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سال گذشته نیز دولت روحانی در لایحه بودجه 95، مجموع بودجه نهادهای نظامی را 5 هزارمیلیارد تومان کاهش داده بود که با واکنش تند مجلس روبرو شد. نوبخت در واکنش به این واکنش مجلس اعلام کرد که برای تقویت بنیه دفاعی اصلا پولی وجود ندارد! این در حالی است که همین میزان بودجه نیز هیچگاه توسط دولت محقق نشد و سال گذشته سرلشگر باقری رئیس ستاد کل نیروهای مسلح از تحقق تنها 20% از بودجه نظامی کشور از سوی دولت خبر داده بود

this was the government who reduced the budget in the first year.
this was the supreme leader who defined a minimum amount of defense budget to overcome the government sabotages in the bills.
it was the government who wanted to steal 5000 billion tomans from the last year budget,
it was the government who didn't even pay the budget which was ratified in Parliament.
this was and is the government who is advertising against IRGC missiles 24/7.
this was the government who wanted to make another deal on our missiles (JCPOA 2,3,...)
This is the IRGC's financial activities which paves the way for their missile programs, and this is the government which is against their activities.
 
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this was the government who reduced the budget in the first year.
this was the supreme leader who defined a minimum amount of defense budget to overcome the government sabotages in the bills.
it was the government who wanted to steal 5000 billion tomans from the last year budget,
it was the government who didn't even pay the budget which was ratified in Parliament.
this was and is the government who is advertising against IRGC missiles 24/7.
this was the government who wanted to make another deal on our missiles (JCPOA 2,3,...)
This is the IRGC's financial activities which paves the way for their missile programs, and this is the government which is against their activities.

Is Rouhani a traitor?
 
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به گزارش رجانیوز،ساعاتی پس از آنکه حسن روحانی در چرخشی 180 درجه ای نسبت به سخنان قبلی خود درباره «موشک»، گفت: «موشک را کی درست کرد؟ سازنده این موشک دولت و وزارت دفاع است و پول آن را بخش اقتصادی کشور تامین می‌کند.» سعید جلیلی بدون نام آوردن از روحانی، در کانال تلگرام خود نوشت:

«بعضی ها بلافاصله وقتی که موفقیتی به دست می‌آید، ظاهر می شوند! همین‌هایی که از زیر بار مسؤولیت شانه خالی می‌کنند: « الَّذينَ يَتَرَبَّصُونَ بِکُمْ فَإِنْ کانَ لَکُمْ فَتْحٌ مِنَ اللَّهِ قالُوا أَ لَمْ نَکُنْ مَعَکُمْ ». تعبیر قرآن است که می‌گوید اینها نگاه می‌کنند و اگر دیدند موفقیتی حاصل شد و غنائمی به دست آمد، آن وقت می‌گویند ما که بودیم! کسانی دیگر هم هستند که ظاهراً با شما هستند: «و من الناس من يقول آمنا بالله». اما اگر مشکلاتی پیش بیاید « فَإِذَا أُوذِيَ فِي اللَّهِ». یک دفعه می‌گویند چه شد؟ « جَعَلَ فِتْنَةَ النَّاسِ كَعَذَابِ اللَّهِ». می‌گویند چرا این طور شد؟ چرا این مشکلات پیش آمد؟ چقدر هزینه بدهیم؟ اما اگر از آن طرف پیروزی کسب شود، «جاءَ نَصْرٌ مِنْ رَبِّکَ لَیَقُولُنَّ إِنَّا کُنَّا مَعَکُمْ». می‌گویند ما که از اول با شما بودیم! اصلاً ما هم بودیم.»


Is Rouhani a traitor?
it depends!
whether destroying tens of billions of our nuclear infrastructures and postponing our advancement for decades in return of nothing is a treason or not!
whether shutting down our space program in return of nothing is a treason or not!
whether undermining security forces in the region like middle east is a treason or not.
whether unprecedented imports / shutting down of domestic factories / fabricating numbers to fool people is a treason or not.
whether appointing corrupted peoples (Crescent deal) as our oil minister is a treason or not.
whether supporting of MKO terrorists which have killed 17000 Iranian is a treason or not.


My answer is :without doubt.
 
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he is a sheer liar. if anything has happened, it's due to IRGC and Parliament, not the government.

کاهش 85درصدی بودجه دفاعی کشور در دولت روحانی/ آقای روحانی! صحبت هایتان علیه شهرهای موشکی را باور کنیم یا ادعای ساخت موشک تان را؟

گروه سیاسی - رجانیوز، « ما متوقف کردیم؟ ما کامل کردیم فناوری هسته ای را» این جمله ای است که حسن روحانی با اعتماد به نفس کامل در سال 92 گفت و مدعی شد که نه تنها فعالیت هسته ای در سال های 82 تا84 توسط وی متوقف نشده است که او این چرخه راهبردی را کامل کرده است! و اتفاقا ایشان در ادامه کامل کردن چرخه هسته ای بار دیگر در سال 92 همه فعالیت های صلح آمیز هسته ای را تعلیق کردند!

حالا حسن روحانی ادعایی جدید را مطرح کرده است. وی که در اولین سال ریاست جمهوری خود بودجه دفاعی کشور را به شدت کاهش داد امروز در جشنواره عمران سلامت در صحبت هایی کاملا مرتبط با موضوع همایش(!) گفت: « آنها که از خاکمان با موشک یک مرکز تروریستی را هدف قرار دادند فداکاری کردند، اما موشک را کی درست کرد؟ سازنده این موشک دولت و وزارت دفاع است و پول آن را بخش اقتصادی کشور تامین می‌کند.» وی ادامه داد: «سلاح‌های راهبردی ساخته شده در دولت یازدهم حدود ۸۰ درصد کل میزان قبلی است.»

حسن روحانی که در مناظرات انتخاباتی با حمله به اقتدار موشکی سپاه، نه تنها به شهرهای موشکی سپاه اعتراض کردکه شعارنویسی روی موشک ها را نیز تحمل نکرد و نسبت به آن انتقاد شدید کرد اما امروز در واکنشی کاملا متفاوت نمادهای اقتدار کشور را به نام دولت خود ثبت کرد.
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اما بودجه دفاعی کشور در دولت حسن روحانی چقدر بوده است؟

بودجه دفاعی کشور علیرغم افزایش هر ساله که در دولت های قبل رایج بوده است، در آغاز دولت یازدهم به یک هفتم رسید. یعنی حسن روحانی در ابتدای ورود خود در جهت حمایت از صنایع دفاعی کشور 85 درصد از بودجه آن را حذف کرد!

