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Maoists are 'patriot of a kind': Arundhati

:agree: the Orissa tribals (supported her) infact handled BJP goons quite well by hurling shoes on those BJP goons who were protesting Arundhati's arrival there. The

And the lady has enough courage to tell the media that BJP has the right to protest and she has the right to speak the truth so she didnt mind those goons' protest ;)

So the tribals living under so called under sub Saharan conditions have shoes that too spare to throw at their fancy meetings? :devil:
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will not repeal its controversial blasphemy law but may amend it to prevent abuse because scrapping the legislation could fuel militancy, a government minister said on Tuesday.

The law, which carries the death penalty for insulting Islam or its Prophet Mohammad, has come under the spotlight this month after a court sentenced a Christian mother of four, Asia Bibi, to death in a case stemming from a village dispute.

Widespread media attention on the case has led to renewed appeals by human rights groups for the repeal of the law but Minister for Minorities Shahbaz Bhatti said that would not happen.

“(Repeal) is not being considered though we are considering changing it so that misuse of the law should be stopped,” Bhatti told Reuters.

The law enjoys widespread support in Pakistan, which is more than 95 per cent Muslim, and politicians are loathe to be seen as soft on the defense of the religion.

Blasphemy convictions are common although the death sentence has never been carried out. Most convictions are thrown out on appeal, but angry mobs have killed many people accused of blasphemy.

Bhatti said consultations with Islamic clerics and representatives of religious minorities on amending the law would soon be held.

He said repealing it was not being considered because that could provoke religious parties and militants who want to topple the pro-US civilian government


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Why you are so concerned brain_dead (a banned member) that you came up with another ID just to discuss me :lol:One can feel the desperation in your post.

The abusive language bhartiyas use for Arundhati and anyone who points Indian ills, is evidence of low self-esteem in you not us.

Its bharathi **** and not bharithya.....and does anyone critisising india becomes your brother or what....such hatred is not good...

We can see how much civilized India today is with many inhuman/unhygienic practices, we also know the poverty rate, the literacy rate and other such relevant things. So the bottom line is you are no better than us.

I may agree with the last line....we both are in dirt considering human devlopment index.....but we unlike you accept it and try to come out of it
 
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If she was in a maoist rule she wouldn't even stay alive if she criticise them..as somebody pointed out (don't remember the person) she is now looking for a nobel prize..that's all.
 
If Ashfaqulla Khan, Chandrasekhar Azad, Thakur Roshan Singh, Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Bhagawati Charan, Rajguru Rai Ram Narain and Govind Prasad were patriots then Maoist are patriots too.
 
how do fight for survival by ensuring a wipe out through terrorist activities? That's like saying Timothy McVeigh was a patriot in the US for the Oklahoma bombing. Or saying blacks may have right to a violent uprising based on their grievances in the US. Or Muslims in the US have a right to a violent uprising because the negative views amongst a small percentage of US citizens.

In a democracy, violence is not the way to ensure ones goals. take it to the court and through the judicial system- certainly if you can afford to have arms, you have the cash on hand to fight it out in the judicial system. Mind you India is not a dictatorship, its a democracy ...

Perhaps your education disallows you to comprehend the English word “survival”.

Would Timothy McVeigh be in extinction if he did not set off the bomb?

Are the Muslims in US not able to live as their neighbors?

The fact in India is that many farmers’ only choice is to commit suicide:

India: 1,500 Farmers Commit Suicide

3rd farmer suicide in 2 weeks - The Times of India

Indian Cotton Farmer Suicides, Pesticides and Fashion The Comment Factory


Most Maoists are just fighting for their survival. They get disillusioned with India political system, as your democracy's only stipend for them is to commit suicide. :taz:
 
If Ashfaqulla Khan, Chandrasekhar Azad, Thakur Roshan Singh, Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Bhagawati Charan, Rajguru Rai Ram Narain and Govind Prasad were patriots then Maoist are patriots too.

