PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Dreamer.]

No, since the current radar in the Block 2 JF-17 is the KLJ-7V2 and the Block 3's radar is the KLJ-7A it seems not unlikely that the J-10C's radar is a development of the original Type 1473G. How this is designated is not known and IMO anything between KLJ-XA or even a KLJ-10A but unlikely JS-10.

lol, you weren't supposed to take the name 'js-10' for the radar seriously. pakistani members know where that name came from, and i'm sure by now you should too.

 

[siegecrossbow]

In my opinion he biggest reason for J-10c Purchase was PL-15 .WIth long range missile , a radar capable of Locking on targets at those ranges is a must, otherwise whats the point?

I think so. KLJ-7A can’t utilize PL-15 to its fullest potential.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

I think there won't be any ceremony anymore. Even 23rd march parade seems unlikely to happen. Pakistan is about to enter a major chaotic phase with opposition vote of no confidence move in the next 3-4 days where Imran Khan is unlikely to survive. Without PM, I don't think so anything gonna happen. IK himself will be extremely busy in the next couple of days where he is likely to meet his MNAs and allied parties to back him up.

Parade may still happen with President on the stage alone but with no PM and cabinet members, it will be a low limited event.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Upcoming OIC summit will be canceled / shifted from Islamabad as well in case of PM ousted. Strange that none of the poster besides me talked about this scenario. All is not well in Islamabad at the moment. PTI knows it. Let's hope IK survives and we get to see induction at highest official level.

 

[kursed]

I don't get some folks. When there was first talk of Pak getting J10Cs, the issue turned to it having an inferior engine and no IRST. When both of these were confirmed to be not true, then the discussion turned to the aircraft not having the aerial refueling probe. When that was finally shown in a picture, now the issue is about the aircraft having an inferior radar?

This increasingly sounds like inferiority complex, not some technical discussion. PAF has opted for the most proper solution that upgrades its capacity to take on current and near-future threats emerging from the East. Period.

 

[Raja Porus]

Parade may still happen with President on the stage alone but with no PM and cabinet members, it will be a low limited event

As if they ever mattered...

 

[siegecrossbow]

I don't get some folks. When there was first talk of Pak getting J10Cs, the issue turned to it having an inferior engine and no IRST. When both of these were confirmed to be not true, then the discussion turned to the aircraft not having the aerial refueling probe. When that was finally shown in a picture, now the issue is about the aircraft having an inferior radar?

This increasingly sounds like inferiority complex, not some technical discussion. PAF has opted for the most proper solution that upgrades its capacity to take on current and near-future threats emerging from the East. Period.

Cautious pessimism is fine as long as people don't overdo it.

 

[Dreamer.]

I don't get some folks. When there was first talk of Pak getting J10Cs, the issue turned to it having an inferior engine and no IRST. When both of these were confirmed to be not true, then the discussion turned to the aircraft not having the aerial refueling probe. When that was finally shown in a picture, now the issue is about the aircraft having an inferior radar?

This increasingly sounds like inferiority complex, not some technical discussion. PAF has opted for the most proper solution that upgrades its capacity to take on current and near-future threats emerging from the East. Period.

I think you are wrong on radar part, no one has suggested it is inferior. Being unknown does not automatically imply being inferior. Being a major asset of PLAAF, and into its third iteration now, J-10 is definitely expected to have the higher end of chinese technology in every area.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Upcoming OIC summit will be canceled / shifted from Islamabad as well in case of PM ousted. Strange that none of the poster besides me talked about this scenario. All is not well in Islamabad at the moment. PTI knows it. Let's hope IK survives and we get to see induction at highest official level.

Yes it’s supposed to snow as well…. What nonsense you are saying.

Some members just made up deadLines and timelines of
Delivery without having any knowledge at all.
Only one thing is certain . J10s will fly on March 23 and that’s all we need to know.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Much awaited induction due to world situation now

 

[SQ8]

I don't get some folks. When there was first talk of Pak getting J10Cs, the issue turned to it having an inferior engine and no IRST. When both of these were confirmed to be not true, then the discussion turned to the aircraft not having the aerial refueling probe. When that was finally shown in a picture, now the issue is about the aircraft having an inferior radar?