بودجه دفاعی کشور تا حدی کم شد که با وجود افزایش سالانه آن هنوز هم نتوانسته به رقم 4سال گذشته خود برسد.
میزان این بودجه از سال های92 تا 96 عبارت بودند از:
سال 92: 13.5 هزار میلیارد تومان
سال 93: 2 هزار میلیارد تومان (11.5هزار میلیارد تومان کاهش)
سال 94: 2.3 هزار میلیارد تومان
سال 95: 3.1 هزار میلیارد تومان
سال 96: 4.2 هزار میلیارد

دولت یازدهم بدون اشاره به کاهش 11.5 هزار میلیاردی بودجه دفاعی کشور در سال 92، صرفا به افزایش های جزئی در این ردیف بودجه در سالهای مختلف اشاره کرده و با بازی با آمار، خود را طرفدار افزایش بودجه دفاعی کشور و صاحب موشک های سپاه نشان می‌دهد.

سال گذشته نیز دولت روحانی در لایحه بودجه 95، مجموع بودجه نهادهای نظامی را 5 هزارمیلیارد تومان کاهش داده بود که با واکنش تند مجلس روبرو شد. نوبخت در واکنش به این واکنش مجلس اعلام کرد که برای تقویت بنیه دفاعی اصلا پولی وجود ندارد! این در حالی است که همین میزان بودجه نیز هیچگاه توسط دولت محقق نشد و سال گذشته سرلشگر باقری رئیس ستاد کل نیروهای مسلح از تحقق تنها 20% از بودجه نظامی کشور از سوی دولت خبر داده بود.

بهتر است آقای روحانی به جای اینکه ساخت موشک های شهیدتهرانی مقدم و فعالیت های هسته ای احمدی روشن ها را به نام خود ثبت کند به مانع گذاری در توسعه دفاعی کشور و فعالیت های صلح آمیز هسته ای پایان دهد.

Ean addad as khod sakhtegheest va motealegh be hoghooghe nirou ha e mosallah e na bodjeh Nezami Iran (Artesh, Sepah, Basij)

Doshtaneh Artesheh 10 Millioni beh heech dardi nemekhoreh agheh natooni onaro dorost mosallah koni!

Va agar bekhay har sarbozi ro ba saddeh tarreen tajheezat mosallah koni
1.AK-47 $1,000
2.Lebos (Az kollah ta kafsh), Zereh, tofang dasti, teer (ta'mir, taveez va shostoshoo e on be moddateh 1 sol) $500
3.Beseem va degar vassaeleh mokhaberati beh toor motevaset nafari $500
4.Haml o naghl sabook be toor motevaset bara har nafar va as arzoontareen no (Motor, Jeep Safir,...) nafari $3000
5.Infantry support weapons (poshteebani e nazdeek) (RPG, ATGM, Morter, Grenade) be toor motevaset nafari $1000
6.Hoghoogh, bemeh o ghaza be toor motevaset soli $4000 (yani faghat Mahi $333 USD)

ro kol kam e kam mesheh $10,000 ba vassaeli keh Takfiri ha ham daran
halla agheh jang besheh va bekhay $10,000 ro 10 Million nafar kharj koni mesheh chand? mesheh $100 Billion USD!!!!
Pass dar jang doshtaneh Artesheh 10 Millioni beshtar be zarrareh Iran e

Halla be jayeh $100 Billion agar Iran $20 Billion USD kharj sokhteh 40,000 moshak $500,000 Bellastic ya Cruise bokoneh va $5 Billion kharj paygahha, partobkonandegon moteharek va hoghoogh afradeh lazem bara negahdori va partob onha bokonad heech dollati joraateh hamlleh be Iran ro nakhahad dosht!
 
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Ean addad as khod sakhtegheest va motealegh be hoghooghe nirou ha e mosallah e na bodjeh Nezami Iran (Artesh, Sepah, Basij)

Doshtaneh Artesheh 10 Millioni beh heech dardi nemekhoreh agheh natooni onaro dorost mosallah koni!

Va agar bekhay har sarbozi ro ba saddeh tarreen tajheezat mosallah koni
1.AK-47 $1,000
2.Lebos (Az kollah ta kafsh), Zereh, tofang dasti, teer (ta'mir, taveez va shostoshoo e on be moddateh 1 sol) $500
3.Beseem va degar vassaeleh mokhaberati beh toor motevaset nafari $500
4.Haml o naghl sabook be toor motevaset bara har nafar va as arzoontareen no (Motor, Jeep Safir,...) nafari $3000
5.Infantry support weapons (poshteebani e nazdeek) (RPG, ATGM, Morter, Grenade) be toor motevaset nafari $1000
6.Hoghoogh, bemeh o ghaza be toor motevaset soli $4000 (yani faghat Mahi $333 USD)

ro kol kam e kam mesheh $10,000 ba vassaeli keh Takfiri ha ham daran
halla agheh jang besheh va bekhay $10,000 ro 10 Million nafar kharj koni mesheh chand? mesheh $100 Billion USD!!!!
Pass dar jang doshtaneh Artesheh 10 Millioni beshtar be zarrareh Iran e

Halla be jayeh $100 Billion agar Iran $20 Billion USD kharj sokhteh 40,000 moshak $500,000 Bellastic ya Cruise bokoneh va $5 Billion kharj paygahha, partobkonandegon moteharek va hoghoogh afradeh lazem bara negahdori va partob onha bokonad heech dollati joraateh hamlleh be Iran ro nakhahad dosht!

you dont english anymore
你不再英文了
شما دیگر انگلیسی نیستید
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Published by Foundation for Strategic Research, a (military and defense-related) Think Tank founded by Pierre Joxe, a former french defense minister:


full article:
Thinking Twice about Iran’s Missile Trends: The Threat is Real but Different than Predicted.pdf

Abstract
Iran’s recent strike, targeting ISIS positions in Deir ez-Zur, Syria, reveals the sophisticated nature of Tehran’s solid-fueled missile systems. It shows that the threat is real, yet different from what has been generally estimated by the Western strategic community. Traditional assessments regarding Iran’s missile capabilities have been mostly focusing on longer-range systems, tending to neglect shorter range assets. On the other hand, this report analyzes that Iran’s solid-fueled short-range missiles and rockets, which were primarily designed for actual operational use, rather than building deterrence, are now significantly improving in range and accuracy. Such a breakthrough would provide the Revolutionary Guards with conventional deep and precision strike capabilities not only on the battlefield but also in the theater. Furthermore, Iran’s burgeoning capabilities are seriously challenging the Gulf’s existing missile defense architecture. Under these circumstances, the military strategic balance in the region should be revisited.

