Got it.Ukrainians used their cold war era soviet artillery(since at that time they had no western made artillery systems) and 8 Bayraktars to destroy entire Russian armor.Small,mobile groups armed with ATGMs had absolutely no part in that whatsoever,pinning them and making them easy targets for artillery strikes.While Russians were installing cages on their tanks to protect themselves from artillery shells and drones.
Yes they used primarily artillery, their own tanks, and MLRS to hold back the Russians. It wasn’t NLAWs and Javelins that stopped Russians in their tracks that’s preposterous.
Artillery is artillery. A 152/155mm/etc. shell fired from a 1970’s cannon is no different than your “western made artillery systems”. The difference is distance in light, medium, and heavy cannons. Russia had benefit of heavy artillery systems (200MM) shells/systems which allowed them to fire further than Ukrainian artillery. Guess what? They were from Soviet Union era and were destroying Ukraine hence why US had to deliver HIMARS to offset Russians heavy artillery and more advanced MLRS systems like TOS-1.
Ukraine had 2000+ artillery pieces + MLRS systems as well before start of war. You act like Ukraine was a poor military. It was literally one of the backbones of Soviet Union. Iran acquired its Kh-55 missiles from Ukraine. Ukraine had a decent defense industry prior to the war. The problem with Ukraine was always corruption and cronyism.
"The opening phase of the war in Ukraine was marked by the dramatic images of torched Russian vehicles. Videos showed ambushes against Russian columns with small Ukrainian teams consisting of machine gunners, snipers, and ATGM teams in strikes that were reminiscent of the tactics employed by Chechen forces in Grozny in 1994.
Please stop quoting Western propaganda. They also said a farmer shot a SU-35 out of the air with a rifle!
That the ‘ghost of kiyv’ shot down tens of Russian fighter jets out of sky.
Reality is Ukraine has lost 100,000 soldiers since the war began. They are losing 100+ troops per day in defense of Bakhmut alone. Of course your propaganda articles will not mention it.
In some instances, it appears that the more advanced anti-tank weapons provided to Ukraine, such as the NLAW or Javelin, were used to engage the lead and last vehicle of a Russian column. Often, the lead vehicles would be heavily armoured tanks and their successful defeat would ensure that the whole column was brought to a halt. For this reason, the more advanced weapons with a higher kill probability were used to provide a reasonable guarantee of success."
There was a 200+ Russian armoured column sitting outside Kiyv with a month of the war. The primary issue with Russian military (which was many) was not enough manpower against a country that did a full mobilization.
It is basic knowledge at military academy level that the attacking force should have a 3 to 1 advantage in manpower when trying to capture a city/town/point in order to overcome defender advantage. Ukraine had 10 to 1 manpower advantage at some points in the front line. That makes a huge decisive difference.
Furthermore, Loads of videos of captured Javelins and NLAWs. Many were sold by Ukrainian soldiers to arms dealers to get their families out of the country. There was zero tracking of what happened to those arms after they weee delivered.
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5500 javelin systems were delivered to Ukraine. If it was as deadly as you say, then Ukraine had more javelins available than Russian mechanized armour used in the invasion.
Britain has given Ukraine 10,000 anti tank missiles since the war began.
"Few and far between"?In March alone,already there were dozens of videos about both systems being extensively used in combat.
I don’t recall dozens of such videos, especially since Ukraine implemented a cell phone ban to prevent Russia from electronic tracking troop positions and cracked down on civilian photography of Russian missile strikes by making it illegal to film.
I can tell you of “dozens” of videos of Russian troops capturing unused javelins and nlaws in the large numbers.
You sure about the range of NLAW,lol?
Effective recommended range is up to 400 meters. Anything beyond is pushing the limit of what is recommended and accuracy becomes more and more questionable.
The SAAB NLAW is a light and portable anti-armor weapon, developed for the average foot soldier. Its Swedish designation is Pansarvarnsrobot 57, or RB 57. It can be used against enemy tanks, armored vehicles, buildings and field fortifications.
www.military-today.com
What I am saying is that both of those systems are far better and more effective than any man portable weapon in your current inventory.
Considering you didn’t really even know the range of NLAW, I question how much you even know about these arms outside of western propaganda articles.
They are not “far” better than Iranian arms. They are effective arms don’t get me wrong, I am not saying they do not work. I should make that clear. However, overhyping and making them seem like gamechanging superior weapons is purely propaganda.
Look at variants of Toophan, Almas, Dehlavieh variants, and various RPG types (RPG-29 & RPG-32) and the various warheads for it Iran produces at a fraction of cost of NLAW or Javelin that are just as capable as these arms or at worse slightly inferior in certain areas, but much cheaper and still able to knock out a western tank.
Latest Dehlavieh variants were made with Israeli armour in mind and given to Hezbollah to test, everyone knows Merkava-4 is one of the strongest and toughest tanks in the world.
Lastly Iran focuses on PGMs since threat of land invasion or land war is remote, it has one of the most diverse and extensive PGM programs in the world for use by drones, helicopters, aircraft.
I challenge you to find another country that is thinking outside of the box and developing cheap yet effective solutions such as 358 missle. A loitering anti air missile that can be launched from the ground by a small crew and has been used to down overhyped western drones/helicopters/aircraft in Yemen.
www.army-technology.com
www.saab.com
