PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[RIP Pak LAW]

S400 will certainly have different/better algos regarding signal processing apart from increased range.

Not really. HQ9B is pretty much based on S400. Its just that S400 fires two missiles against one target hence increasing the chance of successful interception.

 

[Goenitz]

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base beach pa lag rahi ha. I think it is for NAVY.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

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Oops landed on the wrong base. Please "find" another "background", I meant to say base.

 

[SQ8]

Exactly Moreover, now everyone just discusses equipment or their technical details and not their employment/ tactics. Everyone just wants the news of new eqpt but no one writes about planning, tactics, deployment according to ORBATS, scenarios. Moreover the Think tanks who used to post/ elaborate and take active part in such threads have either left or post rarely (IF such threads are created in the first place).
For instance you can compare all the threads of 2021 which will only be on procurement woth those of 2019/20 which will be on conflict analysis, operational planning of scenarios etc.

Heaven forbid if anyone actually discusses or understands costs involved with procurement, training and lifecycle. According to most PDFs weapon systems are like cars that they can purchase and then leave for ten years parked in the shed - maybe start it every month(which actually doesn’t work for cars either).

 

[Battlion25]

Heaven forbid if anyone actually discusses or understands costs involved with procurement, training and lifecycle. According to most PDFs weapon systems are like cars that they can purchase and then leave for ten years parked in the shed - maybe start it every month(which actually doesn’t work for cars either).

The place needs to be cleaned up imo.. 4-5 individuals here needs to get perma-banned I hate to say this but they must be given the marching order Just don't believe they are on the same page as this country nor moving the same directions... Also fake news should be come down on hard here

 

[JawadKKhan]

Were people expecting this..

But aside from that what did Nawaz actully buy during his era? Imo he didn't do much for the military in his era unlike this government

Wrong!. Military deals / agreements take long time. So you can't be sure of that. The 08 submarine deals was signed in 2016. The first 2 Type 54 A/Ps were signed in 2017.

It happens all the time, many military deals were signed up in Musharaf's time but they were received during PPP time.

i hope news is just misunderstanding . china will send 25 PLAF J-10 for participate in 23 march flypass

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Actually you never know. PAF is getting J-10Cs that for sure. But the air-show could be done by the chinese aerobatic team as seen in the screenshot.

 

[The Eagle]

The place needs to be cleaned up imo.. 4-5 individuals here needs to get perma-banned I hate to say this but they must be given the marching order Just don't believe they are on the same page as this country nor moving the same directions... Also fake news should be come down on hard here

Joined July 2021 and you have concluded as such..... Calm down.

 

[applesauce]

Not really. HQ9B is pretty much based on S400. Its just that S400 fires two missiles against one target hence increasing the chance of successful interception.

where did you get that idea?

HQ9B was tested years before china got the S400.

 

[araz]

They had it on Super Entendard but why not on the current leading Rafale & Mirage previously? You are not getting the point. Do you think they or Chinese will compromise on such disadvantages, if they are?

The weight of the retractable probe , the complexity and therefore the cost are factors which formulated the reason for fixed probe. It imposes little or no restriction on vision as well as increase in RCS of the platform.
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[The Terminator]

Boo-Yah!!!

If I had his address, i'd send him a box of Cuban Cigars.

He would really love to have them. As per his own words, he enjoyed the venerable Cuban cigars gifted to the then President Musharraf by none other than Fiedel Castro himself. He would love them.

And I think he is the most easy political leader to track. Could be seen unexpectedly at random locations of Rawalpindi streets or especially in Lal haveli that everyone knows.

Have no idea what impact of this acquisition will have on future export prospects of JF-17. I have this feeling that PAF had to get it in order to get full version of PL-15s.

Or maybe JF-17s radar coverage range couldn't fully exploit the capabilities of the PL15 missiles! Especially against a tricky target like Rafale.

 

[The Terminator]

Have no idea what impact of this acquisition will have on future export prospects of JF-17. I have this feeling that PAF had to get it in order to get full version of PL-15s.

Or maybe JF-17s radar coverage range couldn't fully exploit the capabilities of the PL15 missiles! Especially against a tricky target like Rafale.

There is no J-10D version available for export yet. What Pakistan bought is probably J-10CE but more tailored for PAF. This doesn't mean it is a better version of J-10CE or a tailored to be cheaper version. We don't know much about the purchase.

J-10D was rumored on Chinese forums as either something that was speculated to be a PAF version of J-10CE or as a new block upgrade from J-10C.

It is very lucky PAF can train against Rafale and possibly even gain some sensitive insight although I doubt Qatar would allow this even if it is friends with friends this sort of revealing everything is rarely done or done with a high price. Still being able to learn some things about Rafale is good for PAF. The Indians have best version of Rafale which Egypt and Qatar do not use.

Indians have best version! How so? UAE is gonna get Rafale F4 which India doesn't have any.

And for Qatar's part, it's just a sheer luck for Pakistan that Turkey has to prepare against Rafales at the most convenient time too, obviously due to the Greece reason. PAF got a free hitchhike due to Turks in the mean time. As Turks are naturally our best possible allies we might ever get.

Qatar gets to great lengths in order to strengthen it's ties with Turkey, unlike the "brotherly" KSA, which imposed severe conditions upon Pakistan for a few Billion $$, Qatar injected dozen Billion $$$ into Turkish economy just to support their declining lira value. And that too without a single question asked.

J-10 was pretty clear and obvious. If you want to take a shot, take it on J-15s and JH-7s? So?

And the wishlist continues ..... !!!

 

[Falcon26]

Or maybe JF-17s radar coverage range couldn't fully exploit the capabilities of the PL15 missiles! Especially against a tricky target like Rafale.
Indians have best version! How so? UAE is gonna get Rafale F4 which India doesn't have any.

And for Qatar's part, it's just a sheer luck for Pakistan that Turkey has to prepare against Rafales at the most convenient time too, obviously due to the Greece reason. PAF got a free hitchhike due to Turks in the mean time. As Turks are naturally our best possible allies we might ever get.

Qatar gets to great lengths in order to strengthen it's ties with Turkey, unlike the "brotherly" KSA, which imposed severe conditions upon Pakistan for a few Billion $$, Qatar injected dozen Billion $$$ into Turkish economy just to support their declining lira value. And that too without a single question asked.

And the wishlist continues ..... !!!

Pakistan, Qatar and Turkey should have an annual exercise to be hosted in Turkey. Rafale, S400, J-10c, and J-17 backed by Erieyes and DA-20s should all be on the menu.

 

[WinterFangs]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1476828439130869760

 

[jupiter2007]

Didn’t Nawaz Sharief who made the deal for J-10c with China? Lol Patwaris can confirm it .

 

[Skywalker]

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with all the missile intact, looks photoshopped to me.