When did the martyrs u have listed killed children in cold blood or when did they indulge in illegal mining with revenues touching 2000 crores or when did they kill innocent civilians in the pursuit of the lust for power.

Yeah I understand that u may be bleeding heart liberal who knows nothing about the atrocities these faggots have perperated among he common tribals and villages...but then imbecility too has a limit.:hitwall:
 
Another worthless statement from a worthless lady!

And here we are discussing this to death with a few Pakistanis who like to make sweeping statements about india and it's socio economic matrix like experts when the reality is they know diddley squat!

Reminds me of a poster called as Titanium____ who used to jump in every thread with even the slightest hint of DRDO faliure and never ever showed his face in any thread about a DRDO success.

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A nice example is this quote from a post just after the next one....

Now, local people are democratically select the Maoists, why your proclaimed democratic government does not allow them to self-govern themselves, instead inhumanly suppresses the Maoists and aggravates the exploitation?

The poster knows NOTHING about AP or telangana or India and yet he is talking like the next Rajat Kapoor!
 
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When did the martyrs u have listed killed children in cold blood or when did they indulge in illegal mining with revenues touching 2000 crores or when did they kill innocent civilians in the pursuit of the lust for power.

Yeah I understand that u may be bleeding heart liberal who knows nothing about the atrocities these faggots have perperated among he common tribals and villages...but then imbecility too has a limit.:hitwall:
police/army kills civilians/children and put blame on maoist.
 
58% in AP say Naxalism is good, finds TOI poll

India's biggest internal security threat, as the Prime Minister famously described it, may be worse than you thought. That's because even in Andhra Pradesh, where the battle against the Maoists has apparently been won, it turns out that the government is losing the battle for the minds and hearts of the people.

It's a debate that's been raging within the Congress, and outside it. Should the government adopt a largely law-and-order attitude towards the Maoists and deal with them like criminals or should the focus be more on cutting the ground from under their feet through a development agenda that wins over the population of the affected areas?

An exclusive survey of the once Maoist-dominated districts of the Telengana region by IMRB, well-known market research organisation, for The Times of India has found that while attitudes towards the rebels are ambivalent, the condemnation of the government and its means of tackling the problem is quite clear.

The findings raise disturbing questions about whether focusing largely on the policing aspects of the problem may be a flawed strategy in the long run. They also throw up another poser: Has the battle in AP truly been won or can the Maoists stage a comeback in a few years?

Tied to this is the question of how the Maoists are viewed by the populace of these parts. Are they perceived essentially as a bloodthirsty, extortionist bunch or as rebels standing up for people's rights?

TOI decided to do an opinion poll of the affected areas to find out. The problem, however, was that this was a region where pollsters found very difficult to enter. We finally decided to conduct the survey in those areas of Andhra Pradesh which were till not too long ago strongholds of the Naxalites but where their activities have been checked. The survey was conducted, therefore, in five districts of the Telengana region Adilabad, Nizamabad, Karimnagar, Warangal and Khammam. These districts were chosen not only because they were till recently severely Naxal-affected, but also because of their proximity to current hotbeds in Chattisgarh and Maharashtra.

To tap into the mood of the aam admi in these areas, the survey was restricted to the not so well off socio-economic categories, SEC B and SEC C and to men and women between the ages of 25 and 50. What we found has come as an eye-opener for us and should be worrying for everybody. The state may have won the battle of the guns, but the Maoists are clearly ahead in the perception game. This is particularly true in the districts of Warangal and Nizamabad as the accompanying charts show only too clearly.

The root cause of the disaffection is the overwhelming feeling of neglect of the areas by the government. About two-thirds expressed this view and in Warangal the figure was as high as 81%. That, you might say, is hardly alarming. Similar figures would probably be thrown up anywhere in India. True. But when two-thirds also say that the Maoists are right in choosing the methods they have to highlight the neglect, it is difficult to dismiss it as normal.

