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Is Turkey the Punching Bag?

Yes, it's not an opinion that you can bend it over. Turkey can ban any country's navy vessels on earth's surface if ever Turkey feels threatened.

You cannot change it. Feels suck? Drink some water then :lol:


You do realize that it would take USA maybe 30 minutes to force the Bosporus open?

^the gov seems insecure in how to handle the situation. But as of now the language which is spoken is the one of force so turkey will need to use it as well. I really pray that this will result in turkeys nato exit.


Believe me, in Italy and most of EU we pray for this as well.
 
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F35 is already over, they banned it. They gone for good for us.


What they can do as max;

> Supporting terrorists against us (they already do)
> Putting military embargo on us (they already do)
> Putting huge taxes for Turkish goods (they already do)
> Putting diplomatic pressure on us (they already do)
> Putting economic sanctions on us (they already do + are gonna do in few weeks)

These are their limits, we need to remove this cancer out of Anatolia. We are good with UK & Italy, we can keep our NATO operations with UK and Italy.
f35 is not over yet.. Potus will sign next monday..
 
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Turkey, is the only country on earth, that is free to be punched, pissed on, raped freely. Turkey will not complain, yet alone give any respond, since it does not have any government. Turkey will smile to you when you punch it, Turkey will ask more..

Where the f@ck is our government? Why the f@ck our airspace and bosporus are still open to US?

Do we have any single honor left? Any kind of national interest at least?
We are on the verge of economic collapse and you are concerned about the behavior of an orange orangutan ?

You do realize that it would take USA maybe 30 minutes to force the Bosporus open?
Turkey can't close the Bosporus unilaterally because of the treaties and even if it does US doesn't need to use any force, a just a few little sanctions would be enough.
 
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"When Traders at the exchange market call for Bear... Traders at Home call for the End..."
 
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I dont care


The European Central Bank had an emergency meeting today because the collapse of the turkish economy. They currently create a fire wall to prevent effects from this collapse spreading into the € zone.

Its expected that many turkish companies and banks cant fullfill their contracts anymore. Another factor is that many turks will switch to € and $ now, which would further collapse the lira and push the € and $. Thats bad for our export.
 
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The European Central Bank had an emergency meeting today because the collapse of the turkish economy. They currently create a fire wall to prevent effects from this collapse spreading into the € zone.

Its expected that many turkish companies and banks cant fullfill their contracts anymore. Another factor is that many turks will switch to € and $ now, which would further collapse the lira and push the € and $. Thats bad for our export.
There is nothing in the Turkish media regarding this crisis... all is excellent and good according to Turkish main stream media.
 
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The European Central Bank had an emergency meeting today because the collapse of the turkish economy. They currently create a fire wall to prevent effects from this collapse spreading into the € zone.

Its expected that many turkish companies and banks cant fullfill their contracts anymore. Another factor is that many turks will switch to € and $ now, which would further collapse the lira and push the € and $. Thats bad for our export.
Afaik especially italian and spanish banks have direct vulnerability when it comes to the privately held loans in Turkey.

You guys are already struggling, ecb better comes up with good plans.

I also dont understand why mediterranean banks seem more idiotic when it comes to risk management.. Why German banks arent doing it? Or swiss banks? Or norwegian banks??

They can foresee but your banks cant? I guess the new socialist and communist policies introduced in the banking sector of these southern countries werent really good for the sector now were they?
 
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Or rather US is...
Turkey picking too many fights at once.First fix economy then mess with usa.With that amount of external debt,this is a token sanction but real sanction will destroy the economy further.I think this more erdogan-trump personal cockfight due to backstab on pastor deal rather than problems between usa and turkey as countries.These 2 manbabies should grow up and get this sorted.
 
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Afaik especially italian and spanish banks have direct vulnerability when it comes to the privately held loans in Turkey.

You guys are already struggling, ecb better comes up with good plans.

I also dont understand why mediterranean banks seem more idiotic when it comes to risk management.. Why German banks arent doing it? Or swiss banks? Or norwegian banks??

They can foresee but your banks cant? I guess the new socialist and communist policies introduced in the banking sector of these southern countries werent really good for the sector now were they?


We will see, i heared the effect is manageable but it does create shockwaves for sure.

https://www.ft.com/content/51311230-9be7-11e8-9702-5946bae86e6d

There is nothing in the Turkish media regarding this crisis... all is excellent and good according to Turkish main stream media.


Here they show how delussional Erdogan already is. Saying that USA and EU have Doller, Gold and Euro but turks have Allah.

The moderator asked: Did Allah say sell or buy? and laughed his *** off.

What happenes now is a collapse and it gets faster and faster. And EWrdogan seriously tells his people to change Dolelr and Euroe and Gold into Lira. He tells his followers to throw their savings away.
 
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Turkey, is the only country on earth, that is free to be punched, pissed on, raped freely. Turkey will not complain, yet alone give any respond, since it does not have any government. Turkey will smile to you when you punch it, Turkey will ask more..

Where the f@ck is our government? Why the f@ck our airspace and bosporus are still open to US?

Do we have any single honor left? Any kind of national interest at least?
all good things come to those who are patient.....knee jerk reaction is foolish.
revenge is a dish best served cold....turks are not cowards so be patient.
 
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The European Central Bank had an emergency meeting today because the collapse of the turkish economy. They currently create a fire wall to prevent effects from this collapse spreading into the € zone.

Its expected that many turkish companies and banks cant fullfill their contracts anymore. Another factor is that many turks will switch to € and $ now, which would further collapse the lira and push the € and $. Thats bad for our export.

wow that was fast, i was talking with my friend about Europe contingency plan for turkey
 
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We are 100% with our dear Turkish blood brothers and sisters.

I am wondering what are some concrete steps Pakistan and friendly countries can do to help Turkey out of this problem.

China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, and some other friendly countries should meet to discuss how to aid Turkey like we did about Afghanistan recently.

Turkey also must release its 3 + million refugees to Europe. Immediately.

This. Let Europe/US deal with the mess they created.
 
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