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Pakistan should buy Patriot System

The Patriot has not been offered to India or Pakistan for good reason
dont bring india into this. US tried a lot in convincing INDIA to buy patriot which cost almost double the price of S400. Even , US tried to use CAASTA on INDIA if we purchase S400, just do google to know about how much US tried to convince india to buy Patriot. Eventually, India went ahead with S400 which is a way cheaper
 
Why should be buy American stuff when Chinese products are as good, HQ-9P
Yeah...Tell that to the Iraqis post Desert Storm. :enjoy:

Here is the real world deal...

Suppose you design a new compound for tire (or tyre). What is the ultimate test for that compound? Not in the lab. The roads and the environments determines if your product is good enough. Same for a new airfoil, metallic composite, plastics, and so on. Concrete must withstand constant compression, and unpredictable exposure to water and heat. Seemingly, we modern people still have a hard time replicating Roman Empire era concrete formulation. In other words, the ultimate test for anything is WHEN, not if, that thing goes up against an opponent that tries their best to destroy that thing. Nowhere is that more 'real world' than war and weapons, and military history is repleted with failures of hardware, software (theories), and people, when each of them clashed. The Maginot fortifications were great ideas of software and hardware, until tested.

Look at the admonition to go after the Archer and not his arrows. Modern warfare made that increasingly difficult. The Archer is separated from the battlefront by distances literally beyond view. You have no choice but to deal with his arrows. You must develop two separate branches of arms in software (theories and doctrines) and hardware (aircraft and missile interceptor). Each to complement the other but at the same time, operate independently when necessary. You go after the Archer in offense while shooting at his arrows in defense. One can fail while the other succeed. Or if you are good enough, both succeed.

Back in Desert Storm, Soviet and Chinese weapons systems and war doctrines failed spectacularly. There was a 'clash of civilization', in a manner of perspective, and the Soviet-China versions lost badly. US airpower had many failures in hunting the Archer, and many failures in dealing with his arrows. But the one good thing about winning a war is that whatever that you failed during the war, in the peace you have the opportunity to find out where and how you failed. Losers seldom have that opportunity. Chinese products of war, especially on the technological front, as just as good? Get into a war and find out.
 
Better for us to save up for our next IMF bailout. Being broke is not cheap you know.
 
dont bring india into this. US tried a lot in convincing INDIA to buy patriot which cost almost double the price of S400. Even , US tried to use CAASTA on INDIA if we purchase S400, just do google to know about how much US tried to convince india to buy Patriot. Eventually, India went ahead with S400 which is a way cheaper

India get the specs sheet on Patriot PAC-3. It never went beyond that
 
fine buddy, where is the money ? India itself did not want to buy one battery at 1 billion USD, so, it went for $600 million S400/S500. With pakistan's total forex at 4billion USD, how will u buy even a single Patriot battery ??

S-400 is failing miserably.

NATO and Ukraine are pounding Russians by firing Storm Shadow missiles using SU-24s.
 
'Patriots are destroying Russian drones and missiles including hypersonic missiles with almost 100% accuracy in Ukraine.' Says who? Zelensky?
 
Lolllzzz, patriot got their *** spanked by Russians

Fake News.



Patriot systems have shot down virtually anything thrown at them by Russian forces such as drones, cruise missiles, Iskander ballistic missiles, and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles. Patriot systems have also shot down Russian aircraft at Russian border.

Following are latest revelations:



Russian authorities are interrogating Russian scientists consequently.


This is an eye-opener.

We don't need it because alternative is there named HQ-9 which far more cheaper then patriot

And last we have no $$$ to buy it

HQ-9 is S-300+ level.

Yes, Pakistan cannot afford Patriot systems.
 
Fake News.



Patriot systems have shot down virtually anything thrown at them by Russian forces such as drones, cruise missiles, Iskander ballistic missiles, and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles. Patriot systems have also shot down Russian aircraft at Russian border.

Following are latest revelations:



Russian authorities are interrogating Russian scientists consequently.


This is an eye-opener.



HQ-9 is S-300+ level.

Yes, Pakistan cannot afford Patriot systems.
Yes HQ-9P is similar to S-300+.

But eventually China will make something similar to S-400.
 

Patriot has HOT launch system.

HOT launch system provide good results (vs. Cold launch system), but it is possible for a missile to malfunction and explode during HOT launch process (rare but happens).

On 16-05-23, Russia subjected a Patriot battery stationed somewhere in Kyiv to a very complex and deadly airborne assault composed of drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and hypersonic missiles. The Patriot battery shot down a total of 17 hostile targets but one of the interceptors might have malfunctioned in a launcher during this extremely stressful attack situation. This explains the "minimum damage" revelation which is FIXED by the way. This is incredible level of performance - something that was not predicted even in brochures.

Do tell me if (any) terrestrial Air Defense System can withstand this type of airborne assault. Best of luck.

If this was S-400 or even S-500 (systems that I do not underestimate), it would be toast.
 

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