Iran to grant citizenship to families of Pakistani 'martyrs' fighting in Syria and Iraq

[Max]

do they even have self Respect and love for their own country ?

They are shameless slaves of highest orders.. but i can assure you that they are in few thousands among 200 million Pakistanis..

if anything you guys should deport these Traitors as soon as possible. because they can easily start civil war if Iran orders them. if they love Iran more than their own land, they should live in Iran, not Pakistan.

Thats why i said thanks to Iran in my first post...Iran is doing good job that she is providing citizenship to more Iranian then Iranian themselves kind, and i asked Saudis to follow suit, and the day they start civil war. wilayat e faqih with the blessing of Allah will not be able to see next day...

If we have to die we will make sure they too... with most pain.

Pakistan is no syria or yemen, Mullah surely are yemen and syria infront of Pakistan..

 

[Max]

and you got - Rating from your own countrymen for this.

i dont mind ratings unless he/she have reason to rate me.. according to him my post have no substance so maybe he was right.. but i see no substance in any post

after seeing this, i think people of Pakistan needs Unity first (without Islam) and feeling of Brotherhood and Pride in their own Race. not Development.

as i said they are very few. but even then if it comes to India or other threat then Iran.. they will be on Pakistan's side..
and Pakistani dont consider Iran as superior, they (shia) consider Iranian Mullahs holy after 1979.. so race have nothing to do with it.. its loyalty to waliyat e faqih (religious body) not Iran.. but Iran is using Wilayat e faqih to push their agenda..

 

[Syed Hussain]

Bro I have utmost respect for Shias of Pakistan and a deep rooted respect for Iran for standing up to the west. But what is happening in Syria and Iraq is a sectarian war in which no non-takfiri or non-wahabi, non-khariji muslim has or should have any part in.

Shias have suffered very much in Pakistan and one shia community that has suffered most is the Hazara community but emotions should be kept in check. Joining fighters in Syria or Iraq fighting against sunni factions is being part of the problem, not the solution. The better part to play for us as Pakistanis would be to placate Iran and Saudi and act as mediators between them. Shias can convince Iran and sunnis Saudi.

Lets note that in Allahs eyes no shia or sunni is superior to the other as is no muslim over another. The prophet said do not cut the necks of each other when I am gone and we are doing exactly that. I sympathize with the shias of Pakistan and the oppression shias have suffered but loyalty should not be to Iran or Saudi for people in Pakistan but to Pakistan. Hope you get my point. Lets build unity and not fight other peoples wars for them just because we belong to said sect.

Right but tell me that where is the element of this "unity and goodness" in this post? leave this and tell me that where is the credibility of this news? and if the supporters of this post can't provide it and which they can't because there is none then I will have to assume that it was a fabricated lie to fuel the sectarian hatred among muslims. And Pakistan is no less than any other country in this business, I know dear because I saw generations of people around me eaten by a "state sponsored" sectarian target & mass killing.
Sorry for being rude dear, I am not blaming you or the majority "ahl-esunnah", but the sensitivity of the matter requires me to response like that. It is unacceptable that after so long a persecution worldwide and now in recent decades in Pakistan as well, it is us that will be blamed for things others committed.
And the authentication of what I just said can be found in the fact that no one even bothered to check the credibility of the news? all have just started to put out their internal poison instead.

Today they want to reach martyrdom in Syria freely, tomorrow in Pakistan?

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I simply do not buy Iran's so called stand against the west, whatever.

Ayatollah Khomeini returns to Iran after 14 years exile on February 1, 1979. He is helped off the plane by one of the Air France pilots.

When Iran finds itself a ground in Pakistan pointing at so called 'sunni' terror groups such as Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, who kill any Pakistani already and their awful crimes, it will be too late for everything. These kind of news, and what they are doing in region, doesn't really seem friendly. This isn't about Shia's but Iran's dangerous game that irresponsibly puts Shia's in danger first and foremost. It is a dangerous game what Iran can not play alone, today with Russia in Syria (pay attention: west doesn't even bother with the conflict, the game works perfectly), tomorrow with India in Pakistan, you may never know... Serious measures should be taken.

Stop arming and financing ISIS in Syria and then lets have a nice chat.

