Now what for PAF JH7B or SU 35, but both will be a psychological edge over our adversary

[Dalit]

The reverse is also true militarywise.

Tay.

So what is the point of this meaningless conversation? It is a checkmate.

Good weapons... lol

Good enough to wipe out curry suckers.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Ohhh man I cant believe that such people also exist......Plz don't reply my thread further I have bearded much and I don't want to report a Pakistani......

yo
So why are you waiting for just report me you are acting like insane kid you have no logic and fact.

 

[Taygibay]

So what is the point of this meaningless conversation? It is a checkmate.

Sort of fully agreed there! An India-China war makes no sense.
If it happens, I'll bet one of the two will have been pulled in!

Good day, Tay.

 

[Sankpal]

We are ready for war anytime. We don't require fighter jets for that purpose as we have the ultimate weapons. We acquired the nuclear weapons for a reason. We are improving our nuclear capability day by day. We can now deploy tactical nuclear weapons on a short notice. The day India wages war, it will be wiped out. Be rest assured. The Rafales and Su-30s won't save India.

China is a different beast. India can't fight China. Not on the economic front. Neither militarily.

Why?????????????????????

if say about India than why we can't say about China same thing?

Now thinks............ you will say I m out off mind because I saying about china-right?

same thing I thinks about you when u talk about nuclear only

As per me your words are not from strong person and country..... I dont like to use that kind of words.

We have right from any threat and I don't think this are PAK specific. Indian current assets are enough for PAK but we have other threats too.

Also I doon't think china and India war goona happen...................but we should be strong enough to protect ourself

 

[CHI RULES]

Respectfully boss, no!



First choice all the way!



Maybe Zain, you just don't get it that it may not be PAF's job alone to counter Bharati Rafales.

Matching PAF to IAF numbers will never happen, I repeat : never!
A strong ground based air defense is feasible for Pakistan. North of Kamra & Risalpur, jets will
be needed but for the rest of the Indian border, better longer ranged missiles will do just as well.

Then there are options like politics! If Pakistan doesn't intend to attack India again or soon,
it can use friendships with other states to lower the menace quite effectively at a lower cost.

As last resort, there's always peace! If no two-front war materializes in the next 3 decades,
India will have paid infamous French costs for nothing ... in which case, let's hope for them that the ToT will have gone well?

And that's just a quick sketch, there are many complementary options.

And a great day all, Tay.

Thks I am agreed with u regarding Air defense Pak should have three layer defense 1st near border having some low to medium radar coverage with short range SAMS like ANZA, Mistrals etc next Medium range having Chinese SAMS and upgraded Crotaels and SPADA. The last layer should and must have long range SAMS with AESA 3D Radars along with HQ 9 like SAMS.

 

[Dalit]

Sort of fully agreed there! An India-China war makes no sense.
If it happens, I'll bet one of the two will have been pulled in!

Good day, Tay.

As long as any side in this region has nuclear weapons, there won't and cannot be any war. No amount of Rafale and JF-17 can change that fact. This is all meaningless muscle flexing by people who really have no muscle to flex.

 

[Zain Malik]

yo
So why are you waiting for just report me you are acting like insane kid you have no logic and fact.

Who are you to explain my logics and my facts....Pta nahi kahan se uth k a jaate hain....

 

[CHI RULES]

As long as any side in this region has nuclear weapons, there won't and cannot be any war. No amount of Rafale and JF-17 can change that fact. This is all meaningless muscle flexing by people who really have no muscle to flex.

In limited border skirmishes or Kargil like situation the Airforce role is inevitable.

 

[Dalit]

Why?????????????????????

if say about India than why we can't say about China same thing?

Now thinks............ you will say I m out off mind because I saying about china-right?

same thing I thinks about you when u talk about nuclear only

As per me your words are not from strong person and country..... I dont like to use that kind of words.

We have right from any threat and I don't think this are PAK specific. Indian current assets are enough for PAK and we have other threats too.

Also I doon't think china and India war goona happen...................but we should be strong enough to protect ourself

You can think and say whatever you want. Your muscle flexing doesn't mean much really. You know that when push comes to shove things will be terrible. Like I said, no amount of Rafales won't save India.

