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Pakistani Mullahs openly spew hate against Ahmadi Muslims and blame them for Peshawar Attacks

They blamed Ahmadis for every attack in Pakistan, LoL not just in Peshawar. Youtube still blocked in Pakistan?
Can't they decide who's to blame for the massacre of innocent children?

General Hafiz Saeed says it was RAW
The great self styled defence analyst of Pakistan Zaid Hamid says it was RAW, CIA and MOSSAD
Now this clown says it was Ahmedias!

WTF is going on? Pakistan has become a den for conspiracy theorists. And it's getting funnier by the day.
 
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General Hafiz Saeed says it was RAW
The great self styled defence analyst of Pakistan Zaid Hamid says it was RAW, CIA and MOSSAD
Now this clown says it was Ahmedias!

WTF is going on? Pakistan has become a den for conspiracy theorists. And it's getting funnier by the day.

Out of 200 million, few persons detached from reality said something silly, and you generalize it to whole nation? Are you sure you are not suffering from autism ?
 
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Out of 200 million, few persons detached from reality said something silly, and you generalize it to whole nation? Are you sure you are not suffering from autism ?
No really! I'm pretty sure I'm not suffering from autism.

Why is it that turds like Hafiz Saeed and Zaid Hamid are all over your media every other day influencing millions of sheeple watching TV and who believe what they say. You can see a sample of that in the OPs video where that clown is blaming the Ahmedias for the Peshawar carnage amidst huge rounds of applause from the audience!

So, friend, it's not as you say, 'few persons detached from reality'. The reality is that the majority believe in the crap spewed out by these yahoos! It's so bad that 199 million Pakistanis believe that General Hafiz Saeed is a social worker, never mind if he has been declared a global terrorist by not only the U.S. but by the UN and has a bounty of $10 million bounty on his head.

The UN had declared the JuD a terrorist organisation too, in December 2008. But he roams around free preaching hate and ranting especially against India, the US, and Israel, never mind if the US is pumping in billions of dollars to keep Pakistan from sinking. Just the other day, $1 billion was sanctioned for Pakistan by the US which is despised by the majority of Pakistanis in spite of the doles being handed out.

Pakistan's 'great social worker' Hafiz Saeed is the darling of the media and the Establishment's poster boy and spokesman. And needless to say these yahoos and their ilk have millions of followers, not just a 'few persons'.

Pathetic!!
And you say that only a 'few persons in Pakistan are detached from reality'? Wake up and smell the coffee. Deny ignorance, not reality.
 
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LINK from a Toronto Newspaper: Pakistan’s challenge in attack response to root out ‘good’ Taliban | Toronto Star


WASHINGTON—In the aftermath of last week’s brutal terrorist attack by the Taliban on a school in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, which left 148 dead, the country’s authorities responded with a firm, if heavy, hand.

Pakistani officials dubbed the massacre a “mini-9/11,” a tragic moment of reckoning in the country’s history. “Terrorism and sectarianism are a cancer for this country and now the time has come to root it out,” said Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Monday.

The Pakistani military carried out a “blitzkrieg” of airstrikes on suspected Taliban positions, allegedly killing dozens of militants. Authorities also lifted a moratorium on capital punishment in the country, and set about executing those with death sentences for terrorism charges. Six people have already been hanged, while some 50 more face imminent execution, according to reports. As many as 500 inmates on death row in Pakistan could be executed in the coming weeks.

Many are not impressed by this grim display of resolve. It is the response, observes Ahsan Butt, an assistant professor of international affairs at George Mason University, of a “punch-drunk state lashing out” with “the strategic equivalent of a non sequitur.”

International rights groups fear that some of the Pakistani inmates slated now for execution are innocent of crimes. In their rush to avenge Peshawar’s slain children, Pakistan’s leaders may be inflicting more injustice.

It’s clear that many in Pakistan want the Taliban to pay for their crime. And it’s also clear that there’s a recognition among some Pakistanis that many of their country’s wounds are self-inflicted. The Taliban, after all, were incubated for years by the Pakistani state as “strategic depth” in the larger geopolitical battles taking place in neighbouring Afghanistan.

In the past half a decade, a segment of the militants turned and targeted the machinery of the Pakistani state, imposing sharia law in remote areas where they held sway while killing hundreds of innocents.

