Royal Navy sends its mightiest ship to take on the Iranian

[Indus Falcon]

That's what I am saying, they did not attack because it could lead to war and a lot more damage for both sides than necessary.

Truth is that the Brits got scared, the Iranians were exactly what their mothers had warned them about!

 

[888jamie888]

Thats ok, when you die, tell God the exact same thing "I wasn't religious, so whatever". In a life that will never end, it will be very sad to see you in trouble.

LOL, trying to impose your religion on me eh? You think your beliefs are superior to mine??
You are not unlike my ancestors who you so openly despise. The British who imposed the values of Christianity. Ever think about that?

 

[Indus Falcon]

LOL, trying to impose your religion on me eh? You think your beliefs are superior to mine??
You are not unlike my ancestors who you so openly despise. The British who imposed the values of Christianity. Ever think about that?

Yeah funny people trying to tell us that 1+1+1==== 1 Dude you guys were never good at maths were ya?

 

[888jamie888]

Yeah funny people trying to tell us that 1+1+1==== 1 Dude you guys were never good at maths were ya?

Lolwut. What??

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Truth is that the Brits got scared, the Iranians were exactly what their mothers had warned them about!

No one in the UK really think about Iran sorry.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Lolwut. What??

At the cost of derailing this thread:

The father (is a God) + The Son (is a God) + The Holy Ghost (is a God) = 1 God, not three Gods!

 

[Arian]

No one in the UK really think about Iran sorry.

We hope it is that way!

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

what are the airdefence capability on this ship?
how many missiles can it defend itself from?
but I have to say it looks like a very good ship.

 

[Indus Falcon]

GO Royal Navy,the most professional Navy in the world alongside the USN.

Hey Boris, here's something to make your day, your "most professional Navy in the world alongside the USN" :


Royal Navy spends £50bn on new fighter jets... but they can't even land on aircraft carriers
By Anthony Bond
Last updated at 3:44 PM on 15th January 2012

A new fighter plane which is to be used by the UK and U.S. military has a design flaw which prevents it from landing on aircraft carriers, it has emerged.

The flaw in the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) will come as a huge embarrassment to the Royal Navy which is expected to take delivery of 50 of the planes by 2020 at a cost of about £5 billion.

Leaked documents from the Pentagon have revealed that the arrestor hook of the JSF - which is used to stop the plane during landing - is too close to the wheels.

According to The Sunday Times, the Pentagon report reveals that eight simulated landings have failed and it says a 'significant redesign' of the aircraft is needed.

It says the future of the aircraft is at risk.

The Ministry of Defence (MOD) has refused to comment on the leaked report but a spokesmen told the newspaper that defence secretary Philip Hammond has discussed the issue with the U.S government.

The spokesman insisted that Britain 'remains committed to purchasing the carrier variant of the JSF.'

Arrestor cables are used to rapidly decelerate fighter jets as they land on aircraft carriers.
Talks: Defence secretary Philip Hammond has discussed the issue of the F-35C with his U.S counterpart Leon Panetta

Talks: Defence secretary Philip Hammond has discussed the issue of the F-35C with his U.S counterpart Leon Panetta

The cable catches onto a hook at the back of the aircraft which stops the plane from overshooting into the sea.

But it has emerged that on the F-35C - the new carrier variant of the JSF - the arrestor hook is just 7ft from the rear wheels of the jet resulting in the arrestor missing the hook.

On aircraft currently with the U.S navy, this distance is 18ft which means it has plenty of time to catch the cable.

The leaked report - called the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Concurrency Quick Look Review - now warns that there could be major consequences to the aircraft's structure because of the design flaw.

It goes on to warn that the entire F-35C programme may have to be scrapped if a redesign is to costly or results in too many technical issues.

The report also revealed a number of other areas of concern which included that it may be unable to fire British Asraam air-to-air missiles.

According to The Sunday Times, the report adds that there was a high likelihood of future failures which had not yet been identified.

The government was criticised when it scrapped the Royal Navy's Harrier aircraft in 2010.

The shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy, told the newspaper: 'An island nation like ours should be able to operate aeroplanes from an aircraft carrier. It's essential we know how long we will be without carrier strike capability.'


Royal Navy spends £50bn on new fighter jets that can't even land on aircraft carriers | Mail Online

 

[Indus Falcon]

what are the airdefence capability on this ship?
how many missiles can it defend itself from?
but I have to say it looks like a very good ship.

Type 45 Daring Class,


Key Data

Crew 190 (with space for 235)
Length 152.4m (overall)
Beam (At Waterline) 18m
Maximum Speed More than 27kt
Range More than 7,000nm at 18kt
Displacement 7,350t (full load)
Draught 7.4m


The UK Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyers are to replace the Type 42 destroyers, which have been in service since 1978. Six Type 45 destroyers have been contracted. The requirement was for 12 vessels of the class, but the UK Ministry of Defence announced in July 2004 this would be cut to eight.

