stability and an improvement in security, yet Pakistan is finding itself embroiled in never ending attacks.
Under Bajwa weekly attacks by rag tag sandal wearing militias across Balochestan became a weekly occurrence. The same is happening under Munir, incompetence resulting in Pak soldiers losing thier life and militant attacks becoming more daring and sophisticated. With no response, it is giving more confidence to the various terrorists to continue thier war on Pakistan.

Because the high command priorities are some where else!

We are dealing with terrorism, we don't have a target as a enemy military with installations, or tanks or jets that we have to hit

Our military is set up to take on a conventional force

What we have is donkeys in the form of Afghans and some baloch who are terrorists, one minute they act like poor locals, next they will attack and kill

Until they attack and kill, they will be nothing but poor locals and any action instigates million of other dumb fcuk locals.

The Iranians don't have this problem with Afghans, so they can kick out 5 million Afghans and their will be next to no consequences because their is no local population for the Afghans to hide amongst or be protected, sheltered or supplied



The Iranians have a similar problem to us in the baloch areas for the same reason

Traditionally Pakistan has been very sensitive to not try and instigate our own population and people or mass targets everyone because some Afghans are human scum


But I think now they don't have much of a option and have to go mich harder against our enemies

"Our military is set up to take on a conventional force"

Gen Tariq Khan would not agree with you.

 

[Jango]

1- There are actions and retaliatory strikes taking place every single day, we just don't hear about each of them on the news.

2- We as a nation, and as a state, need to first actually acknowledge that we are in a state of war and have an enemy knocking at our door. We are back in the 2010's right now, and at the moment, all of our think tanks are in a state of denial, nothing else.

Once we actually accept that we have a situation on our hands, we can then formulate something and take action.

It's like you have cancer but refuse to believe you have it. How the heck are you then gonna start treatment?

 

[313ghazi]

All the yahoos criticising the Army for inaction need to realise no COIN campaign (particularly the kintetic phase) can be waged without having the public behind their backs (which the Army has generally lost for debatable reasons) . If tomorrow the Army decides to gun in guns blazing it will be the very assholes accusing the Army of inaction who will be spewing shit and crying crocodile tears about human rights, military heavy handedness, rights of the terrorists etc and put an American spin on everything and somehow manage to bring IK into the mix. The Army is doing what's the best at this time I.e well measured targeted operation, this is the time for the scalpel and not the sledgehammer. All those keyboard tactician who think they know better are welcome to go and try their hand at combat, I am sure everyone knows where the hot zones are.

What excuses do you have for the last 19 years of failures?

 

[One_Nation]

"Our military is set up to take on a conventional force"

Gen Tariq Khan would not agree with you.

All militaries are meant for conventional warfare. Even Americans failed in non-conventional wars in Iraq and A'stan.

If a Pakistani general believes otherwise then it is based on the same logic that military can run judiciary, parliament and government departments. They have failed in the same way everywhere.

 

[TheSolution]

We are dealing with terrorism, we don't have a target as a enemy military with installations, or tanks or jets that we have to hit

Our military is set up to take on a conventional force

What we have is donkeys in the form of Afghans and some baloch who are terrorists, one minute they act like poor locals, next they will attack and kill

Until they attack and kill, they will be nothing but poor locals and any action instigates million of other dumb fcuk locals.

The Iranians don't have this problem with Afghans, so they can kick out 5 million Afghans and their will be next to no consequences because their is no local population for the Afghans to hide amongst or be protected, sheltered or supplied



The Iranians have a similar problem to us in the baloch areas for the same reason

Traditionally Pakistan has been very sensitive to not try and instigate our own population and people or mass targets everyone because some Afghans are human scum


But I think now they don't have much of a option and have to go mich harder against our enemies

Turks also face insurgency, still heavy retaliation across the border after identifying targets to make the cost too high for insurgent groups

When you are dealing with a namak haram kind there are plenty of targets to hurt them if you look hard enough, ammo storage facilties, transportation vehicles, etc...

You need to put a high price on their attacks that even if they can attack you back, they will think 2, 3 times before initiating it because of what they could lose. Offense is the best defence, don't let yourself be a walk over and put them on the backfoot.

 

[fatman17]

1- There are actions and retaliatory strikes taking place every single day, we just don't hear about each of them on the news.

2- We as a nation, and as a state, need to first actually acknowledge that we are in a state of war and have an enemy knocking at our door. We are back in the 2010's right now, and at the moment, all of our think tanks are in a state of denial, nothing else.

Once we actually accept that we have a situation on our hands, we can then formulate something and take action.

It's like you have cancer but refuse to believe you have it. How the heck are you then gonna start treatment?

"There are actions and retaliatory strikes taking place every single day, we just don't hear about each of them on the news."
We need a high profile COIN campaign in Balochistan. Taking action with kid gloves is not going to do the job. A Rah-e-Nigat type 3 pronged land, air and Media attack is required if one wants results and the backing of the people. Taking action here and there without the people knowing what is going on is detrimental to the morale of the military as well as the people especially these days where everything negative is rightly or wrongly being blamed on the mil-establishment. The High Command is making Sweeping statements but has nothing to show for it. If it thinks that Uncle USA will overtly support them then they are living in fool's paradise!!!

 

[Enigma SIG]

All those keyboard tactician who think they know better are welcome to go and try their hand at combat, I am sure everyone knows where the hot zones are.

We're asking the guys who we pay through our taxes to do their fcvking job and better; and the best argument we get in return is gaslighting the same people asking for accountability. This country's logic is FUBARED.

2- We as a nation, and as a state, need to first actually acknowledge that we are in a state of war and have an enemy knocking at our door. We are back in the 2010's right now, and at the moment, all of our think tanks are in a state of denial, nothing else.

Sure, i'll wave the flag when GHQ acts like it is in a state of war. Against terrorists. Not against political parties.
Abhi to lg raha hai Tehran/Kabul ka purana kanjar khana sb Pakistan me import hogia hai.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Silence before the storm

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

well security agency and intelligence priority is only Imran Khan and his party.

this lot of generals in top command (core commanders & generals) are perhaps the worst we got it after 1971

 

[ziaulislam]

This week we have witnessed several deadly attacks on the armed forces. Dozens of militery personal have been murdered, from a bloody hidouse raid at Mianwali air base, to a bomb attack in Gawadar and sniper fire in other areas. For 20 years we have witnessed never ending attacks, death and destruction of Pakistan, its people and army.
Families weeping to bury thier sons and family members was a regular theme.
The nation has sophisticated weapons, missiles, drones and fighter jets, why are they not being deployed? Why is there no retaliation? We only see such weapons on display during parades. Nations who saw similar levels of terrorism have began to see some stability and an improvement in security, yet Pakistan is finding itself embroiled in never ending attacks.
Under Bajwa weekly attacks by rag tag sandal wearing militias across Balochestan became a weekly occurrence. The same is happening under Munir, incompetence resulting in Pak soldiers losing thier life and militant attacks becoming more daring and sophisticated. With no response, it is giving more confidence to the various terrorists to continue thier war on Pakistan.

It's part of the game

 

[Goritoes]

Pakistan is running around like a headless chicken, with no set policy or vision for future, Army is doing real state and kheti bari while Politicians are turned into **** stars and put in jail, looters are welcome, still licking Afghan Taliban's feet, Kashmir issue is compromised and dusted, Fauji's are just trying their best to survive long enough to make enough money to send their kids to schools and colleges in UK/USA so later on after retirement they can move there as well, Pakistan has no future for as long as Army is controlling the civil Govt, and no offense but Pakistan Army is full of retarded Generals, they are not even good military dictators.