Raja.Pakistani
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Anyway, let's hope we can all unite under this.
under this
or under Islam
this is the point of debate here
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Anyway, let's hope we can all unite under this.
You have good point there but if Islam should be the basis of unity then all Muslims should be one irrespective of their countries/nationalities/ethnicities then attachment with one specific land don't make sense as per Islamic concept of brotherhood which don't see Muslim as black, white, arab, non Arab, Pakistani, Indian. Unity of Islam is based on Aqeedah not land then there will be no difference between Indian Muslim and Pakistani Muslim or between Pakistani Muslim or Afghani Muslim because they have same religion
You have good points there but if Islam should be the basis of unity then all Muslims should be one irrespective of their countries/nationalities/ethnicities then attachment with one specific land don't make sense as per Islamic concept of brotherhood which don't see Muslim as black, white, arab, non Arab, Pakistani, Indian. Unity of Islam is based on Aqeedah not land then there will be no difference between Indian Muslim and Pakistani Muslim or between Pakistani Muslim or Afghani/Irani Muslim because they have same religion
i saw you guys were talking about ethnicities and I knew where this was going...That's why I've been avoiding discussion recently
Anyway, let's hope we can all unite under this.
under this
or under Islam
this is the point of debate here
Ok m bored.
Professor Hoodhboy made a very profound point: "You can have people of all different backgrounds and beliefs coming to the same conclusion in science, you can never have two religous people agreeing". Religion is the worst paradigm to unite any people; the scope of interpretation is so vast that two persons will comprehend two condracting viewpoints from the same verses.
Right...I do take my apologies back ! Please continue.
This is Islam !
Good, remove your thanks from my posts as well.
And he is absolutely right because Science deals in facts (or as near to them as we can be) whereas Belief deals in abstracts ! But that is not to say that one cannot produce one's narrative before the people & ask them to decide. One would also do well do agree upon a reasonable limit as to where one draws the line.
As I've understood Professor Hoodhboy believes that because of our continued failures it is in fact our inherent inability to 'agree' or more so 'to agree to disagree' that we keep ricocheting between one failure & another. I believe it is the failure of our governance & the political immaturity of the masses that has propelled us from each failure to the other.
Ok m bored.
Professor Hoodhboy made a very profound point: "You can have people of all different backgrounds and beliefs coming to the same conclusion in science, you can never have two religous people agreeing". Religion is the worst paradigm to unite any people; the scope of interpretation is so vast that two persons will comprehend two condracting viewpoints from the same verses.
I'm confused, I thought the medina state and secularism were one and the same. Didn't everyone get treated equally despite their religion.
I'm too lazy...why don't you try deleting your posts instead !
Its not just about religion. Differences are there in almost everything even in atheism
And he is absolutely right because Science deals in facts (or as near to them as we can be) whereas Belief deals in abstracts ! But that is not to say that one cannot produce one's narrative before the people & ask them to decide. One would also do well do agree upon a reasonable limit as to where one draws the line.
I am not a senior member yet, I don't have the ability to do that.