Introduction
On June 18, 2017, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps launched surface-to-surface missiles from Kordestan and Kermanshah provinces, west of Iran, targeting ISIS positions in Deir ez-Zur, eastern Syria.1 Iranian sources reported a religiously symbolic code name for the operation, Laylat al Qadr.2 Top figures of the Iranian military and security establishment welcomed the missile attack. The Revolutionary Guards’ spokesperson, General Ramezan Sharif said that the strike was “only a tiny example of Iran’s punitive power”.3 More importantly, General Sharif hinted at the possibilities of more missile strikes as ‘crushing responses’.4 The Iranian Armed Forces Chief of Staff, General Mohammad Bagheri claimed that Iran was one of the biggest missile powers of the world.5 Missiles have a key role even in domestic political debates in Iran. Recently, during a rhetorical exchange with President Rouhani, the Revolutionary Guards did not refrain from portraying themselves a power not only with guns but also with missiles.6 Amidst tension in the Middle East, the missile strike has both political and military importance. It came after terrorist attacks in Tehran, and military escalation between the US and the Assad regime in Syria. Even more importantly, it is revealing the trajectory of Iranian ballistic missile modernization and evolution. Thus, it offers a real insight into the future missile threat landscape in the region.


The Flightpath Question
Although there are some alternative explanations, most open-source evidence suggests that the Iranians’ missile of choice was the Zolfiqar, a solid-propellant Fateh-line derivative. Some Israeli press sources reported that a mix of Zolfiqar and Qiam – a Scud C derivative –, and even Shahab-3 missiles may have been used,7 although the latter would be highly unlikely. Israeli press sources, most probably the closest monitor of Iran’s missile proliferation, told that the missiles, which hit Deir ez-Zur, flew around 800 km over the Iraqi airspace to strike ISIS targets in the city. According to the referenced sources, it was Tehran’s first operational use of medium-range ballistic missiles since the Iran-Iraq war,8 although the suggested range falls under the short-range category as it is below the widely-accepted threshold of +1,000km for medium range ballistic missiles. Nevertheless, Iranian sources suggested a shorter flight path of some 650 km from launch positions located in the west of the country.9 Tasnim news agency, an Iranian outlet with the Revolutionary Guards connections, reported that the missile strike was coordinated with the Baathist regime of Syria.10 In fact, this was an operational necessity not only because the Zolfiqar missiles were fired into the Syrian airspace through the Iraqi border, but also due to Assad’s forces’ (mostly besieged) presence in Deir ez-Zour.11 Despite the Iranian sources’ claims indicating that 360 ISIS terrorists were killed12 seem pretty much exaggerated, both the presence of an Iranian drone over the target area for battle damage assessment and coordination with the Syrian regime forces show a fairly professional planning of the mission. Notably, following the missile strike, Iranian outlets reported the Assad regime’s follow-up offensive in Deir ez-Zur province and adjacent areas.13 Furthermore, the information operations aspect of the missile strike also reflects coordination between the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Syrian Baathist regime. In this respect, amidst the discussions about the operation’s success, pro-regime social media accounts shared videos of Iranian drone footage showing four missiles out of six hitting their targets.14


Harbingers of Iran’s Burgeoning Precision Strike Capabilities?
Displayed by Iran in September 2016, the Zolfiqar missile is one of the numerous derivatives of the Fateh-110, a 610 mm heavy guided-rocket that has been in production since the beginning of the 2000s. Iran has invested a lot in this class, extending its range and increasing its accuracy. Latest versions of the Fateh-110 have a range of around 200 to 300 km delivering a payload of some 500 kg.15 In 2015, a new version named Fateh–313, which has an extended range of 500km, was unveiled. Analysts estimated that the improvements in range probably resulted from lighter frame, smaller payload, and better flight characteristics.16 In line with the modernization uptrend in the Fateh line, a new member, the Zolfiqar missile followed the Fateh–313 within a year. When it was first displayed, analysts concluded that the Zolfiqar missile was probably an improved Fateh–313 with sub munitions warhead.17 In fact, according to IHS Jane’s’ reporting, the Iranian press sources’ misuse of the multiple re-entry vehicles (MRV) term is the most significant open source intel that suggested a sub-munitions warhead for the Zolfiqar line.18 The biggest unknown about the Zolfiqar missile is the range–payload equation. Back in 2016, initial estimates about the missile concluded that it was unlikely to have a 500km range (also either 600 km or 800 consistently) with a 500kg sub-munitions payload.19 Yet, the Iranians claimed the missile’s range some 700 km since its entry into service.20 In fact, the picture might be more complicated. Iranian sources’ reporting for the Zulfiqar missile, especially its 700 km range, has raised eyebrows. Firstly, beyond 500 km of range, a single-stage ballistic missile with non-separable warhead normally tends to be unstable, specifically during the reentry phase. Since Fateh-110 and their derivatives are designed for purely conventional missions –unlike the Scud-derivatives Shahab 1, 2, and 321– accuracy is of utmost importance for operational effectiveness. So, to increase the range of the missile, one might expect the Iranian scientists opting for equipping the Zolfiqar with separable warheads, optimizing the missiles for longer range ballistic trajectories. In fact, Iran has been developing maneuvering warheads for the Shahab-3 derivatives, such as the Emad missile.22 However, the existence of a separable warhead on Fateh family of missiles is not confirmed, at least through open-source intelligence. An alternative for a separable warhead is to prefer a quasi-ballistic trajectory. The advantage of this trajectory is to maintain the missile within the atmosphere during a longer part of its flight, enabling its guidance throughout the most of its trajectory. A quasi ballistic missile can conduct evasive maneuvers and achieve better accuracy by using GPS data for re-calculating and correcting the flight. Furthermore, slower homing speed of the missile in the final phase facilitates the use of terminal guidance technologies. Typically, and contrary to more traditional old generation short range ballistic missiles, modern heavy guided-rockets are specifically conceived for this kind of trajectory. Current versions of Fateh-110 (and consequently of Zolfiqar in all likelihood) are described as quasi-ballistic systems. But in this regard, considering the Zolfiqar case, increasing the range up to 700 km would probably require a major modification to give the missile a better lift-to-drag ratio. Besides, such a modification would necessitate intensive testing, and possibly, improved propulsion. Although this possibility raises particular concerns about Iran’s level of technology and know-how, the Zolfiqar missile’s modifications are still unknown. Alternatively, as explained below, the Zolfiqar missile might have a more limited range and may be considered as another derivative of the Fateh line, not a brand new capability. But even so, the technological trends behind the Zolfiqar development would still deserve utmost attention. Indeed, they will inevitably transform the very nature of the threat on the battlefield and in the theater.