Perhaps the most revealing answers are in response to questions on whether the Maoists — still better known as Naxalites in this belt — were good or bad for the region and whether their defeat by the AP police has made matters better or worse.

Almost 60% said the Naxalites were good :bounce: for the area and only 34% felt life had improved since they were beaten back. As for whether exploitation has increased after the Naxalite influence waned, 48% said it had against 38% who said it hadn't, the rest offering no opinion.

Those answers are buttressed by the responses to three other questions. The first of these was on whether the characterization of the Naxals as extortionists and mafia was accurate. Two-thirds disagreed. An elaboration of this came in response to a slightly more open-ended question. Over half said the Naxalites worked for the good of the area, another one-third said they had the right intentions but the wrong means. Only 15% were willing to describe them as just goondas.

Equally importantly, 50% of the respondents felt the Naxalites had forced the government to focus on development work in the affected areas. What these responses show is just how negative the perception of the government is in these parts.

That the people here are not entirely comfortable with Naxalite methods is also quite clear. Even a question on what explained their strength in these parts showed that very few attributed it to popularity alone, a majority saying either that it was due to fear or that it was a combination of approval and fear. That despite this ambivalence there is a sympathetic view of the Naxals only betrays the people's desperate search for any means to shake shaking up the state.

Given these findings it is hardly surprising that killings by Maoists are looked upon more leniently than those by the government and that the state's claims about encounters are viewed with extreme suspicion.

The government may say, and with some justification, that the Maoists represent the biggest threat to India's internal security, but what this poll shows is that the aam admi in these parts views government apathy as the biggest threat to his wellbeing.

The towns in which the poll was conducted were Kamareddy in Nizamabad district, Gudi Hathnoor in Adilabad, Sirsilla in Karimnagar, Mahbubabad in Warangal and Palwancha in Khammam. A total of 521 people were polled in these five towns, a statistically robust sample size.


58% in AP say Naxalism is good, finds TOI poll - The Times of India

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Clearly, Maoists are more patriot than elected democratic Indian government.

More regional people support their Maoists, and against democratic GoI. Whenever and whererever Maoists were defeated, exploitation is increased. Thus, there is no wonder that people love Maoists than your democratic government that is only good at corruption, exploitation and negligence in these areas.

Now, local people are democratically select the Maoists, why your proclaimed democratic government does not allow them to self-govern themselves, instead inhumanly suppresses the Maoists and aggravates the exploitation? :tdown:
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will not repeal its controversial blasphemy law but may amend it to prevent abuse because scrapping the legislation could fuel militancy, a government minister said on Tuesday.

The law, which carries the death penalty for insulting Islam or its Prophet Mohammad, has come under the spotlight this month after a court sentenced a Christian mother of four, Asia Bibi, to death in a case stemming from a village dispute.

Widespread media attention on the case has led to renewed appeals by human rights groups for the repeal of the law but Minister for Minorities Shahbaz Bhatti said that would not happen.

“(Repeal) is not being considered though we are considering changing it so that misuse of the law should be stopped,” Bhatti told Reuters.

The law enjoys widespread support in Pakistan, which is more than 95 per cent Muslim, and politicians are loathe to be seen as soft on the defense of the religion.

Blasphemy convictions are common although the death sentence has never been carried out. Most convictions are thrown out on appeal, but angry mobs have killed many people accused of blasphemy.

Bhatti said consultations with Islamic clerics and representatives of religious minorities on amending the law would soon be held.

He said repealing it was not being considered because that could provoke religious parties and militants who want to topple the pro-US civilian government


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What does this have to do with the topic? Thanks for trolling :cheers:
 
58% in AP say Naxalism is good, finds TOI poll

India's biggest internal security threat, as the Prime Minister famously described it, may be worse than you thought. That's because even in Andhra Pradesh, where the battle against the Maoists has apparently been won, it turns out that the government is losing the battle for the minds and hearts of the people.

