Iran turns into superpower

[Piotr]

Let me tell you something. In a conventional war Just 1 USN Carrier strike group is more then enough to cripple entire Iranian military! Vintage F-14 F-4 F-5 dont stand a chance against F-18s

As if aircrafts are the only assets Iran has.

that is if they ever get a chance to take off after cruise missiles bomb the sh1t out of your airfields

And Iran can't attack US airfields ? Yemenis successfully defeated US air defences and damaged biggest refinery in Saudi Arabia. While US cruise missile attack failed to inflict any significant demage to Syria.

and then electronic warfare attack by Growler will fry anything on its path.

You are watching to much US/CIA Hollywood propaganda movies.
US millitary is only good in Hollywood movies. In real life it sucks. They losed to Vietnam, they are losing to Afganistan and Iraq, they losed to Syria. US militarymen are only good in torturing civilians and supporting terrorism (eg. USA founded Daesh).

US Secretary of State Kissinger described US military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy"

 

[Mithridates]

In a conventional war Just 1 USN Carrier strike group is more then enough to cripple entire Iranian military! Vintage F-14 F-4 F-5 dont stand a chance against F-18

are you sure??

 

[Myth_buster_1]

As if aircrafts are the only assets Iran has.

Oh I forgot the Irani stealth fighters hidden in tunnels.

And Iran can't attack US airfields ? Yemenis successfully defeated US air defences and damaged biggest refinery in Saudi Arabia. While US cruise missile attack failed to inflict any significant demage to Syria.

I am astonished by your delusions.
We all know that KSA was well aware of Yemenis attack and they could have easily avoided it but sometimes you have to create false narrative to justify WAR which Isreal is master of. This is exactly what west wants Irani generals to believe that they can so easily penetrate air defence like hot knife through butter.

You are watching to much US/CIA Hollywood propaganda movies.
US millitary is only good in Hollywood movies. In real life it sucks. They losed to Vietnam, they are losing to Afganistan and Iraq, they losed to Syria. US militarymen are only good in torturing civilians and supporting terrorism (eg. USA founded Daesh).

No dude, its the reality. No country including China Russia put together can not defeat US military in conventional war! They are just too technological superior however that may change soon with China in next 10-15 years. And I have already made it clear that in unconventional warfare US sucks.

US Secretary of State Kissinger described US military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy"

Someone's opinion even if it is President does not matter much.
Look, Iran has a long way to go from becoming regional super power and you dont have to be so delusional.

are you sure??

This beast does not even have to fire anything at vintage Irani F-14s, it will just fry the balls out of F-14 from miles away! Heck all of Irani AAM have surpassed its self life and are useless to any modern fighter self protection systems.

 

[Mithridates]

This beast does not even have to fire anything at vintage Irani F-14s, it will just fry the balls out of F-14 from miles away!

all f-14 versions were better than hurnets. and f-14 was newer design than f-15 and f-16s.

Heck all of Irani AAM have surpassed its self life

and are useless to any modern fighter self protection systems.

tell that to mq-4, he is upset of why it's self protection unit didn't work.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

all f-14 versions were better than hurnets. and f-14 was newer design than f-15 and f-16s.

So US decided to phase out "better" f-14s before F-18 F-15 and F-16 almost 15 years ago and all of sudden Iran has better air fleet with 25 or so F-14s. Great!
Oh btw, The super hornet are a new design from inside and out.

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Thats a 40 Year old AIM-54 Phoenix with redesigned pointless huge fins.

tell that to mq-4, he is upset of why it's self protection unit didn't work.

A slow moving drone that was within IR and visual sight is not a huge achievement. Even ragtag yemenis have been blowing saudi flying objects out of the skys that were within IR and visual sights. In that case then that makes Yemen a regional super power as well.

 

[Mithridates]

So US decided to phase out "better" f-14s

yes. if you don't believe me ask someone in USAF or USNAF.

and all of sudden Iran has better air fleet with 25 or so F-14s. Great!

not better air force, you compared a carrier fleet with whole of our fleet.

Thats a 40 Year old AIM-54 Phoenix with redesigned pointless huge fins.

that image depicts fakour, sejjil and aim-9. only sidewinder is old. however still many air forces use that version.
and AIM-54 is better that AIM-120, it's just a little heavier than that.

A slow moving drone that was within IR and visual sight is not a huge achievement. Even ragtag yemenis have been blowing saudi flying objects out of the skys that were within IR and visual sights. In that case then that makes Yemen a regional super power as well.

it's not slow moving, it's speed was close to any other fighter jet out their and it was flying at ~15 km altitude. BTW you were saying how effective US EW is and i stated a factual event.
lol it was in visual range??

 

[TheImmortal]

F-14 can defeat F-18 in combat due to the fact that F-14 can climb faster and higher and kill the F-18 from above.

Reason why F-14 was phased out was because of costly maintenance and at the end of the day F-18 provided nearly the same results at a better efficiency. Also military politics played a HUGE role in airforce awarding F-18 as the fighter of the future.

F-14 was never retired due to obsoleteness.