A Mysterious Missile?
The above mentioned probability analysis of the Deir ez-Zur strike does not necessarily mean that a Fateh line derivative (Fateh-313 or a Zolfiqar) was not used since the distance between Iran’s Kermanshah province (border areas) and Deir ez-Zur is less than 550 km. In case the missiles were launched from the Kordestan province, the flight path can be reduced to less than 500 km. Therefore, following the assumption that Zulfiqar missiles were indeed used, the Deir ez-Zur strike does not point to Iran having managed to extend the range of its Fateh line well beyond 500 km. After all, the precise location of the missile launch is not known, at least publicly. At this point, the Israeli outlets, reporting the strike range around 800 km, can be dismissed if the missile is considered to be a known Fateh derivative. Otherwise, in an 800 km flight path scenario, the missile could be either a drastically improved, as yet unseen variant, or a Qiam missile, a liquid-fueled short-range ballistic missile derivative of the Scud-D with a triconic warhead and some 650kg payload.23 However, the accuracy of the Qiam is probably much lower than that of the Zolfiqar, leading to conclude that Qiam missiles were probably not used in such a strike. Because, for Operation Laylat al-Qadr, accuracy was the most important parameter which made the Zolfiqar missile the weapon of choice. Further questions revolving around the range of Zolfiqar missiles are also notable. Extending the range of the known Fateh-110 derivatives more than 130%, especially if the payload is not significantly reduced, would necessitate the intensive use of light materials, as well as drastic improvements in the propellant. Probably, current variants of the Fateh line use composite propellant, which already marks a significant evolution from the early versions introduced in the early 2000s. Those were believed to be propelled by double -based propellant.24 The continuing extension of the Fateh’s range, assuming that the Zolfiqar missile is the peak point of the line – even at lesser ranges than expected – may prove that Iran is now able to upgrade the efficiency of its composite propellant through the growing qualification of its engineers and sophistication of its industry.


Assessing the Trajectory
While it is not certainly confirmed that the Zolfiqar is a quasi-ballistic missile with some 600 – 700km range, still, this probability cannot be fully disregarded. The main advantage of a quasi-ballistic trajectory is to enable maneuvering of the missile, increasing its accuracy, and also deceiving missile defenses that are optimized for countering ballistic missile threats. This trend has already been followed by several missile powers. In this segment, Russia, with its SS-26 Iskander,25 is clearly leading the way. India, with the Shaurya missile, is currently exploring this technology. All these systems can also engage in terminal maneuvers when closing to their targets. Therefore, the conception of similar systems by Iran, using the Fateh line, should be taken into consideration. Iran is confronted with massive missile defense deployments by its regional competitors and lacks high-end inertial navigation technology. It is thus unable to significantly reduce the inaccuracy of its ballistic missile arsenal, even at shorter ranges. Hence, Iranian defense planners have opted for initiating research activities that focus on maneuvering technologies both for long range (i.e. the Emad missile with a -maneuverable re-entry vehicle)26 and short range systems (i.e. the Fateh line, with quasi ballistic trajectories or terminal maneuvers). While most of the studies analyzing Iranian missile trends tend to focus on longer range ballistic trajectories and separable, maneuvering warheads, Iran’s shorter range quasi-ballistic guided-rockets and missiles pose a real threat especially in geographically smaller theaters of the Middle East. Moreover, these systems’ several advantages over traditional missile defenses broadens Tehran’s military options.


What Iran Can Learn from the Deir ez-Zur Strike?
Without a doubt, the strike on Deir ez-Zur will provide Tehran with important lessons learned. Indeed, it may bolster Iran’s strategic operations, confirming that long-range conventional strikes are technically feasible with existing technology. Using maneuverable systems more frequently for such operations, as well as increasing the range of these systems, would pave the ground for breakthroughs in Iranian offensive missile options. At this point, in light of the discussions hitherto, a key question should be answered: did the Iranian (Zolfiqar) missiles manage to precisely hit their targets? To have a clear idea about the actual outcomes of the Zolfiqar missiles launch, we need a reliable battle damage assessment of the target set, which would primarily depend on imagery intelligence (IMINT). So far, the only tangible piece of evidence available is a video footage, probably obtained by an Iranian drone loitering over the target area.27 Therefore, it remains to be seen how Western and Israeli intelligence agencies will analyze the evidence, and of course, if their analyses will be publicly available. In this regard, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of Staff, Lieutenant General Gadi Eisenkot belittled the strike, indicating that the operational achievement was much smaller than Iranian sources reported.28 On the other hand, so far, there has been no alternative visual evidence provided by parties likely to identify the Iranian missile launch as a possible threat, such as Saudi Arabia, Israel, or the US. Such a move could have rendered Iran’s political signaling and muscle-flexing efforts abortive. Thus, unless an alternative battle damage assessment is presented with IMINT evidence, we can assume that most of the Zolfiqar missiles indeed struck the ISIS targets in Deir ez-Zur. So far, video uploads of the drone footage of the strike already suggests that four of the launched missiles scored hits.