This increasingly sounds like inferiority complex, not some technical discussion. PAF has opted for the most proper solution that upgrades its capacity to take on current and near-future threats emerging from the East. Period.

Pakistani mental issues with wanting to be victims one way or the other. Stems from a collective narcissistic nature that wants attention all the time and considers itself brilliance dogged by unfair external factors that allow them to absolve themselves of all blame.

If Pakistanis had a website it would be www.becharageniusbahadurpakistan.mil.pk

 

[Zarvan]

No official confirmation. We know nothing - not how many are coming now or later this year or in total.

Figure of 25 was given by Sheikh Rasheed, but even with that we don't know if it's total number of J10, or numbers to receive this year, or just that a total of 25 aircraft (not necessarily J10) will fly on 23 March.

Everything else you are reading is speculation - some of it based on reason, some just people pretending like they know what they are talking about.

Not pretending. These people were the ones who told that J 10 C are coming 1.5 year ago. When no one had any clue. Same groups now says 60 are in first order

I think there won't be any ceremony anymore. Even 23rd march parade seems unlikely to happen. Pakistan is about to enter a major chaotic phase with opposition vote of no confidence move in the next 3-4 days where Imran Khan is unlikely to survive. Without PM, I don't think so anything gonna happen. IK himself will be extremely busy in the next couple of days where he is likely to meet his MNAs and allied parties to back him up.

Parade may still happen with President on the stage alone but with no PM and cabinet members, it will be a low limited event.

INSHALLAH Khan is going no where and parade is happening with full might. So please stop spreading disappointments

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

As if they ever mattered...

It will be a pretty dumb@$$ idea to stage a parade without a PM

Not pretending. These people were the ones who told that J 10 C are coming 1.5 year ago. When no one had any clue. Same groups now says 60 are in first order


INSHALLAH Khan is going no where and parade is happening with full might. So please stop spreading disappointments

Inshallah but its fifty fifty chance. Without him, there won't be any fun.

 

[Beast]

In my opinion he biggest reason for J-10c Purchase was PL-15 .WIth long range missile , a radar capable of Locking on targets at those ranges is a must, otherwise whats the point?

Becos J-10C is much superior than JF-17 Blk 3.

 

[Chak Bamu]

All three if you please!

Before replying you should have understood my posts properly. I was replying to posts made previously by other users on the subject of radar. You can't understand my post by looking at it in isolation, you have to read it in the context in which it was made to understand the point I was making.

And that point wasn't specifically about AESA or not AESA. It was about secrecy around the J-10 radar, shrouding it in mystery. And why such secrecy? You don't reveal anything about a radar's capability by revealing it's name. We know block-3 has KLJ-7A and that it's AESA. Does that tell us everything about it's capabilities? Infact nothing more than a few generalistic conclusions can be reached from this information. So Why not even this much for J-10?

Why do you want to know the information that would certainly be kept secret? Do you think it is a good idea to flout SOPs & post full specs of all the equipment to make it easy for adversaries to find ways & means to undermine them?

There is a point beyond which lusting after more information becomes counter-productive, even harmful for a country's security. Do you think it is a wise idea to prioritize information above even security?

I am automatically suspicious of anyone who asks too many probing questions about equipment without a stated or established purpose. Its just not a good idea to spill beans for the sake of appearing knowledgeable & some young people have done that in the past on this & other forums.

And yes, I did read all your posts on the subject. I still did not think it was a good idea to look for information that would compromise security. Once a grainy picture of J-10C with its radar dome exposed was shared, it was established with reasonable certainty that J-10C's radar is AESA. It was just bad form to keep questioning whether J-10C has an AESA radar or not; & try to find out its specification, even though it is automatically understood that no one would actually provide credible information about it unless manufacturer is allowed to do so.