Some Pakistanis came to tolerate a terrible dichotomy: the Pakistani Taliban were “bad,” while others, whose forays across Pakistan’s borders served the interests of elements of the military, were “good.” The Afghan Taliban’s leadership has long found sanctuary in Pakistan — so, too, other extremists, most notably Osama bin Laden.

Sharif has insisted no such distinction will be allowed, and that all the militant groups in the country “would be dealt equally with an iron hand.” The Pakistani military has spent the better part of the year on a ruthless military campaign against Taliban factions in the country’s rugged, remote tribal border areas. Thousands of militants have been killed and hundreds of thousands of civilians have been displaced.

But the problem of tackling militancy in Pakistan goes deeper than airstrikes and counter-insurgency. It’s far too early to judge what lessons have been learned after the horrors of Peshawar, and who has learned those lessons. Public opinion over Islamist militancy remains mixed, with many more wary of supposed external enemies in the West and India.

Conspiracy mongers, Islamist extremists and hard-line nationalists pinned the Peshawar attacks on India, on Afghanistan, on Arab outsiders — anyone but Pakistanis. The attitudes and ideologies that have condoned militancy in the past won’t go away overnight.

Just days after the massacre, a Pakistani court granted bail to a militant believed to be one of the masterminds of the 2008 terror attack in Mumbai. It was launched by Lashkar-e-Taiba, an Islamist militant group whose charity arm held a mournful mass prayer for the slain children of Peshawar and whose prominent leader Hafiz Saeed held a public gathering in the city of Lahore, blaming India for the slaughter — an absurd accusation that would be laughable were it not for the fact that far too many in Pakistan still choose to believe it.

Despite the consensus about dealing with the Taliban in their frontier hideouts, there’s little will among Pakistan’s political and military establishment to confront head-on groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and others that operate in the country’s heartland.

Husain Haqqani, a former Pakistani ambassador to the United States, writes at length on the roots of this schizophrenia, which he argues stems from the country’s origins as a haven for South Asia’s Muslims:

Pakistan’s constructed identity emphasizes religion and ideology at the expense of ethnic, linguistic and sectarian diversity of a complex society. As a result, the country’s approach to national security has been driven by ideological rather than pragmatic considerations . . .

The ideology of Pakistan, and the falsified historic narrative taught in schools to justify it, produces sympathy in society for Sharia rule, for an Islamic caliphate and an Islamic state. This works in favour of more than 33 militant groups that operate out of Pakistan. Pakistan’s strategic planners may see no difficulty in eliminating global terrorists and fighting local jihadis while supporting regional ones. But the general public is conflicted in its attitude toward jihadi groups. Unfortunately for those who want to stop the [Pakistani Taliban], their rhetoric about Sharia and against western values resonates with supporters of other, ostensibly ‘more palatable’, jihadi groups even if their methods are abhorred by Pakistanis.

The fragility of Pakistani nationalism — to this day, more South Asian Muslims are non-Pakistani than Pakistani — has allowed it to become an umbrella for unsavory extremism. That requires a very difficult reckoning, one for which some fear the country is still not ready.

“A national conversation like that remains improbable, however, in the climate of fear established by religious extremists and their many allies among mainstream political parties and the media,” writes professor Butt.

Some of the harshest critics of Pakistan’s security state doubt even the Peshawar massacre will shake the convictions of elements within the Pakistani establishment that remain tacitly or directly in collusion with extremist forces. This includes a wing of the ISI, Pakistan’s notorious military intelligence agency.

“Unfortunately, many tens of thousands of Pakistanis will die long before the army gives up its jihad habit,”. “And there is absolutely no amount of American, British or other aid or forms of inducements that can change this basic truth.”
 
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Terror groups like the LeT and JeM have been raised, nurtured, trained, funded and armed as Pakistan's 'strategic assets', by the Establishment, controlled by the ISI's 'S' Wing, spending billions of rupees in the process. How can they now disengage? They will never, they are the PA's first line of defence against a future Indian attack.

And they are the PA's foot soldiers for carrying out their proxy war against India. So to think that the terror script will change after the Peshawar carnage is living in a dream world. Nothing is going to change. It will be business as usual. Sooner than later, more rank and file of these 'strategic assets' will join the 'bad' terrorist organizations like the TTP and wreck more havoc in Pakistan. Sadly it seems that the Establishment doesn't seem to realise this clear and present danger.

