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Jahangir Tareen's new party to be named ‘Istehkam-e-Pakistan’

This clearly is not a popularity contest as such it won't be a failure. The powers that be just need another alternate in place. In our dysfunctional democracy, nobody cares about the popular vote because any election can be "engineered" to give popular vote to anyone deemed worthy at the time.

Hate to say this but at this time, all Pakistan needs is some stability. The utter disregard of the constitution by the current *caretaker* government should leave no one with an illusion that overnight this system will get fixed (this goes for even if IK/PTI were to attain ascendancy). I think PTI/IK need to park their gaddi for now and wait out for not the next, but the one after the next elections.

Once the pressure is lifted on PTI/IK which may take many quarters and possibly even a few years, these deserters will trickle back in given the mood of the public.
SO u r saying that stooges of establishment aka caretaker, pdm or this new istaklaal that brought this unstability will bring stability ?

It is same that a country invades u and u sit down in your house that enemy has invaded now they will bring peace.

Regarding election, only elites and power circles done care about popular vote but what about 240 million people ? Do u really think stability can come after suppressing 240 million on the wishes of few 100s?

People might be silent for the time but for how long ?

They dont have the ability to run Pakistan unless u want tp be like like similar countries such as nigeria, mayanmar and other banana republic
 
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Based on the analysis that Pakistani society has become rotten to the core, my conclusion is that the ideal, fantasy solution is the following:

The army sheds the crazies among the generals and teams up with PTI under Imran Khan. Together we can fix Pakistan.

The army under the new commanders would have to agree to full-fledged reforms to make sure this stupidity never happens again. They would have to work under civilian control like armies in all properly run countries.

Imran Khan and PTI will have the support of the people. Pakistan needs 20 years of political stability and economic development to become a prosperous country. (Erdogan has been ruling Turkey for 20+ years).

We can achieve a growth rate of 10% per year. In 20 years our economy will grow 8 times what it is now. From $350 billion to $2.8 trillion. Exports of $400 billion and $500 billion in the bank.

It is very achievable. Just the leadership of the army needs to decide to go for total success instead of total failure.

Only a little sacrifice and some courage is needed. The soldiers who bring about these reforms will be remembered in books on Islamic history 500 years from now.

PS: Military budget will be $112 billion in 2043.
 
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Honestly shame on Ali Zaidi.

He said keh PTI main do log hongay to it would be me and IK, and mere sar par goli mar do main nhn chooroon ga. Ok, you had to leave under pressure, but then you went with JKT.

Lakh di lanat. Never expected him to do this. As for Imran Ismail, never liked him.

Goes to show you cannot trust anyone in politics.
I rather know who are my real friends are before going to the war. Just shows how people can be bought and sold in the Pakistan and how some section of society is so low, slave to the money and power.
Another Zia game and that's all they know divide and rule, create a new party to take on the party they don't like. They did it to the MQM by creating another version of the MQM, supported even separatists Sindi parties against PPP and if that was not good enough, Jonego party of the 80's came along. Its 2023 and people can see through all the games of the begaret generals when Pakistan is not important for them and they labelled everyone terrorist to save there kingdoms.
In the rest of the world parents are concerned how good schools they can send there kids to, and these begaret generals have reduced our country to that parents don't even know if there kids are going to be in there own beds.
When these begaret generals start using there dead soldiers tombs who laid down lives for the country and start using the victim card how low this begaret tola will sink to. Shame is not the word for our thug and begaret generals they are just trained and born losers and our nation is paying the price for there ill-leggimate births. Which ever war they have fought they have lost, where ever fingers in government and economy matters they have put, life came down crashing. Still they are holding conferences from national security to the core commanders and now new term field commanders, so Pakistan is a now a field and theatre of war is it? Why can't you pathetic generals admit for a change and accept that you are just a bad omen for our nation and a worse enemy for the state of the Pakistan and get lost.
 
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Will bring istehkam by not questioning haramkhor generals who will sell out our country for dollars and for their personal interests.
Will bring istehkam by only favoring the rich establishment, few families with extreme unequal distribution of wealth.
Will bring istekham by killing the merit system and forcing the talented pool of pakistan to leave for abroad.
This is the reality of so called democracy in pakistan.

Goes to show you cannot trust anyone in politics
Sir the reality is they were not leaders infact there is no leader in Pakistani politics. Most are like seasonal birds who migrate from nest to nest.
 
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It will be an epic failure. The writing is on the wall.
Chhot foj doesn't want bawazu dandu ba k or anyone to have clear majority. A string democracy and a prosperous non security state Pakistan mens end of thier corruption .
Lol now mushtaq Minhas running for elections in AJK as I had predicted over 6 mo ths ago. Just wanted to thwoin there for fuddu paywaris.
 
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Lol at the people thinking this is a legitimate party. I bet most of them were forced to join at gunpoint if not by blackmail.

I never thought I'd ever be cursing my own military, but here we all are.

Lanat 🖐️ on this fauj.
 
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Lol at the people thinking this is a legitimate party. I bet most of them were forced to join at gunpoint if not by blackmail.

I never thought I'd ever be cursing my own military, but here we all are.

Lanat 🖐️ on this fauj.

They were always politicians. Just shows how naive IK and its followers are.

And no one was even contacted by Army, apart from Qureshi.
 
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We need to figure out a way to liberate the faujis from the British Indian generals. If it can be turned into a real Pakistani Army then it can be quite useful.
 
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How many of these people are wanted for corruption and orchestrating 9th May tragedy?

ECP should not let this party be registered. There are grave concerns about the involvement of these people in the 9th May tragedy.
 
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Is party ka naam be lugta hai GHQ ny suggest kiya hai "Istehkam-e-Pakistan" :D
 
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same forces which made IGI, MQM, PMLQ and PTI are now repeating the same mistake just so we have so called democracy sheesh
 
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Based on the analysis that Pakistani society has become rotten to the core, my conclusion is that the ideal, fantasy solution is the following:

The army sheds the crazies among the generals and teams up with PTI under Imran Khan. Together we can fix Pakistan.

The army under the new commanders would have to agree to full-fledged reforms to make sure this stupidity never happens again. They would have to work under civilian control like armies in all properly run countries.

Imran Khan and PTI will have the support of the people. Pakistan needs 20 years of political stability and economic development to become a prosperous country. (Erdogan has been ruling Turkey for 20+ years).

We can achieve a growth rate of 10% per year. In 20 years our economy will grow 8 times what it is now. From $350 billion to $2.8 trillion. Exports of $400 billion and $500 billion in the bank.

It is very achievable. Just the leadership of the army needs to decide to go for total success instead of total failure.

Only a little sacrifice and some courage is needed. The soldiers who bring about these reforms will be remembered in books on Islamic history 500 years from now.

PS: Military budget will be $112 billion in 2043.
I read this and became sad. What could have been!!!
 
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IK and SMQ, a picture with many meanings!
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When all jump ship only the true remain.
That's why 1 good friend is better than a 1000 bad one's
 
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Won't make an iota of difference, these new parties will keep on going around in circles of promises but deliver zero performance.
 
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