Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[mingle]

Don't get your hopes high. Purchase of T-129 would always mean they're prone to sanctions. Z-10 is safer route for Pakistan. Chinese tech. is fast improving and will soon reach Western standards.

Turkey will ensure spare parts supplies

 

[Zarvan]

Mi-35 is already in service. If Mi-28NE would have been an option, PAA wouldnt have gone for Mi-35M which offers almost similar capabilities.

We went for MI-35 it was because it can carry 6 to 7 guys also

 

[Hassan Guy]

 

[SQ8]

Mi-35 is already in service. If Mi-28NE would have been an option, PAA wouldnt have gone for Mi-35M which offers almost similar capabilities.

Save the ability to carry 4(and 6 uncomfortably) inside to drop off for an assault. The Mi-28 can carry 2 in an internal torture chamber.

Theoretically, the Mi-35’s could rearm in the field by just landing and having these rearmament guys reload.

 

[imadul]

Mi-35 is already in service. If Mi-28NE would have been an option, PAA wouldnt have gone for Mi-35M which offers almost similar capabilities.

Not similar, Dear brother
Mi-35M is attack plus 8 troop transport and medevac, it is main purpose is not attack but it can deal with the situation.
Role of 28-NE is attack, has more A2G missiles plus 2 x A2A, and heavier rockets.
Has overall much less cross section so much more suited to attack ops.

 

[GriffinsRule]

 

[Irfan Baloch]

please stick to the topic
take the discussion of chinese, American and Russian helicopter options to other threads

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

To reiterate what I've said numerous times. Seeing the T129 go would be sad indeed. T129 would have offered us in roads into PAC manufacturing or at least thinking about making our own family of helicopters.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Recent Turkish Grand Drone Delights vis-à-vis the Russian made tanks + AD have put the choppers in the back burner....

Pak should rather spend this money on building this drone + EW capability. And, here no foreign string for all engines are being indigenously manufactured....

The Indian armored is 100% Russian...

 

[Shabi1]

Mi-35 is already in service. If Mi-28NE would have been an option, PAA wouldnt have gone for Mi-35M which offers almost similar capabilities.

The role it was bought for was not anti armor, Mi-35 is very unique among gunships a specifically in use with PA for COIN.
It was bought because the Bell-412 and Mi-17 troop carriers needed Cobra escorts, which was not possible all the time. The Mi-35 solves the problem by being the troop transport and the fire support.

 

[Signalian]

Not similar, Dear brother
Mi-35M is attack plus 8 troop transport and medevac, it is main purpose is not attack but it can deal with the situation.
Role of 28-NE is attack, has more A2G missiles plus 2 x A2A, and heavier rockets.
Has overall much less cross section so much more suited to attack ops.

The role it was bought for was not anti armor, Mi-35 is very unique among gunships a specifically in use with PA for COIN.
It was bought because the Bell-412 and Mi-17 troop carriers needed Cobra escorts, which was not possible all the time. The Mi-35 solves the problem by being the troop transport and the fire support.

Capabilities - That's what i mentioned. Not role !

 

[Robin rone]

Recent Turkish Grand Drone Delights vis-à-vis the Russian made tanks + AD have put the choppers in the back burner....

Pak should rather spend this money on building this drone + EW capability. And, here no foreign string for all engines are being indigenously manufactured....

The Indian armored is 100% Russian...

I don't think what Turkey done with ew and UAV to saa will work out same with India they are much more advanced than SAA also after Feb 27 they ramped up their ad much more ,if am correct India lack armed UACV which Pakistan already posses but India also have land based Ew system called samykuta so Pakistan can employ TAF tactics after successful SEAD op by paf fighter not with UCAV

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Pakistan is in dire need of Good attack helicopter as our previous fleet is enough old now although still performing well. Unfortunately, decision was taken very late to buy new ones.Now, both purchased have hit strings due to USA.

If matter is resolved in one year, fine else we have to take other measure to resolve this issue.
I personally think, this barrier will lead Pakistan to manufacture its own Attack helicopter in near future like F-16 deal was blocked and it paved the way towards JF-17.Necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[Robin rone]

Pakistan is in dire need of Good attack helicopter as our previous fleet is enough old now although still performing well. Unfortunately, decision was taken very late to buy new ones.Now, both purchased have hit strings due to USA.

If matter is resolved in one year, fine else we have to take other measure to resolve this issue.
I personally think, this barrier will lead Pakistan to manufacture its own Attack helicopter in near future like F-16 deal was blocked and it paved the way towards JF-17.Necessity is the mother of invention.

Pakistan must go with Chinese counterpart z10 becoz it is the only one currently economically affordable and get numerical competitive advantage to Pakistan now also wast amount of weapon Chinese weapon selection also gud thing for Pakistan during war scenario spare parts and ammunition will be easily available becoz of China's logistics support but in other hand for India it will became nightmare becoz its uncle Sam product

 

[Cool_Soldier]

OR get ready to pay for 15 AH1 Zs to get the machine.