You can't train a snake to bite only the neighbors. Nuff said!
 
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Mullahs are mullahs but what the hell even audience and host is clapping about it
 
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Out of 200 million, few persons detached from reality said something silly, and you generalize it to whole nation? Are you sure you are not suffering from autism ?

I wouldn't be so sure about that. These few people manning the pulpits and comfortable sofas at talk-shows command flocks of significant sizes.

The hardliners may comprise less than 2% of our society but when they preach, and in the heat of decision-making moments - such as when mob-mentality takes over as did in Lahore on 29th May, 2010, the hardliners command both authority and respect from an even larger number of people and their hate-speech drowns all voices of reason and logic.

Think of them as the sewerage system in Lahore. Underground, foul-smelling and rotten to the core - not noticeable on a normal day in Pakistan. But when it rains, that sewerage system overflows and fills the streets with excrement, bringing ordinary life to a halt for a brief but substantial amount of time. It's not so much the incident itself but the crap it leaves behind which makes it a considerable threat to peaceful coexistence with the minorities. Nobody really takes action against the perpetrators and this is where the blinding indifference, which has seeped into the very core of our society, becomes prominent.

It doesn't matter who suffers as long as the Muslim is plump as a partridge.

To make it worse, the gibberish-spewing mullahs have confuddled the average Muslim to the extent that 'wajabul-qatl' has practically become a word synonymous with the Ahmedi minority. This comes as a strange surprise to me because when Ibn Habib al Hanifi declared prophethood and sent a message to Abu Al Qasim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh (pbuh) telling him that Allah had split the Earth into halves to be shared between the two prophets, Muhammad (pbuh) did not write back cursing him and telling him he was wajabul-qatl. Instead Muhammad (pbuh) wrote back:

"From Muhammad, the Messenger of God, to Musaylimah, the arch-liar. Peace be upon him who follows (God's) guidance. Now then, surely the earth belongs to God, who bequeaths it to whom He will amongst his servants. The ultimate issue is to the God-fearing."​

Ibn Habib al Hanifi was killed in the battle of Yamamah and not lynched in a back-alley as the local Imam would have you believe.

In fact excerpts from historic-Muslim literature show that in its early days Islam was for reasoning with the kufaar rather than taking the sword to them at the drop of a hat. It was only later when Islam had established its dominion that the following instances came to pass:

Aswad al-Ansi of Yemen was declared a Prophet by the Yemenites and was reportedly assassinated by Fayruz Al-Daylami during the lifetime of Muhammad (pbuh). Some sources say that Fayruz was dispatched by the Prophet (pbuh) himself.

In Samara, Mahmud son of al-Faraj appeared in 850 CE with a claim that the Quran was revealed to him through the angel Gabriel. He was executed on the orders of the caliph, al-Mutawakkil.

Unfortunate or just plain divine comedy, as Dante would have labelled it, for every one peaceful interpretation of Islam there is an equally violent one. Whereas the sane Muslim holds fast to Islam-the-religion-of-peace-interpretation, the hardliner chooses the latter. Who's wrong? Surprisingly neither, but the hardliner will reign supreme in many instances because he is far more assertive with his gun than the peaceful one is with his pen, insight and gift of gab.
 
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Still way better then Azerbaijan which is a jewish puppet:lol:
STFU...we should also have relations of mutual interest with Israel...even Turkey has consulate in Israel? I wanted to say more but when are you :crazy:quiting arabic mindset? And grow up Azerbaijan is good friend of Pakistan so is the Turkey which trades with Israel...STFU again and start curing arabic cancer you have...:crazy:
 
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General Hafiz Saeed says it was RAW
The great self styled defence analyst of Pakistan Zaid Hamid says it was RAW, CIA and MOSSAD
Now this clown says it was Ahmedias!

WTF is going on? Pakistan has become a den for conspiracy theorists. And it's getting funnier by the day.
Exactily when every india says mumbai incidence was from Pakistan.. i would call it a joke as well..
its cuz they have pakistani tooth brush and paste.. shan masala packet huf.
indian former RAW agent and subraminium tried to convience with everything that Pakistan was involved but interpol head said there is no Prof that Pakistani government of Pakistanies were involved in it..
by screaming on tv and creating preception cant hide truth.
 