Political – Military Assessment: Iran Challenging the Regional Missile Defense Architecture
Broadly speaking, Iran is developing a capacity that would allow it to intervene in its neighborhood through deep strike and precision strike capabilities. Iranian sources highlighted four key points about the missile strike: firstly, it was carried out by the Revolutionary Guards; secondly, although the strike targeted ‘Takfiri terror outfits’ in Syria, it should also send a message to Saudi Arabia regarding the US’ recent multi -billion dollars arms sales to Riyadh, thirdly, it was ‘medium-range ballistic missiles’ that were used in the mission,30 and finally, the Deir ez-Zur case tangibly showed Iran’s deterrence capacity.31 In fact, given the above mentioned official explanations, it is argued that the Iranians have been also pursuing political signaling objectives amidst mounting regional fluctuations in the Middle East. In other words, Tehran, specifically the Revolutionary Guards, have conducted their brand of ‘missile diplomacy’ through the Deir ez-Zur strike. For instance, Iran’s Foreign Minister Javad Zarif celebrated the operation by tweeting “Iran's missile capability protects its citizens in lawful self-defense & advances common global fight to eradicate ISIS & extremist terror”.32 Supreme Leader Khamenei’s rhetoric was more defiant, posting “know that they can never bring us down, but that we will bring them down” with a Deir ezZur hashtag.33 By all means, such a course of action seems ‘inspired’ from Russia’s Kalibr cruise missile launches – and show of force – from the Mediterranean and the Caspian in the course of the Syrian civil war. In parallel, the strike is of critical importance for estimating Iran’s current and prospective offensive capabilities. Simply put, the trends in Zulfiqar missiles modernization would give Iran an adequate weapon for covering key US bases in the region, as well as the Saudi capital Riyadh.34 If the missiles were to be transferred to Iranian proxies, first and foremost the Lebanese Hezbollah, then Israel will have to face a grave national security threat. The transfer of early Fateh-110 variants to Syria, and presumably to Hezbollah, is already considered an existing challenge by the Israelis. Finally, the Deir ez-Zur strike could mark the need for revisiting the effectiveness of the missile defense architectures and related strategic thinking of the Gulf Arab nations, as well as the US. Although maneuverable missiles can be intercepted, current missile defense architectures deployed against Iranian missiles are not precisely adapted to the evolving characteristics of the threat itself and better fitted to engage Scud based ballistic missiles. In this respect, being lighter, more mobile, much more accurate, and cheaper than old Scud-based missiles, the Fateh line challenges the traditional missile defense paradigm in the Middle East. In case Iran opts for transferring the Fateh-line derivatives to the Houthies in Yemen, this risk may be operationally demonstrated.

Conclusion
All in all, the Syrian civil war offered a wartime testing laboratory for the regime’s Scuds, the Russians’ Kalibr cruise missiles, and recently, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards’ Zulfiqar ballistic missiles. The Iranian missile strike was a milestone in many aspects. Drastic sophistication of the Fateh family of missiles can be translated into a clear battlefield advantage for the Iranians at tactical and operational levels, especially when employed in salvo launches. Furthermore, the Fateh line, including Zolfiqar missiles at the highest-end, are road-mobile, have short launch-cycles, and might be produced in high quantities which confer additional tactical advantages. The modernization trends from the Zelzal rockets to Fateh-110, Fateh-313, and finally to Zulfiqar missiles hints at what might come next in Iran’s solid-fuel ballistic missile inventory. The expertise gained in solid-fuel designs could be partially translated into the development of more sophisticated and longer range solid-fuel missiles, such as Sejjil–2 type missiles with some 2,000km range and potentially more.

At this point, there are key questions that the Western strategic community should address:

-Which guidance, propellant, and missile design advances enabled the recent Zolfiqar developments?

-Was there key technology and know-how transfer to Iran that boosted its solid-fuel short-range missiles program recently? If not, to what extend Iran’s national R&D and industrial capabilities are able to sustain such missile programs?

-Is Iran able to develop such technologies alone, or mostly alone? If so, what kind of impacts are to be expected in terms of proliferation of shorter range systems in near future?

-In a broader sense, what would be the operational impacts of the above mentioned trends on Iran’s neighbors and their military modernization programs? In fact, without finding accurate answers to the above mentioned questions, considering Iran a merely proliferating state, which is unable to progress without foreign assistance, could be a dangerous mistake with high costs. More importantly, one should re-think the biggest question about the Iranian missile developments: what comes next?
 
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Published by Foundation for Strategic Research, a (military and defense-related) Think Tank founded by Pierre Joxe, a former french defense minister:

full article:
Thinking Twice about Iran’s Missile Trends: The Threat is Real but Different than Predicted.pdf

Abstract
Iran’s recent strike, targeting ISIS positions in Deir ez-Zur, Syria, reveals the sophisticated nature of Tehran’s solid-fueled missile systems. It shows that the threat is real, yet different from what has been generally estimated by the Western strategic community. Traditional assessments regarding Iran’s missile capabilities have been mostly focusing on longer-range systems, tending to neglect shorter range assets. On the other hand, this report analyzes that Iran’s solid-fueled short-range missiles and rockets, which were primarily designed for actual operational use, rather than building deterrence, are now significantly improving in range and accuracy. Such a breakthrough would provide the Revolutionary Guards with conventional deep and precision strike capabilities not only on the battlefield but also in the theater. Furthermore, Iran’s burgeoning capabilities are seriously challenging the Gulf’s existing missile defense architecture. Under these circumstances, the military strategic balance in the region should be revisited.

Introduction
On June 18, 2017, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps launched surface-to-surface missiles from Kordestan and Kermanshah provinces, west of Iran, targeting ISIS positions in Deir ez-Zur, eastern Syria.1 Iranian sources reported a religiously symbolic code name for the operation, Laylat al Qadr.2 Top figures of the Iranian military and security establishment welcomed the missile attack. The Revolutionary Guards’ spokesperson, General Ramezan Sharif said that the strike was “only a tiny example of Iran’s punitive power”.3 More importantly, General Sharif hinted at the possibilities of more missile strikes as ‘crushing responses’.4 The Iranian Armed Forces Chief of Staff, General Mohammad Bagheri claimed that Iran was one of the biggest missile powers of the world.5 Missiles have a key role even in domestic political debates in Iran. Recently, during a rhetorical exchange with President Rouhani, the Revolutionary Guards did not refrain from portraying themselves a power not only with guns but also with missiles.6 Amidst tension in the Middle East, the missile strike has both political and military importance. It came after terrorist attacks in Tehran, and military escalation between the US and the Assad regime in Syria. Even more importantly, it is revealing the trajectory of Iranian ballistic missile modernization and evolution. Thus, it offers a real insight into the future missile threat landscape in the region.