??? Has the entire defence.pk admin lost its mind or is it just an individual Wahabi thug? Where is the source of this news?
This sectarian and "begherat" behavior needs to stop, every one except the extremist wahabi influenced groups know about what's being done to Shia's in Pakistan.
We are 20% of this country and with an edge of being its "founders" as well and we will not tolerate or let go of this bullshit.
Have you forgot when Shuja Pasha briefed parliament about the funding of 19 crore per year to the extremist madresas of south Punjab only and the country mentioned was Saudi Arabia and not Iran. Stop shitting about Kalbhosan, because he was doing everything under a "legal cover" just like Jundullah does against Iran from our borders.
Can you even remember how many times Iranian officials gave open warnings to Pakistan about attacks on Iranian border forces frm within Pakistan when close talks remained of no use. We will only remember our sectarian people whining when Iran started to pursue and target the attacker within our borders when left with no other choice. How many times can you tell of Pakistani border guards being killed or abducted in attacks from Iranian side?
If you would have any "gherat", which is highly unlikely, then you would not have forgot why every Afghan hates us, as we sent "our citizens" for killing and destruction in Afghanistan from past 40 years. And we are offering them much more than citizenship, and to those Afghans as well who kill their own people on our payroll.
There are places in Pakistan where people are fleeing abroad already because of "sectarian cleansing" level persecution...like the Hazara tribe in Balochistan.
We are Shia's, we are as much Pakistani as the self claimed "patriots" who do nothing but justify every shite of what we have done as a country, we have as much right on this land as you, and we will support the people on our side like Iran as you support the people on your side like Saudia or any Arab thug states.
Have you ever spitted anything when India romances with Saudia? no... because it's not an issue cuz everyone is free to trade with anyone he likes as Pakistan trades with one of the worst enemies of Islam and Muslims as we know but Iran never protested to that. Why is that only if India does trade with Iran or invest there then we start to lose our minds and begin to find every kind of conspiracy out of it.
And about the bullshit of gas pipeline, everyone knows that Pakistan is the defector and it defected over a usual cause of "American Pressure" and decided to go with an over costly and dangerous rout of Tapi gas pipeline. The dogs and donkeys on both side of the border know that Iran has completed the pipeline on its side and even offered several times to complete the pipeline on Pakistani side as well but we won't accept "may be because then we will be left with no cover to spit lies on defence.pk."
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And the authentication of what I just said can be found in the fact that no one even bothered to check the credibility of the news? all have just started to put out their internal poison instead.
Thank you defence.pk for providing us with such a nice post to put out our sectarian poison , you are doing a great job, keep it up

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/iran-to-...in-syria-and-iraq.429039/page-7#ixzz47a0Lm2T5

 

[bsruzm]

Stop arming and financing ISIS in Syria and then lets have a nice chat.

Guys, that's what I am talking about. Game works perfectly as ISIS in fact doesn't discriminate and doesn't represent any of us, our countries. I do not support ISIS but poor Syrian's. I do not fool Pakistani people to fight my bloody war and then grant those a citizenship as like challenging Pakistan's authority, that'd be disrespectful as your post is.

Shias are no where in danger. Allah swt is their guardian. it is now over 1400 years. Shia enmity took enemies to nowhere but dead end. Today the enemies of the Shias are only losers.

How dare Shia enemy talk against Shia sanctities. Get into your head, those who go against Shia will loose and cannot win. it is proven throughout history. Humpty dumpty cannot put together again.

Okay, though I am not about Shia's but those who exploit it. Shia's are our brother's, If you one day fight India, they wouldn't ask you your sect as I wouldn't but perhaps die fighting shoulder to shoulder with you. You're a Pakistani, and that's all I need to know. I'll say again, 'Iran' irresponsibly puts Shia's in danger first then everybody else.

here is the Turkish forum here. Ask them what they place first. I bet 99% will say Turkey. Ditto for the Iranians.

I place my country above all and everything and also keep it's people and values high but still those, who control terror groups, somehow find a way to threaten our unity.

 

[chauvunist]

Lol at ayatollah followers going all gaga after exposing the obvious truth of black deeds and Fitna of their masters and starting advocating for Iran instead of Pakistan(not surprisingly ) and on the top of that to justify their black deeds,bringing Arabs and this and that out of nowhere...

 

[Kambojaric]

Any Pakistani who unless officially authorized fights for a foreign entity whether it be Iran, Saudi or frickin Mars should have their nationality revoked.

 

[Erhabi]

Lol at ayatollah followers going all gaga after exposing the obvious truth of black deeds and Fitna of their masters and starting advocating for Iran instead of Pakistan(not surprisingly ) and on the top of that to justify their black deeds,bringing Arabs and this and that out of nowhere...

Lol exactly, The topic is clearly about Iran and how they are recruiting youths from other countries for their dirty war. I bet If it was Saudi Arabia doing the same for their Yemen war everybody would have gone bonkers. I have born n raised in Saudi but It only made me more loyal and patriotic to Pakistan In pro Irani zombies case Iran is more important to them thn Pakistan. They blame Pakistani leadership for the blunders of Irani government but wont bring the same argument in case of Saudis.

 

[B@KH]

Lol at ayatollah followers going all gaga after exposing the obvious truth of black deeds and Fitna of their masters and starting advocating for Iran instead of Pakistan(not surprisingly ) and on the top of that to justify their black deeds,bringing Arabs and this and that out of nowhere...

Lol. last time wasn;t you who suggested shias to go to Iran? .
also wasn;t you replied to one turk flag that Shias can only go to a certain level in Pakistan and not above that.

when i said Iran will come here. you reply was : never think of that.

