Revenge of Amarnath Yatra Attack started

[sameerin]

i agree with you and your observation is true

Okay. Thanks for the info. The fact remains that neither Pakistan nor India will give the other side any part of Kashmir occupied by them. You guys even fought over a rock with some snow on it and which is uninhabitable. So, there is little or no chance of any plebiscite or concessions from either side (leaving aside China and accepting that the land owned by China is barren and useless). From what I gathered here, neither India nor Pakistan will declare any war with each other over Kashmir since both are nuclear powers. The Indians may perhaps just be correct by asserting that the status quo will remain for a long long time (and maybe indefinately) since both nations are nuclear armed. A few guys attacking civilians or soldiers isn't going to liberate Kashmir. You know that and so do I. Unless the international community imposes sanctions on India over Kashmir, there is little or no chance that any domestic rebellion will hold any weight. I read about alleged Indian atrocities in Kashmir but that doesn't seem to have had any weight on the international communities outlook on the issue. Annually the OIC releases a statement condemning the suppression of Muslims in Kashmir and the very next day they rush off to do trade with India taking 1000s of Indian workers and investors into their countries. The situation is just getting worse for the average Kashmir occupant in Indian administered Kashmir instead of getting better. A false hope is being projected onto a few thousand of its youth who are receiving arms (presumably from Pakistan?) and who really are just wasting their time and their lives. Am I reading the situation wrong ?

 

[jetray]

Revenge=fake encounters=false flag yatri atttack

India will never see peace. Days are not far when all these angry people will adopt ISIS idiology and may attack mainland India. Mumbai 2008 could become very common thing.



Be afraid of the days when they will start acting like terrorists. Don't push Kashmiris to the wall.

Tell us something new? These attacks have been happening for centuries. We have lost more civilians in 26/11 , 1993 blasts, train blasts....etc Such incidents have only strengthened the resolve to fight back & save our land. ppl who indulge in medieval tactics of destroying temples , murdering natives to scare them no longer works. Pandits will regain their temples ,their cutlure, their land, nothing will intimidate us.

 

[Spring Onion]

Yes we will .... we r evil and Pakistan army should do something to stop us ..


On topic.. you should not call killers of unarmed civilians as Innocent. Search op for your four innocent is on .



Image of your Sajad Bhai

So Indian army enter houses and shot three Kashmiris point blank and call it encounter . Look at the body and bullets.

anyway Freedom costs and that is what our Kashmiri brothers paying for freeing their country from Indian occupation.

RIP May God accept the sacrifices of these three Bhagat Singhs of Kashmir.

 

[Zhukov]

Okay. Thanks for the info. The fact remains that neither Pakistan nor India will give the other side any part of Kashmir occupied by them. You guys even fought over a rock with some snow on it and which is uninhabitable. So, there is little or no chance of any plebiscite or concessions from either side (leaving aside China and accepting that the land owned by China is barren and useless). From what I gathered here, neither India nor Pakistan will declare any war with each other over Kashmir since both are nuclear powers. The Indians may perhaps just be correct by asserting that the status quo will remain for a long long time (and maybe indefinately) since both nations are nuclear armed. A few guys attacking civilians or soldiers isn't going to liberate Kashmir. You know that and so do I. Unless the international community imposes sanctions on India over Kashmir, there is little or no chance that any domestic rebellion will hold any weight. I read about alleged Indian atrocities in Kashmir but that doesn't seem to have had any weight on the international communities outlook on the issue. Annually the OIC releases a statement condemning the suppression of Muslims in Kashmir and the very next day they rush off to do trade with India taking 1000s of Indian workers and investors into their countries. The situation is just getting worse for the average Kashmir occupant in Indian administered Kashmir instead of getting better. A false hope is being projected onto a few thousand of its youth who are receiving arms (presumably from Pakistan?) and who really are just wasting their time and their lives. Am I reading the situation wrong ?

Why do war?
Ask the locals what they want that's it.
Indian Forces keep committing atrocities against locals and all that unrest is evident as broad day light. White no such thing happens on Pakistan side how can you compare the two?
Only solution is a plebiscite. And Accept what public wants. If Majority of Kashmirs Vote for Union with India then case closed and LOC is the International Border.
Or may be you are suggesting that Let India Keep killing Kashmiris and Kashmiris keep protesting against India and Put a deaf ear calling it status quo.
India should have been able to turn Kashmiris into Delhi loving folks in 70 years and in 3 generations. And Look there 3rd generation is still protesting

 

[jetray]

So Indian army enter houses and shot three Kashmiris point blank and call it encounter . Look at the body and bullets.

anyway Freedom costs and that is what our Kashmiri brothers paying for freeing their country from Indian occupation.

RIP May God accept the sacrifices of these three Bhagat Singhs of Kashmir.

God will help the natives return to their land ,regain their temple, their culture..etc Centuries of atrocities will come to an end. Amen

 

[Spring Onion]

God will help the natives return to their land ,regain their temple, their culture..etc Centuries of atrocities will come to an end. Amen

You are just fooling your own Indians. What is stopping you from bringing the natives to the land? after all entire Kashmir is occupied by Indian army so what exactly is the hurdle ?