The Flightpath Question
Although there are some alternative explanations, most open-source evidence suggests that the Iranians’ missile of choice was the Zolfiqar, a solid-propellant Fateh-line derivative. Some Israeli press sources reported that a mix of Zolfiqar and Qiam – a Scud C derivative –, and even Shahab-3 missiles may have been used,7 although the latter would be highly unlikely. Israeli press sources, most probably the closest monitor of Iran’s missile proliferation, told that the missiles, which hit Deir ez-Zur, flew around 800 km over the Iraqi airspace to strike ISIS targets in the city. According to the referenced sources, it was Tehran’s first operational use of medium-range ballistic missiles since the Iran-Iraq war,8 although the suggested range falls under the short-range category as it is below the widely-accepted threshold of +1,000km for medium range ballistic missiles. Nevertheless, Iranian sources suggested a shorter flight path of some 650 km from launch positions located in the west of the country.9 Tasnim news agency, an Iranian outlet with the Revolutionary Guards connections, reported that the missile strike was coordinated with the Baathist regime of Syria.10 In fact, this was an operational necessity not only because the Zolfiqar missiles were fired into the Syrian airspace through the Iraqi border, but also due to Assad’s forces’ (mostly besieged) presence in Deir ez-Zour.11 Despite the Iranian sources’ claims indicating that 360 ISIS terrorists were killed12 seem pretty much exaggerated, both the presence of an Iranian drone over the target area for battle damage assessment and coordination with the Syrian regime forces show a fairly professional planning of the mission. Notably, following the missile strike, Iranian outlets reported the Assad regime’s follow-up offensive in Deir ez-Zur province and adjacent areas.13 Furthermore, the information operations aspect of the missile strike also reflects coordination between the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Syrian Baathist regime. In this respect, amidst the discussions about the operation’s success, pro-regime social media accounts shared videos of Iranian drone footage showing four missiles out of six hitting their targets.14


Harbingers of Iran’s Burgeoning Precision Strike Capabilities?
Displayed by Iran in September 2016, the Zolfiqar missile is one of the numerous derivatives of the Fateh-110, a 610 mm heavy guided-rocket that has been in production since the beginning of the 2000s. Iran has invested a lot in this class, extending its range and increasing its accuracy. Latest versions of the Fateh-110 have a range of around 200 to 300 km delivering a payload of some 500 kg.15 In 2015, a new version named Fateh–313, which has an extended range of 500km, was unveiled. Analysts estimated that the improvements in range probably resulted from lighter frame, smaller payload, and better flight characteristics.16 In line with the modernization uptrend in the Fateh line, a new member, the Zolfiqar missile followed the Fateh–313 within a year. When it was first displayed, analysts concluded that the Zolfiqar missile was probably an improved Fateh–313 with sub munitions warhead.17 In fact, according to IHS Jane’s’ reporting, the Iranian press sources’ misuse of the multiple re-entry vehicles (MRV) term is the most significant open source intel that suggested a sub-munitions warhead for the Zolfiqar line.18 The biggest unknown about the Zolfiqar missile is the range–payload equation. Back in 2016, initial estimates about the missile concluded that it was unlikely to have a 500km range (also either 600 km or 800 consistently) with a 500kg sub-munitions payload.19 Yet, the Iranians claimed the missile’s range some 700 km since its entry into service.20 In fact, the picture might be more complicated. Iranian sources’ reporting for the Zulfiqar missile, especially its 700 km range, has raised eyebrows. Firstly, beyond 500 km of range, a single-stage ballistic missile with non-separable warhead normally tends to be unstable, specifically during the reentry phase. Since Fateh-110 and their derivatives are designed for purely conventional missions –unlike the Scud-derivatives Shahab 1, 2, and 321– accuracy is of utmost importance for operational effectiveness. So, to increase the range of the missile, one might expect the Iranian scientists opting for equipping the Zolfiqar with separable warheads, optimizing the missiles for longer range ballistic trajectories. In fact, Iran has been developing maneuvering warheads for the Shahab-3 derivatives, such as the Emad missile.22 However, the existence of a separable warhead on Fateh family of missiles is not confirmed, at least through open-source intelligence. An alternative for a separable warhead is to prefer a quasi-ballistic trajectory. The advantage of this trajectory is to maintain the missile within the atmosphere during a longer part of its flight, enabling its guidance throughout the most of its trajectory. A quasi ballistic missile can conduct evasive maneuvers and achieve better accuracy by using GPS data for re-calculating and correcting the flight. Furthermore, slower homing speed of the missile in the final phase facilitates the use of terminal guidance technologies. Typically, and contrary to more traditional old generation short range ballistic missiles, modern heavy guided-rockets are specifically conceived for this kind of trajectory. Current versions of Fateh-110 (and consequently of Zolfiqar in all likelihood) are described as quasi-ballistic systems. But in this regard, considering the Zolfiqar case, increasing the range up to 700 km would probably require a major modification to give the missile a better lift-to-drag ratio. Besides, such a modification would necessitate intensive testing, and possibly, improved propulsion. Although this possibility raises particular concerns about Iran’s level of technology and know-how, the Zolfiqar missile’s modifications are still unknown. Alternatively, as explained below, the Zolfiqar missile might have a more limited range and may be considered as another derivative of the Fateh line, not a brand new capability. But even so, the technological trends behind the Zolfiqar development would still deserve utmost attention. Indeed, they will inevitably transform the very nature of the threat on the battlefield and in the theater.

A Mysterious Missile?
The above mentioned probability analysis of the Deir ez-Zur strike does not necessarily mean that a Fateh line derivative (Fateh-313 or a Zolfiqar) was not used since the distance between Iran’s Kermanshah province (border areas) and Deir ez-Zur is less than 550 km. In case the missiles were launched from the Kordestan province, the flight path can be reduced to less than 500 km. Therefore, following the assumption that Zulfiqar missiles were indeed used, the Deir ez-Zur strike does not point to Iran having managed to extend the range of its Fateh line well beyond 500 km. After all, the precise location of the missile launch is not known, at least publicly. At this point, the Israeli outlets, reporting the strike range around 800 km, can be dismissed if the missile is considered to be a known Fateh derivative. Otherwise, in an 800 km flight path scenario, the missile could be either a drastically improved, as yet unseen variant, or a Qiam missile, a liquid-fueled short-range ballistic missile derivative of the Scud-D with a triconic warhead and some 650kg payload.23 However, the accuracy of the Qiam is probably much lower than that of the Zolfiqar, leading to conclude that Qiam missiles were probably not used in such a strike. Because, for Operation Laylat al-Qadr, accuracy was the most important parameter which made the Zolfiqar missile the weapon of choice. Further questions revolving around the range of Zolfiqar missiles are also notable. Extending the range of the known Fateh-110 derivatives more than 130%, especially if the payload is not significantly reduced, would necessitate the intensive use of light materials, as well as drastic improvements in the propellant. Probably, current variants of the Fateh line use composite propellant, which already marks a significant evolution from the early versions introduced in the early 2000s. Those were believed to be propelled by double -based propellant.24 The continuing extension of the Fateh’s range, assuming that the Zolfiqar missile is the peak point of the line – even at lesser ranges than expected – may prove that Iran is now able to upgrade the efficiency of its composite propellant through the growing qualification of its engineers and sophistication of its industry.


