SCO expands, meaning SAARC may become obsolete soon

[Gufi]

Pakistan and India have been admitted to SCO. This is where China is the center and everyone revolves around it. Russia, India, Pakistan, and other CARs are satellites of different sizes and colors.

Quiete possibe that now BDesh and Nepal too would want to become members of SCO.

What does this means for India lead SAARC?

It may become obsolete now.

What are your thoughts?

There has been a clear movement of Pakistani policy away from the region you have mentioned. Rather then focus on a region where trade and peace are not constant, Pakistan with the help of China, is moving towards Central Asia as well as towards countries such as Turkey and with an eye on increasing trade with Europe.
To concentrate on areas where there has been no real break through would be foolishness to say the least, rather to move towards areas more accepting and better suited to long term trade are more beneficial in the long term. Rather then try to work as through an organisation there needs to be a move towards making stable relations before any other steps are taken, and Pakistan has not benefited at all through Saarc and thus it is an useless organisation for us.
Also SCO has become a real player in world economics, and Indian addition will add more clout to it. With China and India growing rapidly, and with Russian and Central Asia's markets opened the SCO will become a very important organisation in times to come.

 

[extra terrestrial]

I think it's quite silly to compare BBIN with SAARC as many members have been doing. BBIN is not a regional grouping, it's just a motor vehicle agreement among four countries to facilitate the regional connectivity, there have been similar agreements like the BCIM (Bangladesh, China, India, Myanmar) corridor. While SAARC is a full fledged regional forum that is comparable with ASEAN or EU (though not as active).

On topic: even if SCO expands, SAARC will have its own justification as a regional organization. If the issues, which are the main reasons for the ineffectiveness of SAARC, are not sorted out, chances are that the ineffectiveness will most possibly spill over to SCO. On the other hand, if SCO succeeds to solve those issues as many are claiming, it will also contribute to SAARC becoming an effective regional organization.

 

[Nicky G]

SSARC was always a lost cause, all that is needed is India to have extended influence in the region.

SCO is a grand experiment in delusion of countering NATO, a military alliance it will never be, especially with India now in it.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Good point. BBIN effectiveness compared to SCO will remain second rate though. Me thinks.

There is no point stressing on the point, BBIN's sole concern as it seems in to facilitate transport and commerce in SE asian countries, while SCO has a bigger role to play in global arena.

 

[ganesh177]

Saarc kind of become useless lately due to tussle between india and pakistan. Saarc was unable to solve any issues between 2 nations and hence stalled any development policies for the region.
If SCO fails to solve the regional issues and push the economic policies in the region then it will also become a useless organisation like saarc.
Including india and pakistan into SCO is a kind of bad news for SCO, its likely to be doomed now.
Hence saarc will at least remain relevant for south asia.

 

[xyxmt]

SAARC is obsolete as it is, an impotent organization and Pakistan has practically made an exit from it.

 

[PatriotLover]

Saarc kind of become useless lately due to tussle between india and pakistan. Saarc was unable to solve any issues between 2 nations and hence stalled any development policies for the region.
If SCO fails to solve the regional issues and push the economic policies in the region then it will also become a useless organisation like saarc.
Including india and pakistan into SCO is a kind of bad news for SCO, its likely to be doomed now.
Hence saarc will at least remain relevant for south asia.

And I fear that the same tassle will destroy SCO too. It will becorm SARC no. 2.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

SAARC or SCO - the success of these entities as economic blocs requires a degree of India-Pakistan normalization that currently appears out of reach.

With the SCO, at best you'll see cooperation in, and benefits from, specific projects such as the TAPI because of the influence of Russia and China in arranging international funding and acting as guarantors against politically motivated supply stoppages.

 

[Hulk]

Andhohn main kaana Raja.

For US, more important than Pakistan because nothing can be achieved by talking to them.

 

[kez]

Good point. BBIN effectiveness compared to SCO will remain second rate though. Me thinks.


Off course.



you think SAARC is south Asian version of OIC (Oh I see)

Extremely stupid comparison.

BBIN or SAARC has nothing to do with SCO and SCO has nothing to do with BBIN or SAARC.

Its like comparing BBIN to CENTO. The two have no overlapping goals.


SAARC goal is to have enhanced regional connectivity and regional trade - South Asian. How the hell is this related to SCO which spans Russia and China?

And SAARC has already been defacto replaced by BBIN and BIMSTEC. All of the South Asian countries barring Pakistan are members of these groupings which has been made by India because including Pakistan in SAARC was a mistake.

May be it will, may be it won't. It is too early to tell what the impact on SAARC will be due to SCO expansion.

 

[opruh]

In SCO, China and Russia are the big boys not India, poor India.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

SAARC has become obsolete and should be discontinued.
SCO will eventually become the biggest group in Asia.

 

[kez]

SAARC has become obsolete and should be discontinued.
SCO will eventually become the biggest group in Asia.

SAARC has already been superceeded by BBIN and BIMSTEC as the main South Asian grouping.


It serves a role that no other grouping can - that of interconnecting South Asia and as a platform for South Asians(minus Pakistan) to decide where they wish to take the region.

SCO is for a different purpose entirely. The two are neither related nor can they replace each other.

 

[Shamain]

SAARC has own needs we s.asians are here please have some time to chit chat each other also its good

Jab ap koi bhi org join kartay hain tau uska kharcha bhi hota hai.
Jab saarc meet hoti hai tsu PM aur envoy kee travel and hotel stay costs hoti hain, ur hamaray politicians kitna kharcha kartay hain ismay hamain bhi pata ha. Phir us envoy may job log hain, aur consultants unki fee/salariee/pays bhi hoti hain. Yeh sab tax payer ki jai say jata hai.
Jab itna lakhon millions ka kharcha hai aur useless saarc kuch business nahi day rahi tau discontinue honi chaheay.

Chit chat aur chai shai kay peechay itnay paisay nee kharch hosaktay. Aur apka itna dik krta hai agar chit chat ka, tau aap apnay mohallay kay indian,pakistani,sri lankan, bengali doston ko har hafta chai pay bula leea karain aur us ko saarc ka naam day dain.

Kabhi pdf kay logon ko bhi invite kar lena, aik din pehlay invite karna hum log apni pasand kay snacks kay naam bata dain gay.

 

[FaujHistorian]

that of interconnecting South Asia and as a platform for South Asians(minus Pakistan) to decide where they wish to take the region.

South Asia minus Pakistan is the biggest joke about the geography.

For US, more important than Pakistan because nothing can be achieved by talking to them.

Oh Bhai jaan

Why on earth you drag US? or you just got emotional and capitalized us.

hahahah