 

[jetray]

You are just fooling your own Indians. What is stopping you from bringing the natives to the land? after all entire Kashmir is occupied by Indian army so what exactly is the hurdle ?

 

[illusion8]

So Indian army enter houses and shot three Kashmiris point blank and call it encounter . Look at the body and bullets.

anyway Freedom costs and that is what our Kashmiri brothers paying for freeing their country from Indian occupation.

RIP May God accept the sacrifices of these three Bhagat Singhs of Kashmir.

The 4 districts of the valley from where all these terrorists germinate from is a large Muslim style ghetto that is a labyrinth of waahabi mosques, seminaries..maulanas preaching hate and indoctrinating youth...something similar to yournorth west frontier regions.

Its commendable that the security forces are showing great restraint and acting only on intelligence reports and targeting the terrorists...unlike flattening whole areas with bombing raids, artillery and tanks.

 

[AKD]

 

[Jugger]

Revenge=fake encounters=false flag yatri atttack

India will never see peace. Days are not far when all these angry people will adopt ISIS idiology and may attack mainland India. Mumbai 2008 could become very common thing.



Be afraid of the days when they will start acting like terrorists. Don't push Kashmiris to the wall.

You are absolutely right, Kashmir movement has been highjacked by these isis sympathizers. The hurryat is just wearing a mask of secularism to hide their true intentions.

This development is actually very bad for everyone in the region. Just imagine an isis infested independent Kashmir! It would be worst than the present day Afghanistan.

I think independent Kashmir is not viable anymore.

 

[KN-1]

yeah, any one who kills hindus are always innocent by default. No wonder kashmir is bereft of pandits & its temples in ruins.

not at all, i condemn killing of yatris. civilians shouldn't be targeted by either occupiers or freedom fighters.

They even cant right proper Salam, its Assalam o Alaikum wa'rahmatullahi wa'barakatuh another fake like encounters.

 

[salarsikander]

Yes we will .... we r evil and Pakistan army should do something to stop us ..


On topic.. you should not call killers of unarmed civilians as Innocent. Search op for your four innocent is on .



Image of your Sajad Bhai

@waz @The Eagle. Post reported for posting a dead mans picture in bad taste

 

[Afzal2010]

Why do war?
Ask the locals what they want that's it.
Indian Forces keep committing atrocities against locals and all that unrest is evident as broad day light. White no such thing happens on Pakistan side how can you compare the two?
Only solution is a plebiscite. And Accept what public wants. If Majority of Kashmirs Vote for Union with India then case closed and LOC is the International Border.
Or may be you are suggesting that Let India Keep killing Kashmiris and Kashmiris keep protesting against India and Put a deaf ear calling it status quo.
India should have been able to turn Kashmiris into Delhi loving folks in 70 years and in 3 generations. And Look there 3rd generation is still protesting

I am not suggesting anything. Just here to learn and to query. As I stated in the intro forum, I am doing a thesis on the after effects of partition of a country and I choose British Colonial India as my topic which includes Kashmir and the dispute there. My query was simply this...there seems to be no benefit in formenting any armed rebellion (which India claims Pakistan is doing) since it is getting neither the Pakistanis nor the Kashmiris anywhere (read my earlier post). There are many injustices in the world and Kashmir maybe one of them but the point is that it isn't resolvable and certainly not by way of any armed rebellion for my earlier reasons. All which is happening is that the youth and the residents of that province is suffering. There doesn't seem to be any chance of any plebiscite considering the comments on the internet and particularly this forum by Indians. So, my query is simply this, in the absence of any success of the armed rebellion and the absence of any chances of India and Pakistan going to war over Kashmir, what are the other possible solutions to benefit the people of that area?

 

[OnlyTheTruth]

So Indian army enter houses and shot three Kashmiris point blank and call it encounter . Look at the body and bullets.

anyway Freedom costs and that is what our Kashmiri brothers paying for freeing their country from Indian occupation.

RIP May God accept the sacrifices of these three Bhagat Singhs of Kashmir.

My blood boils when i see Pakistanis comparing Shaheed Bhagat Singh to these gun totting monkeys. Bhagat Singh read Marx, Bakunin, Trotsky, Lenin while writing essays(Why I am an Atheist), even in prison he surrounded himself with books and made notes, while the only books these three might have read is the holy Quran, even i am not sure of that. See the difference,idiots!

 

[Afzal2010]

My blood boils when i see Pakistanis comparing Shaheed Bhagat Singh to these gun totting monkeys. Bhagat Singh read Marx, Bakunin, Trotsky, Lenin while writing essays(Why I am an Atheist), even in prison he surrounded himself with books and made notes, while the only books these three might have read is the holy Quran, even i am not sure of that. See the difference,idiots!

You're losing the point which these people are making. Reading western books and eastern literature on communism or socialism isn't the basic entry point to becoming a revolutionary. The point is that the fighters are rebelling against India claiming that they want independence or unification with Pakistan for Kashmir. Does that constitute terrorism or rebellion to you? If for example, these fighters abandoned the Q'uran and started reading Mein Kamph, will that then qualify them as rebels instead of terrorist in your eyes?