Also F-14 was made in large part to confront fast moving Soviet Migs. After collapse of Soviet Union, that niche died.

 

[Mithridates]

F-14 can defeat F-18 in combat due to the fact that F-14 can climb faster and higher and kill the F-18 from above.

Reason why F-14 was phased out was because of costly maintenance and at the end of the day F-18 provided nearly the same results at a better efficiency. Also military politics played a HUGE role in airforce awarding F-18 as the fighter of the future.

F-14 was never retired due to obsoleteness.

Also F-14 was made in large part to confront fast moving Soviet Migs. After collapse of Soviet Union, that niche died.

apart from the better rate of climb, f-14 radar range is twice the one of on the super hornet, it's missile range is longer than AMRAAMs, it's combat radius is 250 km more than SH and twice of hornet while it carries phoenix that is significantly heavier than AMRAAM.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Interesting situation for Pakistan. So we have one superpower in North (CHINA), another self claiming one in east (INDIA), and now a new one in south (IRAN). Only if our westerly neighbor (AFGHANISTAN) also claimed it, we will be surrounded by Super Powers in all directions and no foul nation would then dare look upon us in a negative manner.

ahahahaahhahaahha, nice one.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

yes. if you don't believe me ask someone in USAF or USNAF.

Dont know which USAF personal you have been speaking to but they dont operate F-14 or F-18s.

not better air force, you compared a carrier fleet with whole of our fleet.

that image depicts fakour, sejjil and aim-9. only sidewinder is old. however still many air forces use that version.and AIM-54 is better that AIM-120, it's just a little heavier than that.

Fakour or what ever is essentially Aim-54 with irrelevant long fins that looks like a scene from WWII experimental lab project gone bad. Every missile has a service life and 40 years is more then enough to expire, plus a modern jamming pod can easily foil AIm-54 from acquiring a target. These propaganda tools are only for domestic audience which iranians have fallen for and live in their own universe.

it's not slow moving, it's speed was close to any other fighter jet out their and it was flying at ~15 km altitude. BTW you were saying how effective US EW is and i stated a factual event.
lol it was in visual range??

MQ4 top speed is 350 MPH while a modern fighter jet can reach up to Mach 2! Go an watch the video first, it was within visual sight before the missile was fired. Even a vintage soviet IR missile can shoot it down at such close range. And oh, USN fighter jet pilots also use evasive maneuvers along with counter measures and do not just fly straight at slow speed.

F-14 can defeat F-18 in combat due to the fact that F-14 can climb faster and higher and kill the F-18 from above.

Reason why F-14 was phased out was because of costly maintenance and at the end of the day F-18 provided nearly the same results at a better efficiency. Also military politics played a HUGE role in airforce awarding F-18 as the fighter of the future.

F-14 was never retired due to obsoleteness.

Also F-14 was made in large part to confront fast moving Soviet Migs. After collapse of Soviet Union, that niche died.

Why should i even reply to such bullsh1t post and waste my time with this dork!

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/irans-f-14a-american-made-tomcats-have-missile-problem-84251

 

[Mithridates]

Dont know which USAF personal you have been speaking to but they dont operate F-14 or F-18s.

i meant any pilot.

Fakour or what ever is essentially Aim-54 with irrelevant long fins that looks like a scene from WWII experimental lab project gone bad. Every missile has a service life and 40 years is more then enough to expire, plus a modern jamming pod can easily foil AIm-54 from acquiring a target. These propaganda tools are only for domestic audience which iranians have fallen for and live in their own universe.

tell that to Saudi eagle crashed into PG waters in 2015.

MQ4 top speed is 350 MPH while a modern fighter jet can reach up to Mach 2!

cruising speed...

Go an watch the video first, it was within visual sight before the missile was fired.

lol your claim is so funny, you are saying both IRan and US are lying about that incident.
anyway, if you refer to the footage of US Poseidon plane that Iran released you probably don't know that the system recorded it has 80 km range.

Even a vintage soviet IR missile can shoot it down at such close range.

lol sure.

And oh, USN fighter jet pilots also use evasive maneuvers along with counter measures and do not just fly straight at slow speed.

then why they attached those counter measure instruments to a drone that only flies in a strait line??

at the end we have a saying says you can awaken some one that is sleeping but you can't awake some one that is pretending to sleep.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Official: Iran turns into superpower
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Moscow, Dec 28, IRNA – A Russian official said holding joint military drills with two major powers in the world indicates a new chapter in the history meaning that Iran has turned out to be a superpower.

Speaking to IRNA, Head of Center for Contemporary Iran Studies in Russia Recep Safarov said launching joint drills between Iran, Russia, and China in the Indian Ocean indicated Iran's important role as a superpower and as providing security in the region.

He noted that the objective of the recent drills with the cooperation of three major powers is unique.

The primary aims of this military coordination in the Indian Ocean and the Sea of Oman which are important waterways for international trade is regarded as the presence in these areas, Safarov noted.

The second objective is that these three states tend to create stability and security in these waterways, he added.

The third purpose of the military exercise was fighting international terrorism, he said, adding that Iran, Russia, and China are about to become a military coalition.

