Naswar Corner

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

I am from the same caste as Pir-e-Roshan was

He was one of my ancestors - the guy who started Pushto prose

Then either you are ansaari or burki

 

[Ticker]

Or a Danishment from central Turkey who fought and defeated the second crusade.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Hmmm, really? I thought Pashtun was by blood. If we go by "Pashtun only by language" then that means out of the 30-40- million Pashtuns, only 11-12 million are Pashtun while all rest are not Pashtun anymore?? So then what are they? And what about the non-Pashtuns who speak Pashtu? Do they become Pashtuns?

Funny, because i was watching a American military documentary in which a black female American soldier was conversing with Afghans in fluent Pashto, i'm guessing she automatically became a "Pashtun" , while us blood Pashtuns who have the misfortune of not speaking Pashto are now categorized as "non-Pashtuns". Did Imran Khan also receive this latest news that he is no longer a Pashtun?

The Pashto speakers in the world are about 45 million. If you add those who have lost pashto but have pashtun ancestry to it, then pathan population would reach upto 80-90 millions. Infact if you split pakistani population racially e.g into pathans, jats, awans, rajputs, balochs, turks, arabs etc then pashtuns would become most numerous racial group of Pakistan. In afghanistan the pashto speakers form 42% of population but if you add farsified pashtuns to them then their percentage exceeds 60%.
Even Pakistanis in general consider non-pashto speaking pathans as "naqli", fake. Take the example of irfan pathan, he is called fake pathan by pakistanis even though he belongs to a pathan community of gujrat.
Following notables are pathans by ancestry but nobody call them pashtuns,
1- maulana mohammad ali jauhar and shaukat ali jauher (rohilla pathans)
2- Nawab bahadur yar jang (kakezai)
3- Sir sikandar hayat khan of unionist party punjab
4- Maulana abdul kalam azad
5- zakir hussain, former indian president (afridi of india)
6- Josh malih abdadi, urdu poet
8- urdu witers like mushtaq ahmad yousafi, Ashfaq ahmad.
9- cricketers like intikhab alam, abdul qadir, javed burki....
the list is very long...........
Reh gai baat imran khan ki , he belongs to Niazi tribe of mianwali, who are seriakized pashtuns....they are transitional group like pathans of hazara......they derive their culture both from punjab and kpk...Niazis have lost pashto but they have retained pashtunwali and tribal framework (qaum, khel, khul, clan)...I have been to mianwali several times, though their mother tongue is seraiki, many of them can understand and speak pashto.....
Langauge is such strong factor in shaping idenity, niazis of mianwali want to join seraikistan rather KPK. Hindko speaking pathans of hazara want their own province rather than sticking with kpk. Even the bilingual pashtun tribes of DIkhan (gandapurs, babars, miankhels etc) want to join seraikistan.

 

[Zaidi 12]

Shooorrrryyyyyyyyy dear I had to go...

 

[Zaidi 12]

RIP !

maar bhi diya

 

[Zaidi 12]

Oooo DON

 

[Ticker]

The Pashto speakers in the world are about 45 million. If you add those who have lost pashto but have pashtun ancestry to it, then pathan population would reach upto 80-90 millions. Infact if you split pakistani population racially e.g into pathans, jats, awans, rajputs, balochs, turks, arabs etc then pashtuns would become most numerous racial group of Pakistan. In afghanistan the pashto speakers form 42% of population but if you add farsified pashtuns to them then their percentage exceeds 60%.
Even Pakistanis in general consider non-pashto speaking pathans as "naqli", fake. Take the example of irfan pathan, he is called fake pathan by pakistanis even though he belongs to a pathan community of gujrat.
Following notables are pathans by ancestry but nobody call them pashtuns,
1- maulana mohammad ali jauhar and shaukat ali jauher (rohilla pathans)
2- Nawab bahadur yar jang (kakezai)
3- Sir sikandar hayat khan of unionist party punjab
4- Maulana abdul kalam azad
5- zakir hussain, former indian president (afridi of india)
6- Josh malih abdadi, urdu poet
8- urdu witers like mushtaq ahmad yousafi, Ashfaq ahmad.
9- cricketers like intikhab alam, abdul qadir, javed burki....
the list is very long...........
Reh gai baat imran khan ki , he belongs to Niazi tribe of mianwali, who are seriakized pashtuns....they are transitional group like pathans of hazara......they derive their culture both from punjab and kpk...Niazis have lost pashto but they have retained pashtunwali and tribal framework (qaum, khel, khul, clan)...I have been to mianwali several times, though their mother tongue is seraiki, many of them can understand and speak pashto.....
Langauge is such strong factor in shaping idenity, niazis of mianwali want to join seraikistan rather KPK. Hindko speaking pathans of hazara want their own province rather than sticking with kpk. Even the bilingual pashtun tribes of DIkhan (gandapurs, babars, miankhels etc) want to join seraikistan.

