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Pakistani Phulan Devi with a Wicked Smile God Damn

footage of woman behind bars is real
rest the shooting and car scene etc are dramatised
the interviews of police and the men are real.

Anyone who takes pleasure in killing is a psychopath. Why be stupid and avenge your brothers like this only to end up in the place as them, jail? I honestly thought it was fake. The whole thing just made me laugh
 
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just by chance I came across this video which is a re-enactment of a crime committed by Devious Woman. the actual footage of her behind bars shows her remorseless and shameless in her act and smiles to the camera.

long story short she setup a honey trap to have her enemies arrested on false charges of murder. she was avenging the jailing of his brother(s).

for some reason her smug face reminds me of Meryam Nawaz but its just me.View attachment 443808
She has her own identity, why relate her with indians for an identity. the video isnt working.
 
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Anyone who takes pleasure in killing is a psychopath. Why be stupid and avenge your brothers like this only to end up in the place as them, jail? I honestly thought it was fake. The whole thing just made me laugh
she is mentally disturbed and criminally insane. looking at her behind bars and while being taken away in a police van to the courts her facial expressions were no acting. its pure malice
 
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It's complicated.
It was screened in many places at first, did win awards, but Phoolan questioned the facts, court ordered ban on screenings, censor board made many cuts.
Not sure what the final decision was and whether it ran in public.

It's certainly shown on tv, with extended cuts of course.
You're old enough to know how many theatres played it.

It ran, finally. As you have guessed, limited releases; it was a critics' choice, and the masses didn't take to it. They didn't like Kapur's shattering perspective on rape, in particular the mass rape that she was subjected to by the Thakurs.

You clearly know your cinema stuff. I'm not a Bollywood fan myself, but this was different and I saw it at the time. If you asked me about other films post the 70s, I'd score a duck, and I saw the earlier 40s through 60s films late in life, drawn to them by the music.

Seema Biswas played the role brilliantly. Phoolan Devi objected to the very many rapes that she was shown going through in the movie; although those were probably real life events, she was, by then, in politics, and felt that it would be difficult to conduct election campaigns with such horrific scenes available for her opponents to point out to the electorate with a leer and an innuendo.

Wish you'd start a thread on film; I'd love to read the posts.
 
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just by chance I came across this video which is a re-enactment of a crime committed by Devious Woman. the actual footage of her behind bars shows her remorseless and shameless in her act and smiles to the camera.

long story short she setup a honey trap to have her enemies arrested on false charges of murder. she was avenging the jailing of his brother(s).

for some reason her smug face reminds me of Meryam Nawaz but its just me.View attachment 443808
2 or 3 years old video, I did watch this episode of true crime report and as per my best knowledge either she is suffering from mental illness schizophrenia / multiple personality disorder or generally a brave lady who can keep her nerves under cover. In either case she is suffering a hell in the jail.
 
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she is mentally disturbed and criminally insane. looking at her behind bars and while being taken away in a police van to the courts her facial expressions were no acting. its pure malice

Are you really a counter terrorism expert? Or is it just a title on here
 
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You clearly know your cinema stuff. I'm not a Bollywood fan myself, but this was different and I saw it at the time. If you asked me about other films post the 70s, I'd score a duck, and I saw the earlier 40s through 60s films late in life, drawn to them by the music.
I watch a lot of non-Indian films and can't stand most modern Indian movies. (Or most non-Indian movies for that matter).
But exactly like you, I was drawn to old Indian films including Bollywood because of the music. I absolutely love it and it made me love old films too.
I see why they were hits in Soviet Union.
Even a silly movie like Disco Dancer with silly songs, it's made in a way that makes you appreciate the poetry in the story.

Wish you'd start a thread on film; I'd love to read the posts.
Maybe one day.
Thank you for the kind words. You're one of those I really respect. So...
 
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I watch a lot of non-Indian films and can't stand most modern Indian movies. (Or most non-Indian movies for that matter).
But exactly like you, I was drawn to old Indian films including Bollywood because of the music. I absolutely love it and it made me love old films too.
I see why they were hits in Soviet Union.
Even a silly movie like Disco Dancer with silly songs, it's made in a way that makes you appreciate the poetry in the story.