Assessing the Trajectory
While it is not certainly confirmed that the Zolfiqar is a quasi-ballistic missile with some 600 – 700km range, still, this probability cannot be fully disregarded. The main advantage of a quasi-ballistic trajectory is to enable maneuvering of the missile, increasing its accuracy, and also deceiving missile defenses that are optimized for countering ballistic missile threats. This trend has already been followed by several missile powers. In this segment, Russia, with its SS-26 Iskander,25 is clearly leading the way. India, with the Shaurya missile, is currently exploring this technology. All these systems can also engage in terminal maneuvers when closing to their targets. Therefore, the conception of similar systems by Iran, using the Fateh line, should be taken into consideration. Iran is confronted with massive missile defense deployments by its regional competitors and lacks high-end inertial navigation technology. It is thus unable to significantly reduce the inaccuracy of its ballistic missile arsenal, even at shorter ranges. Hence, Iranian defense planners have opted for initiating research activities that focus on maneuvering technologies both for long range (i.e. the Emad missile with a -maneuverable re-entry vehicle)26 and short range systems (i.e. the Fateh line, with quasi ballistic trajectories or terminal maneuvers). While most of the studies analyzing Iranian missile trends tend to focus on longer range ballistic trajectories and separable, maneuvering warheads, Iran’s shorter range quasi-ballistic guided-rockets and missiles pose a real threat especially in geographically smaller theaters of the Middle East. Moreover, these systems’ several advantages over traditional missile defenses broadens Tehran’s military options.


What Iran Can Learn from the Deir ez-Zur Strike?
Without a doubt, the strike on Deir ez-Zur will provide Tehran with important lessons learned. Indeed, it may bolster Iran’s strategic operations, confirming that long-range conventional strikes are technically feasible with existing technology. Using maneuverable systems more frequently for such operations, as well as increasing the range of these systems, would pave the ground for breakthroughs in Iranian offensive missile options. At this point, in light of the discussions hitherto, a key question should be answered: did the Iranian (Zolfiqar) missiles manage to precisely hit their targets? To have a clear idea about the actual outcomes of the Zolfiqar missiles launch, we need a reliable battle damage assessment of the target set, which would primarily depend on imagery intelligence (IMINT). So far, the only tangible piece of evidence available is a video footage, probably obtained by an Iranian drone loitering over the target area.27 Therefore, it remains to be seen how Western and Israeli intelligence agencies will analyze the evidence, and of course, if their analyses will be publicly available. In this regard, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of Staff, Lieutenant General Gadi Eisenkot belittled the strike, indicating that the operational achievement was much smaller than Iranian sources reported.28 On the other hand, so far, there has been no alternative visual evidence provided by parties likely to identify the Iranian missile launch as a possible threat, such as Saudi Arabia, Israel, or the US. Such a move could have rendered Iran’s political signaling and muscle-flexing efforts abortive. Thus, unless an alternative battle damage assessment is presented with IMINT evidence, we can assume that most of the Zolfiqar missiles indeed struck the ISIS targets in Deir ez-Zur. So far, video uploads of the drone footage of the strike already suggests that four of the launched missiles scored hits.

Political – Military Assessment: Iran Challenging the Regional Missile Defense Architecture
Broadly speaking, Iran is developing a capacity that would allow it to intervene in its neighborhood through deep strike and precision strike capabilities. Iranian sources highlighted four key points about the missile strike: firstly, it was carried out by the Revolutionary Guards; secondly, although the strike targeted ‘Takfiri terror outfits’ in Syria, it should also send a message to Saudi Arabia regarding the US’ recent multi -billion dollars arms sales to Riyadh, thirdly, it was ‘medium-range ballistic missiles’ that were used in the mission,30 and finally, the Deir ez-Zur case tangibly showed Iran’s deterrence capacity.31 In fact, given the above mentioned official explanations, it is argued that the Iranians have been also pursuing political signaling objectives amidst mounting regional fluctuations in the Middle East. In other words, Tehran, specifically the Revolutionary Guards, have conducted their brand of ‘missile diplomacy’ through the Deir ez-Zur strike. For instance, Iran’s Foreign Minister Javad Zarif celebrated the operation by tweeting “Iran's missile capability protects its citizens in lawful self-defense & advances common global fight to eradicate ISIS & extremist terror”.32 Supreme Leader Khamenei’s rhetoric was more defiant, posting “know that they can never bring us down, but that we will bring them down” with a Deir ezZur hashtag.33 By all means, such a course of action seems ‘inspired’ from Russia’s Kalibr cruise missile launches – and show of force – from the Mediterranean and the Caspian in the course of the Syrian civil war. In parallel, the strike is of critical importance for estimating Iran’s current and prospective offensive capabilities. Simply put, the trends in Zulfiqar missiles modernization would give Iran an adequate weapon for covering key US bases in the region, as well as the Saudi capital Riyadh.34 If the missiles were to be transferred to Iranian proxies, first and foremost the Lebanese Hezbollah, then Israel will have to face a grave national security threat. The transfer of early Fateh-110 variants to Syria, and presumably to Hezbollah, is already considered an existing challenge by the Israelis. Finally, the Deir ez-Zur strike could mark the need for revisiting the effectiveness of the missile defense architectures and related strategic thinking of the Gulf Arab nations, as well as the US. Although maneuverable missiles can be intercepted, current missile defense architectures deployed against Iranian missiles are not precisely adapted to the evolving characteristics of the threat itself and better fitted to engage Scud based ballistic missiles. In this respect, being lighter, more mobile, much more accurate, and cheaper than old Scud-based missiles, the Fateh line challenges the traditional missile defense paradigm in the Middle East. In case Iran opts for transferring the Fateh-line derivatives to the Houthies in Yemen, this risk may be operationally demonstrated.

