PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Readerdefence]

Hi while members here discussing including myself PL15e range why don’t we all come to one &only one conclusion if PAF and GOP is advertising J10c almost like a stealth aircraft then we all should agree to one thing
PL15 whatever range it has must be and Im saying must be if not above then the METEOR missile
otherwise no point of getting PL15 if PAF can’t shoot down first Rafale so let’s say Rafale 150 PL15 e or no E will be same at least if nobody want to make it to 200 or so
another thing why will China give something which can not compete with Rafale it’s chinas repute online for further export to other countries too
thank you

 

[The Terminator]

I blame YouTubers for this. Every time someone searched for a J-10C video they ended up with J-10B with TVC performing cobras. This led many to assume it was in fact J-10C with TVC. & now PAF has added that clip to their promotional video.

I already knew about that info but when PAF adds these kind of clips in their official promo then it confuses even the knowledgeable ones that exactly which kind of engine is in J-10CP. As Pakistani variant is not the same as Chinese one

 

[帅的一匹]

I already knew about that info but when PAF adds these kind of clips in their official promo then it confuses even the knowledgeable ones that exactly which kind of engine is in J-10CP. As Pakistani variant is not the same as Chinese one

They just wanna show you what J10x can do with WS15 engine. That’s the point I love PAF, they see the future possibility (super cruise and super maneuverability .

This is completely different from Indian show off, PAF has visions and desires.

 

[The Terminator]

They just wanna show you what J10x can do with WS15 engine. That’s the point I love PAF, they see the future possibility (super cruise and super maneuverability .

This is completely different from Indian show off, PAF has visions and desires.

Have you watched the promo video? What do you think! Has PAF done a better job in marketing of J-10C

 

[帅的一匹]

The way forward is bright, it just begin.

Have you watched the promo video? What do you think! Has PAF done a better job in marketing J-10C

Way better than AVIC

 

[The Eagle]

They are handed over to sqr in replacement of mirages dedicated for a to g role

The same squadron that scored first Aerial kill in 1959 if I am not mistaken. Mind you, pilots are not role specific. They can go for any mission but it's the aircraft.

 

[SABRE]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502992444891308039

Way better than AVIC

Honestly, the aircraft looks far better in the videos captured by Pakistan Air Force than PLAAF ever has.

 

[Chak Bamu]

How big is the difference?

I really can not say. We just took words of CAS on face value.

IMV JF-17 Block III must have been found wanting against Rafale. Also, it was time that PAF committed to a program that would take the force beyond 2040s. With a low RCS design, 1000+ T/R module AESA radar, top-notch avionics, good TWR, OK payload, & room for growth, J-10C was the logical choice.

I am not saying that JF-17 would necessarily lose to Rafale - it would still out-stick it with PL-15. Its that PAF must have wargamed the heck out of various scenarios to find that they want a surer qualitative edge. JF-17 design was always that of a low cost, inexpensive operation cost, light, and numbers fighter. There is only so much it can do. It shall grow further & I fully expect a Block-IV, even if we may not call it that.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

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All look senior pilots. Not a single rookie.

 

[Windjammer]

Seen over Islamabad today while rehearsing for Pakistan Dsy Parade.

 

[Rank]

Honestly, the aircraft looks far better in the videos captured by Pakistan Air Force than PLAAF ever has.

Because they are serious in developing things, in research and development, tech and other things where as we are buyer, more in show off, not even produce a single helicopter to date, even we role out so called “OUR” JF17 new version from “China”. Thats enough to understand who and who is actually doing the real work.

 

[TheSolution]

Because they are serious in developing things, in research and development, tech and other things where as we are buyer, more in show off, not even produce a single helicopter to date, even we role out so called “OUR” JF17 new version from “China”. Thats enough to understand who and who is actually doing the real work.

Our production quality and marketing most of the time is horrible anyway

This seems like a one-off, perhaps it was a nod by the Chinese for indirect marketing for their jet

 

[Reichmarshal]

I really can not say. We just took words of CAS on face value.

IMV JF-17 Block III must have been found wanting against Rafale. Also, it was time that PAF committed to a program that would take the force beyond 2040s. With a low RCS design, 1000+ T/R module AESA radar, top-notch avionics, good TWR, OK payload, & room for growth, J-10C was the logical choice.

I am not saying that JF-17 would necessarily lose to Rafale - it would still out-stick it with PL-15. Its that PAF must have wargamed the heck out of various scenarios to find that they want a surer qualitative edge. JF-17 design was always that of a low cost, inexpensive operation cost, light, and numbers fighter. There is only so much it can do. It shall grow further & I fully expect a Block-IV, even if we may not call it that.

PAF has to replace more than 200 plud ac immediately. With jf 17 thunder production at around 20 ac it would take 10 years to do that.
So PAF has no option but to buy not just one but 2 platforms

 

[Yasser76]

PAF has to replace more than 200 plud ac immediately. With jf 17 thunder production at around 20 ac it would take 10 years to do that.
So PAF has no option but to buy bot just one but 2 platforms

How did you get the 200 number?

Mirages are down to around 80 planes and F-7PGs down to around 40.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

PAF has to replace more than 200 plud ac immediately.

who told you that ?

this 200 number count was 7-8 years back. Now start counting how many thunders we have added after that, so as 13 Jordanian F16s and 36 J10Cs soon to be included as well.