JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[Trango Towers]

Only on Block-III and permanent air intake in attached picture.




There is a lot of room for newer installations. These placements will appear by the time when we see clear pictures. Previously these two points on each side were allocated for MAWS but now being shifted to upper location. New sensors are in as they suits.


Thumbs up.

This is the directional light. Probe will be near cockpit. As highlighted in red.
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Actually when will the fuel probes be fitted?

 

[JawadKKhan]

Yup, the little blue pill, and what else?
Because Thrust to weight ratio was already bad I JF-17. Now the same engine will also have to provide for AESA and more.

The detailed specs / technical details of this AESA radar can exactly tell the picture. It seems most of the info is likely confidential. However, if this particular radar KLJ-7a is made considering light combat aircrafts especially JF-17 as primary platform then its power requirements would have kept accordingly to the jet's capability. I believe its smaller with less transmitters & power requirements then the one on J-10C. That what i had read through wiki pages. But I would also love to read detailed analysis of this radar Vs the one installed in J-10C with detailed specs like weight, transmitters, power requirements, detection ranges etc. If anyone find a good link, pls share.

 

[The Eagle]

Actually when will the fuel probes be fitted?

Probes will be installed per requirements on particular aircrafts. However, the option exists on all airframes post 229 Block-II. Installing Refueling Probe on Thunder is now a matter of minutes I believe if not an hour.

 

[Trango Towers]

Probes will be installed per requirements on particular aircrafts. However, the option exists on all airframes post 229 Block-II. Installing Refueling Probe on Thunder is now a matter of minutes I believe if not an hour.

I would have thought this would be standard install. This would help keep aircraft in the air longer.

Thanks for the info

 

[arjunk]

Probes will be installed per requirements on particular aircrafts. However, the option exists on all airframes post 229 Block-II. Installing Refueling Probe on Thunder is now a matter of minutes I believe if not an hour.

Installing the probe takes minutes.

 

[Trango Towers]

Installing the probe takes minutes.

Minutes may be an exaggeration unless all the internal piping is done. Then minutes is probably right. Maybe 300 minutes to 400 minutes loool

 

[ziaulislam]

Yup, the little blue pill, and what else?
Because Thrust to weight ratio was already bad I JF-17. Now the same engine will also have to provide for AESA and more.

No it wasnt bad
Rd93 is good engine

Rd93ma will just allow for more range due to its effiency and dry thrust increase

Providing power isnt the problem

 

[The Eagle]

Minutes may be an exaggeration unless all the internal piping is done. Then minutes is probably right. Maybe 300 minutes to 400 minutes loool

Don't be so negative on everything. Read the earlier post where I said, Minutes and if not an hour which makes it less than one hour = 60 minutes. Secondly, internal plumbing is done on all the frames and it takes double digit minutes to install probe externally.

 

[Trango Towers]

Don't be so negative on everything. Read the earlier post where I said, Minutes and if not an hour which makes it less than one hour = 60 minutes. Secondly, internal plumbing is done on all the frames and it takes double digit minutes to install probe externally.

Bhai...I think u are forgetting I am an aerospace engineer with a masters in aircraft design from cornfield. I worked for BEA and Ricardo as well the DRAE Farnborough. I know how long things take...60 60minutes to fit an aerial refueling probe is almost impossible. Unless ofcourse you know better. Also course mate does exactly this at a Cambridge based company that specialises in aerial refuelling probes.

I am not negative...I know it can be done quickly but under an hour. I question that. Have a nice day

 

[The Eagle]

Bhai...I think u are forgetting I am an aerospace engineer with a masters in aircraft design from cornfield. I worked for BEA and Ricardo as well the DRAE Farnborough. I know how long things take...60 60minutes to fit an aerial refueling probe is almost impossible. Unless ofcourse you know better. Also course mate does exactly this at a Cambridge based company that specialises in aerial refuelling probes.

I am not negative...I know it can be done quickly but under an hour. I question that. Have a nice day

Re-tractable V/s fixed probe, might be the subject for difference in installation time. What I got on Thunder, is like more than single source.

 

[arjunk]

all the internal piping is done

That's what I'm referring to.

 

[Deino]

Roll out ceremony ...... (via aahyan/SDF)

 

[The Eagle]

Roll out ceremony ...... (via aahyan/SDF)

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People will see videos very soon as well.

 

[Goenitz]

Re-tractable V/s fixed probe, might be the subject for difference in installation time. What I got on Thunder, is like more than single source.

@Trango Towers
If the panel is riveted then it is days job. If panel is fixed with fastners and the probe comes embeded in panel, then it will be fixed with the fastners within an hour.

The vibration normally won't allow fasnters in aviation. There are some techniques which keep the screws in places (like O spring). However, not a good method.

I also believe that it shd be riveted so that will take 1-2 days at least, with few cycles of panel life.

 

[Trango Towers]

Re-tractable V/s fixed probe, might be the subject for difference in installation time. What I got on Thunder, is like more than single source.

I presumes all the pipe work is already installed on each thunder and only the probe will be required to be attached

@Trango Towers
If the panel is riveted then it is days job. If panel is fixed with fastners and the probe comes embeded in panel, then it will be fixed with the fastners within an hour.

The vibration normally won't allow fasnters in aviation. There are some techniques which keep the screws in places (like O spring). However, not a good method.

I also believe that it shd be riveted so that will take 1-2 days at least, with few cycles of panel life.

I don't think this is even an issue bhai