In limited border skirmishes or Kargil like situation the Airforce role is inevitable.

LOL what good is a limited war? Haven't you fought three already? What did you achieve? Victory? Really? The last time I checked you are still busy buying and amassing weapons. For what? Another limited war? Then what are you going to do after that? Buy more weapons to fight another limited war? India has no purpose to fight limited wars which are meaningless and serve no real purpose. The truth is that India can't and won't achieve what it really wants. Pakistan is a reality. Borders are drawn. Deal with it.

 

[Silicon0000]

Calling this doctrine is putting the head in the sand like an ostrich. The real reason is because of our finances and lack of planning we cannot afford deep strike planes. Also we have become used to our comfort zone of having familiar planes, trained personnel and combat tactics training is same as well save a few tactics added as per new planes inducted by possible adversaries. Given the fact that we lack depth in terrain we need more than anybody else medium to deep strike platforms to prevent enemy from having air superiority within 24 hours of break of hostilities. If we do not think of this we will loose all the AWACS, Airborne tankers and forward operating bases. Our Army, Navy and civilians will be at the mercy of enemy planes. So please stop calling this doctrine. This is not doctrine it is pigeon closing the eyes seeing a cat and day dreaming calling it doctrine. What stops India is Nuclear capability and Air Force is not the real deterrent. We Pakistanis tend to be sentimental rather than practical like many other non practical nations who are not really ready for the real World.

How right PAF doctrine is, is different discussion, what I mean is that with our CURRENTLY AVAILABLE RESOURCES we have other requirements which is more important.


Right now we are strong enough to keep our enemy away from full flagged war.

Our current war needs are different, right now we need to improve JF17 with precision strike, better radar, better engine etc

For me heavys comes even after better missiles, better drones and good SAMs.


.

 

[Sankpal]

You can think and say whatever you want. Your muscle flexing doesn't mean much really. You know that when push comes to shove things will be terrible. Like I said, no amount of Rafales won't save India.

No bro............ not agreed.

I don't think war gonna happen in future and other issue will remain same i. e kashmir.

Nuke is just like show peace item..... no one will dare to use nuclear bomb. I m talking about PAK-India or China-India.

but other assets are also very important............[/QUOTE]

 

[ravi gupta]

We have said it very clearly and OFFICIALLY that our Military Aim is to Fight a TWO FRONT WAR

ie IF India is attacked by Both China and Pakistan together

we INTEND to fight rather than Beg to USA for Help

Secondly and more importantly as far as India Pakistan are concerned

We dont want even ONE inch of your land
But we will never give you Kashmir

And these terror attacks will lead to WAR one day

Dear Friend,Explain very well on behalf of all INDIAN.

 

[Dalit]

No bro............ not agreed.

I don't think war gonna happen in future and other issue will remain same i. e kashmir.

Nuke is just like show peace item..... no one will dare to use nuclear bomb. I m talking about PAK-India or China-India.

but other assets are also very important............

[/QUOTE]

You just keep buying other assets which will be biting dust. Meanwhile millions in your countries are dying due to poverty, hunger and disease. Shame on you and your other assets. Shame on your small thinking. Like I said, meaningless muscle flexing...

 

[Sankpal]

You just keep buying other assets which will be biting dust. Meanwhile millions in your countries are dying due to poverty, hunger and disease. Shame on you and your other assets. Shame on your small thinking. Like I said, meaningless muscle flexing...[/QUOTE]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Plsssssssssssssssss not again..............thanks for your concerns. hope u also have concerns about poverty, hunger and disease in pakistan.................thank u again

 

[Stephen Cohen]

You just keep buying other assets which will be biting dust. Meanwhile millions in your countries are dying due to poverty, hunger and disease. Shame on you and your other assets. Shame on your small thinking. Like I said, meaningless muscle flexing...

Our economy is FAR LARGER ;better and stronger than your economy

Our defence expenditure is just 2.5 Percent of our GDP

Our Growth rate is 7.5 Percent per annum

Our Forex reserves are 360 Billion dollars

So why SHOULD NOT we spend money on modern weapons

We are buying them ; NOT taking loans for these weapons