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General Hafiz Saeed says it was RAW
The great self styled defence analyst of Pakistan Zaid Hamid says it was RAW, CIA and MOSSAD
Now this clown says it was Ahmedias!

WTF is going on? Pakistan has become a den for conspiracy theorists. And it's getting funnier by the day.

This is what happens when a population is spoon fed on a highly toxic form of religion. Like other toxins, this religious intolerance tends to cloud the minds of its users thus making them paranoid and start showing signs of a victim complex. Can't think of any nicer words to describe the situation.
 
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Exactily when every india says mumbai incidence was from Pakistan.. i would call it a joke as well..
its cuz they have pakistani tooth brush and paste.. shan masala packet huf.
What really pissed me off was that those yahoos who infiltrated from Pakistan carried Shan masala packets with them! And I've been trying to lay my hands on this masala since the past couple of months and have failed! Jeeez! It sucks!:pissed: :lol:
 
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Luqman Ahmad, 27, was murdered in Gujranwala, Pakistan, just days after Aamir Liaquat Hussain's national TV show on the Geo channel aired hate-speech against Ahmadi Muslims
 
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No really! I'm pretty sure I'm not suffering from autism.

Why is it that turds like Hafiz Saeed and Zaid Hamid are all over your media every other day influencing millions of sheeple watching TV and who believe what they say. You can see a sample of that in the OPs video where that clown is blaming the Ahmedias for the Peshawar carnage amidst huge rounds of applause from the audience!

So, friend, it's not as you say, 'few persons detached from reality'. The reality is that the majority believe in the crap spewed out by these yahoos! It's so bad that 199 million Pakistanis believe that General Hafiz Saeed is a social worker, never mind if he has been declared a global terrorist by not only the U.S. but by the UN and has a bounty of $10 million bounty on his head.

The UN had declared the JuD a terrorist organisation too, in December 2008. But he roams around free preaching hate and ranting especially against India, the US, and Israel, never mind if the US is pumping in billions of dollars to keep Pakistan from sinking. Just the other day, $1 billion was sanctioned for Pakistan by the US which is despised by the majority of Pakistanis in spite of the doles being handed out.

Pakistan's 'great social worker' Hafiz Saeed is the darling of the media and the Establishment's poster boy and spokesman. And needless to say these yahoos and their ilk have millions of followers, not just a 'few persons'.

Pathetic!!
And you say that only a 'few persons in Pakistan are detached from reality'? Wake up and smell the coffee. Deny ignorance, not reality.

Shouldn't you be helping RSS convert more bad Muslims and bad Christians to hinduvata.
 
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Shouldn't you be helping RSS convert more bad Muslims and bad Christians to hinduvata.
It's not about conversions. It's about death and destruction by your good and bad terrorists. 50,000 killed already including 18,000 troops, far more than all the wars that Pakistan has fought against India.

The RSS has done nothing of the sort, nor do they carry AK-47s in public like General Hafiz Saeed's hoards whilst he holds public rallies in Pakistan! The government also provides these gun toting yahoos special trains! Jeeez!

So much for fighting terror! It's joke of galactic proportions!
 
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It's not about conversions. It's about death and destruction by your good and bad terrorists. 50,000 killed already including 18,000 troops, far more than all the wars that Pakistan has fought against India.

The RSS has done nothing of the sort, nor do they carry AK-47s in public like General Hafiz Saeed's hoards whilst he holds public rallies in Pakistan! The government also provides these gun toting yahoos special trains! Jeeez!

So much for fighting terror! It's joke of galactic proportions!

Hafiz saeed Sahab is not terrorist at all .. matter fact he is helping Pakistani gov eliminating indian terrorism in Pakistan.
really you guys think Pakistan is in space or somwhere out of this world. Every hate Speaches against Pakistan From Rss their youth org Bajrangdal other indian terrorists orginizations posts it online. they have 100 thousands volunteer for what and they all well trained for who ..
They sud hand over colonel Probjeet who was involved in Samjotha express burned alive 64 innocent Pakistanies.
and we have no doubt that india is behind Peshawar attack..
But Pakistan is not cheap like india who kill Pakistani soilders in Flag meeting.
i think Pakistan sud support nexlites in Assam as they are supporting TTP.
 
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