FunkyGen
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My point remains, why did the tribals help them. They knew foreigners were there, why didn't they expel them?dont be silly
they are our citizens. they are in the bad neighborhood without their choice
your culprits are those right winged religious organisations that are receiving yearly funds in the tune of tens of millions of dollars from Saudis in order to radicalize the public and breed fresh blood for Taliban
I hear both argument @Hyperion .. I hear with Gen Athar is saying... but Salala and OBL operation didnt help us in any bit. and not to forget the RD saga as well.
our major failing is in southern Punjab, Jhang and karachi where LeJ infestation compounded up to the point that it provided men, material and space for high level attacks on GHQ and military bases.
I dont know how much Kyani saved himself from the scorn of the right wing bigots by not launching NW operation because he and his fores were the constant target of all right wing parties and the media. for people like Hamid Mir and Jamat Islami, he was an American tout ...for continuing the fight that Gen Musharraf started.
yes there were some lost opportunities and the clueless politicians and general public also played in this indecisiveness to go all out for terrorists but there was also the question of logistics and resources when it had already committed itself in malakund, sawat, south waziristsan etc.
the real war that still hasnt happened yet is in our cities where the terrorists are sitting in their madrassahs and red mosques and openly taunting the state.
North Waziristan successes will be only symbolic. our targets already moved out thanks to Nawaz sherif refusal and our military's lack of will to strike them when they were stranded in snow.
Why did they allow their children to be born?
Scared? Well, how about being scared of clusters?
And how can you forget the FACT that majority of the militants throughout the country who actually have the will to take Pakistan head on have something to do with tribals or Pushtoons in general.....
Recently an explosives truck was found with Swatis in it, i mean don't they have OTHER ethnicities?
As far as cities go i've read members saying that slums housing Afghanis are the real cause of the mess cause they send their children to madrassas rather than proper schools which provide excellent human sources for the miscreants.... AGAIN..... TRIBALS ARE INVOLVED!
I've rarely seen Punjabi or heck anything other than these people causing trouble..... remember Chechnya?
Others just aren't the bang for the buck for our Arab friends.