About a month ago, Iran's Navy Commander Rear-Admiral Hossein Khanzadi had declared that several other maneuvers will be carried out after this one which are all considered as exercise for the upcoming Indian Ocean Naval Symposium (IONS) conference in late February to boost convergence among naval forces in order to settle security in the north Indian Ocean with the help of all regional forces.

https://en.irna.ir/news/83611412/Official-Iran-turns-into-superpower

I.R. Iran is so cooool

Yeah Yeah it supposed to India but somehow God granted power to Iran Now U.N must granted Iran VETO power......

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

what superpower? for 40 years, your maudoodi followers have destroyed Afghanistan.

Abdullah Yusuf Azzam followed Maudoodi.

Maudoodi's books brought fitnah in Afghanistan that has led to the death of millions of Muslims.

Quite a stretch. Maulana Maududi has far more influence over Pakistan than he ever had over Afghanistan.

Abdullah Azzam and Arab Mujahideen did not have much affect on Afghanistan. After Soviet withdrawal, their influence was minimal.

only for the dajjali time that lasts for one month; because next, dajjal's time for the week begins, and the sole superpower will be Israel. Case closed.

I see that you are one of those Imran N Hosein followers. That man supports Kuffar nations and people like Russia and India against fellow Muslims like Turks and Pakistanis. He thinks Muslims owe an apology to Hindu RSS, and feels Hindu cannot be blamed for their mass lynching and mass rape.

Taleban in Afghanistan are not Maudoodi followers. They are not sick like ikhwanis. They all go to the Grave of Sayyiduna Jami radiAllahu anhu. They aint Muslim Brotherhood terrorists.

Connecting Maulana Maududi to Ikhwan is a bit of a stretch. Sayyid Qutb was a spiritual student of Maududi, but he was only a member of Ikhwan for a short time while in prison, he left at the end due to differences of mindset.

The MBs and co Islamist have caused big destruction in the Muslim ummah. They are educated muslims who are highly political but with childish, immature mindset.

At the moment they are dreaming of a war between pak and india. They want Pakistan to attack usa, then Europe, then india, then China, then Russia. They want muslim nations to attack Syria then saudia, then Egypt, oh yea am forgetting Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, Morocco, Algeria.

There are several fanctions of Muslim Brotherhood. The Egyptian one is the one which took over Egypt and was deposed by the coup, they are unacceptable to US-Israel.

Levantine Muslim Brotherhood, like the Syrian one, were kicked out of their countries and forced to find refuge in KSA where they adopted Wahhabism. Since then, they have been functioning as an arm of US-Israel, they are responsible for the bloodbath in Syria, as they usurped the revolution, and also have high positions in Arab regimes in the Levant like PA, etc.

In the US, Muslim Brotherhood is trying to further the causes of Gay rights among Muslims and usurp political power among Muslims (hence push heavily for voting,) and tarnishing the reputation of rival scholars like Nouman Ali Khan. They are represented by Omar Suleman, Linda Sarsour, ISNA, MAS, and CAIR. Jamat e Islami USA (ICNA) is also their ally.

with the help of super power(India+China+America+Afghanistan) we will capture Pakistan and give it to previously camel guy now Arabizer to Arabize you all lol.
i feel sorry to this thread, when Pakistanis start to talk about Taliban in the corners of thread, or the title is about of Iranian military might and some people jump in for trolling it's the time to close the thread.

Why shouldn't we talk about our ally?

I’m not here to defend USA, but it’s Ironic that Pakistan is calling out another country regarding Poverty conditions. You should probably fix your own country first where honor killings still happen routinely and your poor defacate in the woods.

Also why your fixing that problem, you should probably return the billions in aid you received from the US over the years as beggars.

Honour killings in Pakistan are known locally as karo-kari. Pakistan has the highest number of documented and estimated honour killings per capita of any country in the world; about one-fifth of the world's honour killings are performed in Pakistan. Wikipedia

In Pakistan, 24.3% of the population lives below the national poverty line in 2015
https://www.adb.org/countries/pakistan/poverty

But since 2002, the US has given Pakistan over $14 billion in aid to combat terrorism and insurgents in the region.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...akistan-aid-military-trump-pompeo-afghanistan


American that flies a Pakistan flag and talks bad about his own country? Yeah says it all.

Mods, this @TheImmortal seems adamant to keep Pakistanis from discussing topics on Iran.

Offtopic Posts serving to demean Pakistan with false narratives and falsely compare Pakistan to India.

@Dubious @waz @Horus

 

[El Sidd]

Mubarek !!

Pakistan should ask for much lower rates for natural gas from Iran since Iran is clearly now a superpower.

 

[Sineva]

Mubarek !!

Pakistan should ask for much lower rates for natural gas from Iran since Iran is clearly now a superpower.

Well if pakistan finally got off of its ar$e and hurried up and actually built its part of the ip pipeline then you could ask for lower rates and chances are that you`d actually get them......unfortunately tho it seems that pakistan just as with india requires us permission to do these things,altho it must be said that in the case of india the us does seem to be willing to be just a tad little bit more accommodating of indias interests.
Isnt vassalage great?