This was further reduced in June 2008 to the six previously contracted. The destroyers are to enter service by 2014.
"The Type 45 is powered by two WR-21 advanced cycle gas turbine engines."

A full-scale engineering development and initial production (FSED/IP) contract has been placed on BAE Systems Marine as project prime contractor.

All ships are being assembled and launched at BAE's Scotstoun shipyard. VT Shipbuilding in Portsmouth is building the bow sections, masts and funnels for all six ships.

BAE Systems and VT Shipbuilding formed a joint venture, BVT Surface Fleet, for the design, manufacture and support of UK surface warships in July 2008. In January 2009, VT Group announced its intention to sell its holding in the BVT surface fleet joint venture to BAE Systems, following UK MoD approval.

In October 2009, BAE Systems acquired the VT Group's 45% stake and renamed the entity BAE Systems Surface Ships.

Production of the first-of-class ship, HMS Daring (D32), began in March 2003 and it was launched on 1 February 2006 at Scotstoun. It began first stage sea trials in July 2007 which concluded in August 2007. The five-week second stage sea trials commenced in April 2008, focusing on weapon systems, radar and endurance trials.

The vessel completed contractor's trials in September 2008. Daring was formally handed over to the UK Ministry of Defence in December 2008 and the vessel arrived at her home port of Portsmouth in January 2009 for further trials prior to commissioning in July 2009.

Construction of the second, HMS Dauntless (D33), began in August 2004 and it was launched on 23 January 2007. The vessel began sea trials in November 2008 and was commissioned in June 2010. The vessel entered service with the Royal Navy in November 2010.

First steel was cut for the third, HMS Diamond (D34), in February 2005. It was launched in November 2007 and commissioned in May 2011. HMS Dragon (D35) was laid in December 2005 and launched in November 2008.

After undergoing extensive sea trials in the Clyde River, HMS Dragon arrived in Portsmouth Naval Base and was formally handed over to the MOD in August 2011. HMS Defender (D36) was laid in July 2006 and launched in October 2009 while HMS Duncan (D37) was laid in January 2007 and launched in October 2010.

The UK withdrew from participation in the tri-national Project Horizon / common new-generation frigate (CNGF) programme for the UK, France and Italy and the project was terminated in October 1999.

The Type 45 programme is benefiting from work done on Project Horizon, for example the PAAMS weapon system and some of the internal architecture of the ship.

The destroyer's displacement is about 8,000t, the designed top speed greater than 27kt and the range of over 7,000nm.
Mission details

The main mission of the Type 45 anti-air warfare destroyer is to provide local area fleet defence, with long-range radar and wide area defence capability. The ship's combat systems also have the capability to control aircraft and coordinate the anti-air warfare operations of the task force.

The Type 45 destroyer is equipped with long-range weapon systems to intercept air threats including super-agile manoeuvring missiles with re-attack modes. The UK PAAMS will defend the ships from missiles approaching individually or in salvos and is capable of controlling a large number of airborne missiles simultaneously. The Type 45 could also accommodate cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk and anti-ballistic missiles if a requirement was identified in future.

The Type 45 destroyer will be able to operate a helicopter up to the size of a Royal Navy Merlin helicopter, but will initially operate with Lynx HMA 8 helicopters armed with Stingray torpedoes.
Command and control

BAE Systems Integrated System Technologies (Insyte) is supplying the combat management system (CMS) and fast ethernet data transfer system for the destroyers. The Type 45 CMS integrates the PAAMS missile system and control all sensors and weapons.

Thales Communications is leading the team, which includes Selex Communications, which provides the fully integrated communications system (FICS). Astrium (a joint venture of EADS and BAE Systems) has been awarded a contract to provide SCOT 3 satellite communications systems.

Raytheon Systems supplies the integrated navigation system, which includes electronic chart display and information systems (ECDIS), inertial navigation subsystems and sensors including Raytheon Pathfinder navigation radars. Raytheon Marine GmbH of Kiel is the major subcontractor. RSL is also supplying the identification friend or foe (IFF) systems.

Northrop Grumman (formerly Litton) Marine Systems with Rockwell Automation provides the platform management system. BAE Systems Insyte will provide the METOC (meteorological and oceanographic) system.
Principal anti-aircraft missile system (PAAMS)

The primary weapon system of the Type 45 destroyer is the principal anti-aircraft missile system (PAAMS). PAAMS is a tri-national programme involving France, Italy and the UK. The contract for series production was placed in November 2003.

The prime contractor is Europaams SAS, a joint venture company two-thirds owned by Eurosam (MBDA and Thales) and one-third by the UKAMS subsidiary of MBDA.

The missiles being developed for PAAMS are the Aster 15 and the Aster 30. The Type 45 will be able to carry up to 48 Aster 15 and Aster 30 missiles. The Aster missile carries an inertial computer with datalink, an active J-band Doppler radar seeker and 15kg warhead.

