Now what for PAF JH7B or SU 35, but both will be a psychological edge over our adversary

[Zain Malik]

Hi,

No--it is not discouraging my nation---but to get the head out the a----ole that it is stuck in.

hmmm...

 

[Humble Analyst]

Respectfully boss, no!



First choice all the way!



Maybe Zain, you just don't get it that it may not be PAF's job alone to counter Bharati Rafales.

Matching PAF to IAF numbers will never happen, I repeat : never!
A strong ground based air defense is feasible for Pakistan. North of Kamra & Risalpur, jets will
be needed but for the rest of the Indian border, better longer ranged missiles will do just as well.

Then there are options like politics! If Pakistan doesn't intend to attack India again or soon,
it can use friendships with other states to lower the menace quite effectively at a lower cost.

As last resort, there's always peace! If no two-front war materializes in the next 3 decades,
India will have paid infamous French costs for nothing ... in which case, let's hope for them that the ToT will have gone well?

And that's just a quick sketch, there are many complementary options.

And a great day all, Tay.

Really?

 

[Kakaspai]

China are not allowed to sell any of their flanker variants.

but they got the su33 from ukraine

 

[Humble Analyst]

We are acquiring these weapons ONLY to prevent a war

The Biggest deterrent for war is to be PREPARED for War

Once you have more than you need you tend to use them and you are acquiring them for more than peaceful puposes.

 

[Dalit]

The options for PAF regarding a 4.5 gen jet is now Shrinking having Rafale deal finalized by India and SAAB and USA already lobbying for there Grippen and F-16s and F-18s. Our entire inventory is obsolete in front of rafale and to tackle that and maintain a reasonable balance of power there are two most attractive options for PAF now.

1. JH7B
2. SU35

JH7B is easy to acquire, few tweaks for PAF and a complete strike fighter with a massive radar excellent fuel carrying capacity is ready to unleash hell on enemy, can strike deep into enemy territory with hell lot of bombing load. JH7B can perform naval missions perfectly no need to modify JF17, JH7B is already ready for this roll.

SU35 can come to Pakistan now, bright chances after mmrca deal is now done. we can go to Russia and acquire this jet. If India can reject Russian Jets, Its a good time to make some diplomatic moves and make arrangements to get this amazing jet.

- Aqcuire the Su-35 or J-10C multi role heavy fighter. Be it (initially) in smaller numbers depending on purchasing power. Increase the number as per demand;
- Continue to churn out newer Block JF-17s;
- Continue to develop and enhance newer weapon systems and avionics for JF-17;
- Continue to develop and enhance a strong nuclear triad capability;
- Save capital and resources for the acquisition of a 5th gen aircraft in the future;


This is the roadmap to strengthening Pakistan in the short and longterm without unnecessarily burdening the economy and resources.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Once you have more than you need you tend to use them and you are acquiring them for more than peaceful puposes.

We have said it very clearly and OFFICIALLY that our Military Aim is to Fight a TWO FRONT WAR

ie IF India is attacked by Both China and Pakistan together

we INTEND to fight rather than Beg to USA for Help

Secondly and more importantly as far as India Pakistan are concerned

We dont want even ONE inch of your land
But we will never give you Kashmir

And these terror attacks will lead to WAR one day

 

[Sankpal]

j10 f16 and jf 17 only options for pakistan now.................... should be better to get sab jas 39 gripen fighter................ not possible to get f35 and su 35

 

[T-72M1]

but they got the su33 from ukraine

ok I didn't know that, still, as far as China goes, I'm pretty sure they can not sell their flanker variants to any third party.

maybe @Chinese-Dragon @SinoSoldier and @Deino can shed some light on the matter.

 

[Humble Analyst]

We have said it very clearly and OFFICIALLY that our Military Aim is to Fight a TWO FRONT WAR

ie IF India is attacked by Both China and Pakistan together

we INTEND to fight rather than Beg to USA for Help

Secondly and more importantly as far as India Pakistan are concerned

We dont want even ONE inch of your land
But we will never give you Kashmir

And these terror attacks will lead to WAR one day

What about the terrorists activities you are sponsoring in Pakistan? What will they lead to? Peace for the region?

 

[Taygibay]

Who will told India how to live happy and peacefully.....???

Maybe circumstances, little brother! Extreme economic distress or success for instance?
In either case, Bharat will be too busy to wage a real war counterproductive to its cashflow.

Or maybe India will make a new fixation, grow an old one ( think China but by sea ) and
divert its gaze?

A good national plan would play and push for all these scenarii and don't show your cards!

We are acquiring these weapons ONLY to prevent a war

The Biggest deterrent for war is to be PREPARED for War

Parabellum, I know!
But if you get better weapons than the inflatable neighbour, prompting a defense reflex,
you may be preparing war itself as well as preparing for it.

Good day both, Tay.

 

[Dalit]

We have said it very clearly and OFFICIALLY that our Military Aim is to Fight a TWO FRONT WAR

ie IF India is attacked by Both China and Pakistan together

we INTEND to fight rather than Beg to USA for Help

Secondly and more importantly as far as India Pakistan are concerned

We dont want even ONE inch of your land
But we will never give you Kashmir

And these terror attacks will lead to WAR one day

We are ready for war anytime. We don't require fighter jets for that purpose as we have the ultimate weapons. We acquired the nuclear weapons for a reason. We are improving our nuclear capability day by day. We can now deploy tactical nuclear weapons on a short notice. The day India wages war, it will be wiped out. Be rest assured. The Rafales and Su-30s won't save India.

China is a different beast. India can't fight China. Not on the economic front. Neither militarily.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

We are ready for war anytime. We don't require fighter jets for that purpose as we have the ultimate weapons. We acquired the nuclear weapons for a reason. We are improving our nuclear capability day by day. We can now deploy tactical nuclear weapons on a short notice. The day India wages war, it will be wiped out. Be rest assured. The Rafales and Su-30s won't save India.

China is a different beast. India can't fight China.

See why do you NEED Fighter planes

You Bring OUT the NUKES in JUST ONE MINUTE

So why bother about Rafales

 

[muhammadali233]

We are acquiring these weapons ONLY to prevent a war

The Biggest deterrent for war is to be PREPARED for War

When Pakistan wants a War it will have War we wont judge your suit before coming to the party.
So you admit you were not prepared with having the best of the world i.e Su-30MKI and Tejas?

 

[Taygibay]

India can't fight China. Not on the economic front. Neither militarily.

The reverse is also true militarywise.

Tay.

 

[danger007]

You having reading comprehensions? We aren't bothered about Rafales curry boy. Like I said, we have the ultimate weapons to keep you veggies in check. You won't be laughing the day you wage war. A minute? For your kind I'll bring them out in a millisecond.

Good weapons... lol