It's a debate that's been raging within the Congress, and outside it. Should the government adopt a largely law-and-order attitude towards the Maoists and deal with them like criminals or should the focus be more on cutting the ground from under their feet through a development agenda that wins over the population of the affected areas?

An exclusive survey of the once Maoist-dominated districts of the Telengana region by IMRB, well-known market research organisation, for The Times of India has found that while attitudes towards the rebels are ambivalent, the condemnation of the government and its means of tackling the problem is quite clear.

The findings raise disturbing questions about whether focusing largely on the policing aspects of the problem may be a flawed strategy in the long run. They also throw up another poser: Has the battle in AP truly been won or can the Maoists stage a comeback in a few years?

Tied to this is the question of how the Maoists are viewed by the populace of these parts. Are they perceived essentially as a bloodthirsty, extortionist bunch or as rebels standing up for people's rights?

TOI decided to do an opinion poll of the affected areas to find out. The problem, however, was that this was a region where pollsters found very difficult to enter. We finally decided to conduct the survey in those areas of Andhra Pradesh which were till not too long ago strongholds of the Naxalites but where their activities have been checked. The survey was conducted, therefore, in five districts of the Telengana region Adilabad, Nizamabad, Karimnagar, Warangal and Khammam. These districts were chosen not only because they were till recently severely Naxal-affected, but also because of their proximity to current hotbeds in Chattisgarh and Maharashtra.

To tap into the mood of the aam admi in these areas, the survey was restricted to the not so well off socio-economic categories, SEC B and SEC C and to men and women between the ages of 25 and 50. What we found has come as an eye-opener for us and should be worrying for everybody. The state may have won the battle of the guns, but the Maoists are clearly ahead in the perception game. This is particularly true in the districts of Warangal and Nizamabad as the accompanying charts show only too clearly.

The root cause of the disaffection is the overwhelming feeling of neglect of the areas by the government. About two-thirds expressed this view and in Warangal the figure was as high as 81%. That, you might say, is hardly alarming. Similar figures would probably be thrown up anywhere in India. True. But when two-thirds also say that the Maoists are right in choosing the methods they have to highlight the neglect, it is difficult to dismiss it as normal.

Perhaps the most revealing answers are in response to questions on whether the Maoists — still better known as Naxalites in this belt — were good or bad for the region and whether their defeat by the AP police has made matters better or worse.

Almost 60% said the Naxalites were good :bounce: for the area and only 34% felt life had improved since they were beaten back. As for whether exploitation has increased after the Naxalite influence waned, 48% said it had against 38% who said it hadn't, the rest offering no opinion.

Those answers are buttressed by the responses to three other questions. The first of these was on whether the characterization of the Naxals as extortionists and mafia was accurate. Two-thirds disagreed. An elaboration of this came in response to a slightly more open-ended question. Over half said the Naxalites worked for the good of the area, another one-third said they had the right intentions but the wrong means. Only 15% were willing to describe them as just goondas.

Equally importantly, 50% of the respondents felt the Naxalites had forced the government to focus on development work in the affected areas. What these responses show is just how negative the perception of the government is in these parts.

That the people here are not entirely comfortable with Naxalite methods is also quite clear. Even a question on what explained their strength in these parts showed that very few attributed it to popularity alone, a majority saying either that it was due to fear or that it was a combination of approval and fear. That despite this ambivalence there is a sympathetic view of the Naxals only betrays the people's desperate search for any means to shake shaking up the state.

Given these findings it is hardly surprising that killings by Maoists are looked upon more leniently than those by the government and that the state's claims about encounters are viewed with extreme suspicion.

The government may say, and with some justification, that the Maoists represent the biggest threat to India's internal security, but what this poll shows is that the aam admi in these parts views government apathy as the biggest threat to his wellbeing.

The towns in which the poll was conducted were Kamareddy in Nizamabad district, Gudi Hathnoor in Adilabad, Sirsilla in Karimnagar, Mahbubabad in Warangal and Palwancha in Khammam. A total of 521 people were polled in these five towns, a statistically robust sample size.