The speed of Aster 30 is Mach 4 and the range is more than 80km. The missile has manoeuvrability of up to 62g, achieved through the use of the EADS Aerospatiale PIF/PAF guidance system. Aster 15 has a speed of Mach 3, range of more than 30km and manoeuvrability of up to 50g.
"The UK Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyers are to replace the Type 42 destroyers."

While the French / Italian PAAMS uses the Empar G-band radar, while the UK PAAMS has the BAE Systems Insyte Sampson multifunction, dual-face active array radar operating at E/F bands.

Each face of the array carries 2,500 gallium arsenide transmit and receive modules, with an output of 25kW. BAE Systems has reconfigured Sampson to produce a near spherical design which retains the two arrays internally.

Modes of operation include long and medium-range search, surface search, high-speed horizon search and high-angle search and track. Sampson uses digital adaptive beamforming which makes it highly resistant to electronic countermeasures. The Sampson radar completed installation on the HMS Daring foremast in April 2007 in preparation for PAAMS integration in 2008.

In June 2011, BAE Systems was awarded a £46m contract to provide technical support and maintenance for the Sampson multifunction radars (MFR) aboard the six Type 45 destroyers.

PAAMS uses a DCN Sylver A50 vertical launcher with eight cells. The Type 45 will have six Sylver VLS. The command and control system will be supplied by UKAMS, although Thales Airsys will build some of the core elements.
Guns

The ships are fitted with the 114mm mk8 mod 1 medium-calibre gun system for shore bombardment and two 30mm guns. There is provision for the installation of two close-in weapons systems such as the Raytheon Phalanx.

BAE Systems have teamed with Radamec Defence Systems (now part of Ultra Electronics) to provide the electro-optical gunfire control system (EOGCS).
Sensors

Wide-area, long-range search is provided by the BAE Systems Insyte / Thales S1850M radar operating at D band, an enhanced version of the Thales Nederland (formerly Signaal) SMART-L. Raytheon Systems will supply the IFF (identification friend or foe) system.

Ultra Electronics (with EDO Corporation of the USA) has been selected to provide the Type 45's surface ship torpedo defence (SSTD) system which includes the MFS-7000 bow-mounted medium-frequency sonar, a development of the sonar supplied by EDO to the Brazilian Navy.

The system provides automatic warning of a torpedo attack and tactical advice on ship manoeuvres and the deployment of decoys to defeat the threat.
Aircraft landing capabilities

The Type 45 destroyer has a flight deck and hangar to support the operations of a single helicopter. The flight deck can accommodate either a Lynx HMA8 or Merlin EH101 HAS 1 helicopter armed with anti-ship missiles and anti-submarine torpedoes.
Countermeasures

Thales Sensors (formerly Racal Defence) supplies the Type 45's radar-band electronic support measures (RESM) system.
"In October 2009, BAE Systems acquired the VT Group's 45% stake and renamed the entity BAE Systems Surface Ships."

The RESM is developed from Racal's Outfit UAT but with new signal processing and emitter identification technology.

The vessels have the Royal Navy's Outfit DLH active naval offboard decoy system, which includes the Siren decoy, an expendable radiating decoy against radar guided missiles, from BAE Systems.

The destroyer will also be fitted with a Shaman communications-band electronic support measures (CESM) system.

The COTS (commercial-off-the-shelf) open architecture Shaman systems is being developed by BAE Systems C4ISR Networked Systems & Solutions (NS&S) for the Royal Navy surface vessels.
Propulsion and power

The Type 45 is powered by two WR-21 advanced cycle gas turbine engines with intercooler and recuperator (ICR) heat exchangers, which provide significant space and fuel savings.

The recuperator recovers energy from the exhaust gases to increase fuel efficiency. Each engine will provide 25MW.

The engines have been built by a team led by Rolls-Royce and Northrop Grumman. Alsthom Power Conversion provides other elements of the power and propulsion system, including the electric propulsion motors.

Type 45 Daring Class - Naval Technology

 

[SyedF]

By emitting foul gas from their behinds! This is one reason why they have so much bad breath!!

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And finally seeing the light of day, they were so impressed by the Iranians, they decided to go on holiday in Iran!

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1) Irrespective of whether they were in Iraqi territorial waters or Iranian territorial waters, they weren't supposed to be in either! But fact is that they were there, and got caught with their pants down, whether you like it or not!

2) "There may be a 1000 other thread on that" - Then you shouldn't have said in post#32 ""They could have blown you away. They just did not want to create a serious incident and cause loss of life." Could have, would have, maybe,....!!! After the death of thousands of people around the globe, because of your greed, spare us your jibber jabber nonsense and go howl and moan somewhere else!

3) Everything that you have said on this thread (including post#32) is BS, and reflects your subservient mentality!

4) "My grammar "- is that all could find to b***h and moan about? I'll fix my grammar when you show me the WMD's in Iraq!