Conclusion
All in all, the Syrian civil war offered a wartime testing laboratory for the regime’s Scuds, the Russians’ Kalibr cruise missiles, and recently, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards’ Zulfiqar ballistic missiles. The Iranian missile strike was a milestone in many aspects. Drastic sophistication of the Fateh family of missiles can be translated into a clear battlefield advantage for the Iranians at tactical and operational levels, especially when employed in salvo launches. Furthermore, the Fateh line, including Zolfiqar missiles at the highest-end, are road-mobile, have short launch-cycles, and might be produced in high quantities which confer additional tactical advantages. The modernization trends from the Zelzal rockets to Fateh-110, Fateh-313, and finally to Zulfiqar missiles hints at what might come next in Iran’s solid-fuel ballistic missile inventory. The expertise gained in solid-fuel designs could be partially translated into the development of more sophisticated and longer range solid-fuel missiles, such as Sejjil–2 type missiles with some 2,000km range and potentially more.

At this point, there are key questions that the Western strategic community should address:

-Which guidance, propellant, and missile design advances enabled the recent Zolfiqar developments?

-Was there key technology and know-how transfer to Iran that boosted its solid-fuel short-range missiles program recently? If not, to what extend Iran’s national R&D and industrial capabilities are able to sustain such missile programs?

-Is Iran able to develop such technologies alone, or mostly alone? If so, what kind of impacts are to be expected in terms of proliferation of shorter range systems in near future?

-In a broader sense, what would be the operational impacts of the above mentioned trends on Iran’s neighbors and their military modernization programs? In fact, without finding accurate answers to the above mentioned questions, considering Iran a merely proliferating state, which is unable to progress without foreign assistance, could be a dangerous mistake with high costs. More importantly, one should re-think the biggest question about the Iranian missile developments: what comes next?

Now this is what you call a proper assessment.
 
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به گزارش رجانیوز،ساعاتی پس از آنکه حسن روحانی در چرخشی 180 درجه ای نسبت به سخنان قبلی خود درباره «موشک»، گفت: «موشک را کی درست کرد؟ سازنده این موشک دولت و وزارت دفاع است و پول آن را بخش اقتصادی کشور تامین می‌کند.» سعید جلیلی بدون نام آوردن از روحانی، در کانال تلگرام خود نوشت:

«بعضی ها بلافاصله وقتی که موفقیتی به دست می‌آید، ظاهر می شوند! همین‌هایی که از زیر بار مسؤولیت شانه خالی می‌کنند: « الَّذينَ يَتَرَبَّصُونَ بِکُمْ فَإِنْ کانَ لَکُمْ فَتْحٌ مِنَ اللَّهِ قالُوا أَ لَمْ نَکُنْ مَعَکُمْ ». تعبیر قرآن است که می‌گوید اینها نگاه می‌کنند و اگر دیدند موفقیتی حاصل شد و غنائمی به دست آمد، آن وقت می‌گویند ما که بودیم! کسانی دیگر هم هستند که ظاهراً با شما هستند: «و من الناس من يقول آمنا بالله». اما اگر مشکلاتی پیش بیاید « فَإِذَا أُوذِيَ فِي اللَّهِ». یک دفعه می‌گویند چه شد؟ « جَعَلَ فِتْنَةَ النَّاسِ كَعَذَابِ اللَّهِ». می‌گویند چرا این طور شد؟ چرا این مشکلات پیش آمد؟ چقدر هزینه بدهیم؟ اما اگر از آن طرف پیروزی کسب شود، «جاءَ نَصْرٌ مِنْ رَبِّکَ لَیَقُولُنَّ إِنَّا کُنَّا مَعَکُمْ». می‌گویند ما که از اول با شما بودیم! اصلاً ما هم بودیم.»



it depends!
whether destroying tens of billions of our nuclear infrastructures and postponing our advancement for decades in return of nothing is a treason or not!
whether shutting down our space program in return of nothing is a treason or not!
whether undermining security forces in the region like middle east is a treason or not.
whether unprecedented imports / shutting down of domestic factories / fabricating numbers to fool people is a treason or not.
whether appointing corrupted peoples (Crescent deal) as our oil minister is a treason or not.
whether supporting of MKO terrorists which have killed 17000 Iranian is a treason or not.


My answer is :without doubt.
Mr.Mohsen, please calm down. First of all, as a long term secretary of Iran's NSC, Rouhani understands(generally)Iran's security issues and needs, so while i can agree he hasnt been extra "supportive" of aggressive, IRGC backed ME security policy, he is not against Iran being militarily strong or capable of effective of deterrence. Also, you have to understand, that Rouhani helped get Iran out of a cornered position. The UN and US sanctions were biting VERY hard, China, Russia and India were not doing enough to give Iran considerable relief, the economy couldnt get any growth, internal support for the Iranian govt from all this was not that good(even though it wasnt very bad either) so Rouhani's govt had to help Iran get out of a horrible, boxed in situation. He might have "shut down" the space program because we all know space program also doubles as ballistic/ICBM missile research/experimentation(and besides, with the toll of sanctions, Iran might have had to "reprioritize" other aspects of its economy). Domestic factories being shut? well that wasnt Rouhani's fault, that was the result of years of harsh economic environment that wasnt helped by international sanctions(and we all know the dollar is inevitable for international trade). If Iran rushed to the nuclear weapon, Iran would probably be a mini North Korea now. Iran still possesses strong conventional military capabilities that deters many countries so Iran didnt lose all. Lets be real Mohsen, in this day and age, if your economy is sanctioned up and you dont do trade with the world, your country is dying, slowly.Lastly, Rouhani has helped Iran's image alot, and we all know image means alot. Better image mean better leverage and outcomes and Iran needs that badly and has started getting that more now. Everybody was taking big advantage of Iran due to the sanctions so Rouhani's moves helped deleverage those manipulative countries(China and India).Its a new day, and Iran needs to do more engagements with the world out in the open, in public fora. Tbh, i even think Iran won because Iran gave up a potential, not a reality while the world/US gave Iran tons of cash and lots of access to the outside world. Iran still has the nuclear technology/bomb knowledge now and never built an actual nuclear weapon so what did Iran really give up? Who told you Iran stilll doesnt have any secret nuclear facilities running now?lol
 
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