58% in AP say Naxalism is good, finds TOI poll - The Times of India

---------------

Clearly, Maoists are more patriot than democratic Indian government.

More regional people support their Maoists, and against democratic GoI. Whenever and whererever Maoists were defeated, exploitation is increased. Thus, there is no wonder that people love Maoists than your democratic government that is only good at corruption, exploitation and negligence in these areas.

Now, local people are democratically select the Maoists, why your proclaimed democratic government does not allow them to self-govern themselves, instead inhumanly suppresses the Maoists and aggravates the exploitation? :tdown:
See the support for Maoist among common indian masses like freedom fighters bhagat singh and azad.this proves it Maoist are patriotic Indian freedom fighters who are fighting against the imperialism of west supported political-elites/corporate houses
 
Perhaps your education disallows you to comprehend the English word “survival”.

Would Timothy McVeigh be in extinction if he did not set off the bomb?

Are the Muslims in US not able to live as their neighbors?

The fact in India is that many farmers’ only choice is to commit suicide:

India: 1,500 Farmers Commit Suicide


3rd farmer suicide in 2 weeks - The Times of India

Indian Cotton Farmer Suicides, Pesticides and Fashion The Comment Factory


Most Maoists are just fighting for their survival. They get disillusioned with India political system, as your democracy's only stipend for them is to commit suicide. :taz:



That's the most ridiculous analogy I have ever see. Equating farmers committing suicide to " survival" rate of a people. Keeping aside the stats you have shown, which is insignificant from a statistical point of view, to equate it to some sort of meme on a suppression of a section of its citizenry, in a country of billions, that also has millions of farmers- fact is that you have NOT shown any systematic policy that would lead anyone to believe that the only option is suicide vs a judicial plea.

There are thousands of suicides in every country, that have nothing to do with any eradication or suppression policies of the govt. I would suggest you put more thought into your meme before you come back with a reply. Else, all you achieve here, is being a rabble-rouser ...


Now, local people are democratically select the Maoists, why your proclaimed democratic government does not allow them to self-govern themselves, instead inhumanly suppresses the Maoists and aggravates the exploitation? :tdown:

You mean we should allow them to repudiate our constitution like you have 1/4 of Pakistan ( NWF and tribal regions in Pakistan? How's that working out for Pakistan, heh...
 
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What does this have to do with the topic? Thanks for trolling :cheers:

Doh! it was meant to be put on another topic and in another section... my bad. I had multiple windows opened
 
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Perhaps your education disallows you to comprehend the English word “survival”.

Would Timothy McVeigh be in extinction if he did not set off the bomb?

Are the Muslims in US not able to live as their neighbors?

The fact in India is that many farmers’ only choice is to commit suicide:

India: 1,500 Farmers Commit Suicide

3rd farmer suicide in 2 weeks - The Times of India

Indian Cotton Farmer Suicides, Pesticides and Fashion The Comment Factory


Most Maoists are just fighting for their survival. They get disillusioned with India political system, as your democracy's only stipend for them is to commit suicide. :taz:

This is not a phenomenon concerning India alone. Its a global issue. You would be surprised to know that the highest number of Suicide deaths happens in China.

China's incidence of suicide is about 25/100 000 but it has the highest number of people (287 000) who kill themselves every year.

Similarly, India has a rate of 10-11/100 000 but is second only to China in the actual number of people (110 000) who kill themselves.

Interestingly, Pakistan doesn't have any statistics about suicide and don't report it to WHO.

Can we say that at-least China and India doesn't hide facts and it inadvertently means we acknowledge the issue and will work to eradicate it. Whereas Pakistan spends only 0.7% of GDP is allocated to health compared to 4.6% for defense has to start from scratch and has to report the suicide death's honestly let alone addressing it.

SourceMedia - The Royal Society of Medicine
 
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