The importance of parent language should never be lost and should not be undermined. But narrowing it to establishing an identity amounts to losing the large number of people who do have a blood line linked to the identity. This is narrow thinking. In my opinion the large Pathan Diaspora who do not speak Pushto language should not be lost because of their inability to speak the language. Infact, efforts may be made to take this beautiful language to them so that they are brought back within its fold, rather than cutting them off permanently due to their inability to converse in the same.

Just imagine, the advantages accrued when such a large number of these left out people is brought within this fold and the strengths that they bring with them. This would not only enhance the diversity of the existing people but will help in its further preserving the cultural homogenization.

A culture which does not infuse fresh blood and thinking, ultimately dies out in itself.

 

[Ticker]

Shooorrrryyyyyyyyy dear I had to go...

Abhi usay feeder mein doodh bhi pila do. Phir ulta kar kay kamar pe thapki bhi dedo taakay wo dakar maar ke so jaye.

 

[Arsalan]

Zoq-e-Deed Mein Hy Takleef hr Roz Sara’sar
“Mohsin”
Achy rehte Hn Wahi Log Jo Mohabbat Nahi Karte

 

[kumarkumar1867]

Zoq-e-Deed Mein Hy Takleef hr Roz Sara’sar
“Mohsin”
Achy rehte Hn Wahi Log Jo Mohabbat Nahi Karte

Mana Ke Teri Deed K Qaabil Nahii Hoon Main

Tu Mera Shouq Dekh Mera Intzaar Dekh!!

 

[Armstrong]

Or a Danishment from central Turkey who fought and defeated the second crusade.

Khan Sahib Allah jissseeei lambiii zindagiyii deinn na chahiyee ussee deitaa hai but thats pushing it !

 

[Armstrong]

The importance of parent language should never be lost and should not be undermined. But narrowing it to establishing an identity amounts to losing the large number of people who do have a blood line linked to the identity. This is narrow thinking. In my opinion the large Pathan Diaspora who do not speak Pushto language should not be lost because of their inability to speak the language. Infact, efforts may be made to take this beautiful language to them so that they are brought back within its fold, rather than cutting them off permanently due to their inability to converse in the same.

Just imagine, the advantages accrued when such a large number of these left out people is brought within this fold and the strengths that they bring with them. This would not only enhance the diversity of the existing people but will help in its further preserving the cultural homogenization.

A culture which does not infuse fresh blood and thinking, ultimately dies out in itself.

Most of the Pathan Diaspora is in 'Punjab' ! They're Punjabis baby...Punjabis !

 

[Ticker]

Khan Sahib Allah jissseeei lambiii zindagiyii deinn na chahiyee ussee deitaa hai but thats pushing it !

I said it before here as well that I belong to Mehrgarh (7000 BCE).

Yahan aur bhi bahot si purani aatmayein maujud hein - I am not the only one.

 

[Zaidi 12]

I said it before here as well that I belong to Mehrgarh )7000 BCE).

Yahan aur bhi bahot si purani aatmayein maujud hein - I am not the only one.

 

[Armstrong]

Zaidi apa, so what are you ? A pathan ? A punjabi ? Or a Kashmiri ?