PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

 

[The Terminator]

WS-10B

Non Thrust vectoring bs version

Thanks now I got my answer!

 

[Aesterix]

Indians had been chest thumping about Rafale for the last 5 years.
Pakistan got done and dusted with the countermeasures J-10CE in mere 8 months, without even creating a whisper.
Same about Indian shouting their throats out for S-400 for over 5 years.
Pakistan bought and induction countermeasures HQ-9 without anyone knowing much.
The difference between professionals and show-offs.

 

[The Terminator]

Pakistan really need to sort out its political difference and have clear 15 year economic plan. After the current situation in ukraine, it needs to find new markets in central asia and asean, and try to keep distance from globalization as much as it can. Because the best weapon of west is now financial sanctions. So Pakistan need to learn fast and adapt.

Wrong. Really wrong assessment. The best weapon of the west is control of Information and global media/propaganda. They can twist anything to look great or worse. Their power lies in the narrative building. Sanctions are their 2nd best weapon but it's gradually loosing it's potency.

 

[truthseeker2010]

Wrong. Really wrong assessment. The best weapon of the west is control of Information and global media/propaganda. They can twist anything to look great or worse. Their power lies in the narrative building. Sanctions are their 2nd best weapon but it's gradually loosing it's potency.

Propaganda does not hurt, sanctions do.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Hmm? My point is, are they now indeed already part of the 15th Squadron or was it more a formal or official induction like a "welcome to Pakistan and here we are"! ceremony?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502992444891308039

 

[siegecrossbow]

Dont know why this question is being asked every now and than. Its annoying.

Because people still doubt the quality of Chinese engines. All I've got to say is that J-16s and J-11B, which both use a variation of the same engine used on J-10CP, have probably clocked 2000 flights over Taiwan strait (open water) without mishap. Don't worry about it.

TVC? I asked for complete model and variant.

Hey jus chill! don't overreact. I just wanna know they are TVC capable or not because PAF promo video displayed a Chinese jet with TVC specific maneuvers. So that clip created some confusion if PAF J-10CPs can do the same or not!

No TVC. The only TVC equipped engine that PLAAF plans on fielding is WS-15.

 

[The Terminator]

Because people still doubt the quality of Chinese engines. All I've got to say is that J-16s and J-11B, which both use a variation of the same engine used on J-10CP, have probably clocked 2000 flights over Taiwan strait (open water) without mishap. Don't worry about it.



No TVC. The only TVC equipped engine that PLAAF plans on fielding is WS-15.

So how did the J-10C performed stunts like Russian TVC flankers! Don't tell me it wasn't with TVC

 

[siegecrossbow]

So how did the J-10C performed stunts like Russian TVC flankers! Don't tell me it wasn't with TVC

It wasn't a J-10C. It was a modified J-10B with TVC engine nozzle, a demonstrator for future tech to be incorporated onto the J-20.

 

[The Terminator]

Propaganda does not hurt, sanctions do.

I don't wanna indulge in long debates here maybe some other time at better place. It's not the correct thread to discuss that.

Just a hint. Heros don't get banned/sanctioned because they are the good guys. And who does make the heros . . . .
Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Libya, Palestine vs Ukraine, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Israel etc What's the difference between the 2 groups? Figure out

 

[Aesterix]

Because people still doubt the quality of Chinese engines. All I've got to say is that J-16s and J-11B, which both use a variation of the same engine used on J-10CP, have probably clocked 2000 flights over Taiwan strait (open water) without mishap. Don't worry about it.



No TVC. The only TVC equipped engine that PLAAF plans on fielding is WS-15.

Tvc involves lots of hydraulic actuators, which add to the weight and power requirements.
The downside.

 

[Air Wolf]

but it doesnt mean the same WC Imtiaz who on CO of no. 15 now

Same.

 

[SABRE]

It wasn't a J-10C. It was a modified J-10B with TVC engine nozzle, a demonstrator for future tech to be incorporated onto the J-20.

I blame YouTubers for this. Every time someone searched for a J-10C video they ended up with J-10B with TVC performing cobras. This led many to assume it was in fact J-10C with TVC. & now PAF has added that clip to their promotional video.

 

[blain2]

WS-10B

Non Thrust vectoring bs version

Are you deprecating the engine? How so?

TVC cuts the engine life down by at least 1/3. It has limited value in BVR and WVR combat given the proliferation of highly agile WVR AAMs with imaging IR seekers that make this type of aircraft maneuverability fairly redundant.

Sometimes keeping things simple is the better option.

 

[tman786]