PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Bossman]

This also means end of an era for f16s
No more f16 will come even if they are offered now(an impossibilty)

Don’t count them out. If surplus F16s with MLU are offered PAF will pick them up very fast. Even with the new JF17s and J10s, there are another 100+ obsolete aircraft mostly Mirages that need replacement. F16s might still be the best option.

 

[Blueskiez 2001]

J-10c

My qualified quess was J-10c on the 3rd august 2020....

 

[Bilal.]

Very important point you’ve raised here actually, India might have made a major mistake in this regard, I’m not sure if they’ve already placed a follow up order for more Rafales after their initial 36, but if they haven’t then they won’t be getting any more till *post 2027* due to all the other countries that have made their orders. This could be a very major factor in defining the future of air power in the region. Again, this all depends on wether india has already made a follow up order or not.


Where did he say that it needs or has TVC.

I don’t think a follow up order has been placed by india.

 

[Trailer23]

I don’t think a follow up order has been placed by india.

Not yet it hasn't.

Plus there is a matter of Rafales OR F-18 Block III for their Navy.

Currently the figure of 25 is rumored for J-10's. However, some have stated the number to go up between 50 to 100.

I can honestly say that 50 is the number I got. Anyone else out there that can shed some light on the orders...

 

[Raider 21]

Not yet it hasn't.

Plus there is a matter of Rafales OR F-18 Block III for their Navy.

Currently the figure of 25 is rumored for J-10's. However, some have stated the number to go up between 50 to 100.

I can honestly say that 50 is the number I got. Anyone else out there that can shed some light on the orders...

50 is the number I heard as well, based on a very recent deal. Financed by loans from the Chinese.

 

[Aesterix]

My qualified quess was J-10c on the 3rd august 2020....

Ofcourse...

 

[ziaulislam]

Not yet it hasn't.

Plus there is a matter of Rafales OR F-18 Block III for their Navy.

Currently the figure of 25 is rumored for J-10's. However, some have stated the number to go up between 50 to 100.

I can honestly say that 50 is the number I got. Anyone else out there that can shed some light on the orders...

I think 50 is probably right
This will keep the numbers at 125 frontline and 200-250 jf17s

I still beleive PAF will keep mirage V in 1-2 squardons for strategic role

They will probably stay till 2030

 

[AeroEngineer]

JF-17 is not a departure as it stands for Joint Fighter.

Departure in the sense of nomenclature scheme. In the standard scheme the letter preceding the main mission designation, denotes modified mission such as UH-1 Huey where U stands for utility and H for Helicopter. I know the background why it’s named JF-17. I was just pointing out that from typical PAF practice of following US scheme, it was a departure

 

[Clutch]

No, this member claimed, they were "developed and used" on J-10s, however we haven't seen a CFT on any J-10 not even on a testbed, so it is IMO most unlikely.




It is ... indeed it is my friend and as expected powered by WS-10B engines!

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How do know it the WS-10B?

 

[jaybird]

How do know it the WS-10B?

WS-10B engine have more of a silver color and different petal compared to AL-31F.

Anyone who doubted Shaikh Rasheed Ahmed and Zarvan must apologize now. They are proving right this time.

 

[帅的一匹]

I was talking about J10 in PAF since many years, finally proved right. PAF had eye on J10 for long but only issue was engines as putting all engines from Russia was deemed too risky so waited when Chinese alternative got matured enough.

My wish for future CAC and PAC collaborate to develop a silenet version of J10 if not full stealth with single WS-15 engine but side intakes and incorporate as much subsystems and avionics as possible from J20. So it will be a medium weight single engine semi stealth air superiority with secondary role of striker. And it will superb if it can have an internal bay for two bvraam and at least one air launch cruise missile with a small or tactical nuclear war head. May be I am asking too much.

A single engine design stealthy fighter powered by WS15 is the way to go of PAF in the future. I think PAF will strengthen its cooperation with CAC even further.

 

[ahtan_china]

The engine/WS-10 is made in China is OK for J-10CP
巴基斯坦歼-10CP来了，涂装国旗都已经上了！国产太行发动机，全国产配置
即将交付巴基斯坦的歼-10CP终于出现了，垂直尾翼上刷有巴基斯坦国旗和机号。不过从涂装整体效果来看和国内使用的歼-10C基本一致，国旗机号都做了低可视处理。3月23日的就是巴基斯坦国庆阅兵了，之前说这批歼-10C将亮相阅兵，还有一个月多一点的时间，进度也是比较紧张，还有后期培训什么的。
和“枭龙”的“拼凑”不同，歼-10CP用的是国产WS-10“太行”发动机，而且之前航空工业航宇集团为巴基斯坦空军进行过弹射座椅培训。也就是说出口的歼-10CP全国产化而非巴基斯坦进行了选配。

 

[Aesterix]

These are mos5 likely to join NO.7 and No.15 squadrons, the bandits and cobras ( although I rather have them named more desi or islamic).
These will replace Mirages , not F-16 .
So most likely will get equipped with Raad ALCM.

 

[TheSolution]

What 5th generation does everyone think India will go for? Domestic or Russian? Or perhaps American?

 

[Zarvan]

Shouldn't you wait till Surprise Day 2.0?

The pictures are already out. On 27th Feb when we would reveal them INSHALLAH Indian media will for sure report then also