Lol how is that?
Arabs were neither in the state aparatus except the places where they were the rulers, there were more politicians from christians like Greeks Armenians and rest of Balkan, nor were they largely represented in the military, Arabic wasnt a official language, only thing Arabic in Ottoman Empire was the modified script which was taken from Persians and the religion.
Just missed this post and can't resist a reply looking at it now.
As for Arabs not forming an important part of the Ottomans, that's a blatant and absurd lie. To start with; the language was more Arabic than Turkish, the bureaucracy was modeled after past ARAB Caliphates, your titles were all Arab in origin, most of the names of individuals (Sultans for instance) were Arabic, the religion came from the Arabs, 1/3 of all lands were Arab, the biggest ethnic group was Arab, the alphabet was Arab (for your information the Farsi alphabet is identical to the Arab alphabet which they got from us with the exception of solely the huge number of 2 additional letters, the holy sites were all located in Arab lands etc., there were several important Arab personalities on all fronts (you might not be taught this in school but it does not mean that they did not exist). But sure whatever floats your boat. I think all what I have mentioned is much more than Turkish/Turkic influences on Arabs or other people in the region for that matter.
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@500 trolling aside in this thread (I did not begin), I do respect you and often I find myself being in agreement with you when it comes to events in Syria (this will of course create enormous butthurt to the trolls that thanked that "Russian"'s troll's posts but who cares about Al-Assad (worst regime in existence) apologists) but I can't find out why you do not take the same principled (correct in other words) stance when it comes to Palestine and in particular Gaza? I don't see much difference other than the number of casualties.
Also you yourself have admitted to Al-Assad being the best neighbor for Israel due to 40 + years of stability and the Syrian Golan Heights (now under Israeli control for 40 + years) never being attempted reconquered by the Al-Assad regime. So by this token I do not understand why you clearly support the Syrian opposition? If it is because of your principled stance, if so I do not understand why you are not more vocal when it comes to that same principled stance in Palestine. Are Palestinians less deserving of this? Don't the Palestinians deserve freedom and self-rule as well? At least their own state and to live in peace?
If you were not an Israeli, I am sure that many more people would agree with your posts in regards to Syria but due to your flags, people will point fingers at events in Palestine and yes, I do even though I am against Israeli policies in Palestine, admit that there is no comparison in terms of casualties currently (for the past 7 years in fact) in Syria and Palestine but that does not mean that Israel is an innocent lamb.
All those current groups and entities that Israel consider an enemy, if a two-state solution was found, I can assure you that most of the problems would disappear after some time and cool down like in other conflicts in the region. That's why I do not understand your government's policies at all. This criticism is labelled not only by Arabs but most of the world. Look at the most recent vote at the UN regarding the US embassy move and what even religious leaders (Pope) had to say. As I see it you are shooting yourself in the foot for what? Some more Palestinian farm lands? Don't you have enough of land?
This policy does nothing but aid does very people that are a danger to the overall region. It's a chain reaction. You should know by now.
Someone is feeling his own medicine...
Tell me now..;what is like to be bombed without any power to stop it...
Honestly, without air support and without Hezbollah elite units, who would gain the upper hand on the battlefield? I think that we all know the answer to this question and saw this prior to the Russian intervention with our own very eyes even despite all odds being against the Syrian opposition. The motivation of the average participant (Syrian opposition) if you watch the videos, is much greater than those forcefully drafted Syrian soldiers. It reminds me of reading about the Afghan-Soviet war and those Afghans that were forcefully drafted to the Afghan communist army. In fact I feel sad for them when they get captured. You can see that they would prefer not to do what they are told (forced) to do.
Also notice, how this incident today fits with the growing Iranian support for YPG against Turkish presence in Afrin. So much for that "Astana agreement". I always said that it would be useless if the Syrian opposition was nowhere to be found and no regional Arab players.
So things are really becoming even more messy inside Syria (could not have made this up just 1 week ago)
How do you look at the US role here? Will they seek escalation or deescalation like Israel is seeking (apparently officially that is)?
How can Russia (supposedly now friendly with Erdogan) tolerate their "allies" Iran arming the YPG and AT THE SAME time aiding the Al-Assad regime which is supposed to be enemies of YPG?
What a mess.....
If/once Yemen is dealt with and we enter the scene again in Syria, I can only imagine the situation becoming messier and more complex with increased "competition" (I ask for what currently but whatever).
And then you have this (which might have been Russia's/Al-Assad regime's revenge)
It's even worse than Yemen in terms of complexity of late.
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