Maybe one day.
Thank you for the kind words. You're one of those I really respect. So...
I love classical off beat movies and have great admiration for Nasir Udinshah and Shubana Azmi's short movies commercial movies have their place because they follow a formula but there are actors who shine nonetheless I loved the Puri brothers (Om puri and Amerish puri) may their souls rest in peace

Are you really a counter terrorism expert? Or is it just a title on here
its just a title on here which was granted due to my past service, experiences and contributions when I have plenty of time.
 
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It ran, finally. As you have guessed, limited releases; it was a critics' choice, and the masses didn't take to it. They didn't like Kapur's shattering perspective on rape, in particular the mass rape that she was subjected to by the Thakurs.

You clearly know your cinema stuff. I'm not a Bollywood fan myself, but this was different and I saw it at the time. If you asked me about other films post the 70s, I'd score a duck, and I saw the earlier 40s through 60s films late in life, drawn to them by the music.

Seema Biswas played the role brilliantly. Phoolan Devi objected to the very many rapes that she was shown going through in the movie; although those were probably real life events, she was, by then, in politics, and felt that it would be difficult to conduct election campaigns with such horrific scenes available for her opponents to point out to the electorate with a leer and an innuendo.

Wish you'd start a thread on film; I'd love to read the posts.
Damn Joe, u r super old.
 
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she is mentally disturbed and criminally insane. looking at her behind bars and while being taken away in a police van to the courts her facial expressions were no acting. its pure malice

Trust me, she’s not the only mentally ill one, I can think of someone too lol
 
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Was that last word really necessary? And leaving that aside, is what you're saying a good thing or a bad thing? :D
lol since I'm not yet old I can't say if it's good or bad. Being on this forum(or anywhere online) I mostly just assume ppl to be somewhat young...unless I find out otherwise. I was just asking out of curiosity/teasing.
 
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I love classical off beat movies and have great admiration for Nasir Udinshah and Shubana Azmi's short movies commercial movies have their place because they follow a formula but there are actors who shine nonetheless I loved the Puri brothers (Om puri and Amerish puri) may their souls rest in peace


its just a title on here which was granted due to my past service, experiences and contributions when I have plenty of time.

Ouch!

Chief, that is not fair to yourself. Please let it be known to the young lady what you have done and what you represent.

I watch a lot of non-Indian films and can't stand most modern Indian movies. (Or most non-Indian movies for that matter).
But exactly like you, I was drawn to old Indian films including Bollywood because of the music. I absolutely love it and it made me love old films too.

You will be fascinated if you go further into Hindi film music.

We all know about the poetry; we go into ecstasy about the tune making. But a Hindi film tune on screen is not poetry, the libretto, or the tune, the music. It is the orchestration also. The greatest pleasure I get out of these old songs is to listen carefully to the entire piece, including the poetry, the tune AND the orchestration. Try this experiment; listen to one of the oldies, Johnny Walker singing Tel Maalish, for instance (bad example: I'm unable to think of a good one quickly, perhaps from Howrah Bridge or from CID would be better). Try to listen to what is going on BESIDES the tune and the words. There is a third element, the orchestration, and no one pays attention to that.

All through the 40s through the 60s and 70s, Goan musicians drifted into Bombay and made livings for themselves in the fleshpots. Besides the thriving bars and cabaret shows that Bombay (and, even more than Bombay, Calcutta) was famous for, they found employment in the films. It was these musicians who were responsible for the very tuneful, hummable nature of 'Hindi' film tunes.

My particular favourite 'sweet spot' is O. P. Nayyar, Mohammed Rafi and Geeta Dutta; but beyond that, if you listen to the orchestration of these or any others of that generation, you will find some industrious Goan band-master hard at work.

The name Anthony Gonsalves was a real man's name; he was one of the best known of these Goan pioneers, and it is a wonderful tribute that his name was picked up and immortalised in Amar Akbar Antony.

I hope, when you listen to these songs again, you do that with a new sense of belonging and of closeness. Their clearly western influence is why I prefer listening to them, for instance, rather than to Indian Army music, that should have represented an element of western heritage in their marches, but has lost everything to some really crappy music for which the band-master responsible should have been court-martialled and shot, or impaled on someone's bagpipes.

@RAMPAGE

I see why they were hits in Soviet Union.
Even a silly movie like Disco Dancer with silly songs, it's made in a way that makes you appreciate the poetry in the story.


Maybe one day.
Thank you for the kind words. You're one of those I really respect. So...
 
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