Shias in Pakistan love Islamic Revolution. there is no denial in it. None among them respect the wahabi monarchy.
Many sunnis too are with Shias rather than wahabis.

so what is the problem if shia go to Iran.

It's more like 10% to 13%. Jinnah never practiced Shia'ism, neither talked nor cared about it. Rest everything you stated sound like emotional outburst loaded with fallacies.
Track 'em and charge them under Anti-Terror laws, just like it is being done in US and Europe.

shia population in Pakistan has already crossed 40 million during past years. so certainly they are not 10% but far more.

 

[chauvunist]

Lol exactly, The topic is clearly about Iran and how they are recruiting youths from other countries for their dirty war. I bet If it was Saudi Arabia doing the same for their Yemen war everybody would have gone bonkers. I have born n raised in Saudi but It only made me more loyal and patriotic to Pakistan In pro Irani zombies case Iran is more important to them thn Pakistan. They blame Pakistani leadership for the blunders of Irani government but wont bring the same argument in case of Saudis.

Exactly..I come across such people on daily basis and believe me they will sell Pakistan anytime of the day for their holy leader..You won't find others doing the same apart from them..

Lol. last time wasn;t you who suggested shias to go to Iran? .
also wasn;t you replied to one turk flag that Shias can only go to a certain level in Pakistan and not above that.

when i said Iran will come here. you reply was : never think of that.

Shias in Pakistan love Islamic Revolution. there is no denial in it. None among them respect the wahabi monarchy.
Many sunnis too are with Shias rather than wahabis.

so what is the problem if shia go to Iran.



shia population in Pakistan has already crossed 40 million during past years. so certainly they are not 10% but far more.

You are gravingly mistaking my identity with someone else..I am not ashamed of identity and my flag neither my loyalty to my country is lying to someone else unlike you..

 

[salarsikander]

Lol. last time wasn;t you who suggested shias to go to Iran? .
also wasn;t you replied to one turk flag that Shias can only go to a certain level in Pakistan and not above that.

when i said Iran will come here. you reply was : never think of that.

Shias in Pakistan love Islamic Revolution. there is no denial in it. None among them respect the wahabi monarchy.
Many sunnis too are with Shias rather than wahabis.

so what is the problem if shia go to Iran.



shia population in Pakistan has already crossed 40 million during past years. so certainly they are not 10% but far more.

Hi,

Its a win win situation you and your sdlave lots can go to their masters while US PAKISTANIS can stay at peace. \

You should immediately apply for citizenship, since sure more Irani than Irani themselves

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You should be WISE enough to differentiate who is fighting for ISLAM & who is fighting for certain SECT

I am wise enough to know that it matter's nought what I differantiate as Islam. What matter's what they they think is Islam. Get mixed group of hundred Pakistani's and I dare, repeat I dare you first to tell them that you alone have the power to decide what Islam is and then to to force what you think as Islam down theirr throats.

I can guarantee you that some will disagree with your brand and they will be ready to fight you if you try to enforce your version on them. You of course will have choice either to declare them outside pale of Islam and then ready for fight.

Without even going into depth we know between 30-40 million Pakistani's are Shia. So if your going to insist on defining your primary identity around religion than you have to accept that can going to crearte Shia Muslim (Shia) Pakistan and Sunni (Muslim) Pakistan. Even retard can see where this will take you. A divided country. You cannot blame one group of Muslim Pakistan siding with Saudia Arabia because they are merely acting on their faith. Similarly you have to accept the other group of Muslim Pakistan to put their faith first and follow Iran.

This is as simple logic as 1 plus 2 is 3. If I say I am Muslim first then I will always follow what I consider as my faith first. Since there are dozens of schools of though in Islam it means a divided polity at war with itself.

And if Pakistani's followed on @DESERT FIGHTER signature Pakistan would be strong country.

 

[Tipu7]

I am wise enough to know that it matter's nought what I differantiate as Islam. What matter's what they they think is Islam. And if I said anything differant they think is Islam. Get mixed group of hundred Pakistani's and I dare, repeat I dare you first to tell them that you alone have the power to decide what Islam is and then to to force what you think as Islam down theirr throats.

I can guarantee you that some will disagree with your brand and they will be ready to fight you if you try to enforce your version on them. You of course will have choice either to declare them outside pale of Islam and then ready for fight.

Without even going into depth we know between 30-40 million Pakistani's are Shia. So if your going to insist on defining your primary identity around religion than you have to accept that can going to crearte Shia Muslim (Shia) Pakistan and Sunni (Muslim) Pakistan. Even retard can see where this will take you. A divided country. You cannot blame one group of Muslim Pakistan siding with Saudia Arabia because they are merely acting on their faith. Similarly you have to accept the other group of Muslim Pakistan to put their faith first and follow Iran.

This is as simple logic as 1 plus 2 is 3. If I say I am Muslim first then I will always follow what I consider as my faith first. Since there are dozens of schools of though in Islam it means a divided polity at war with itself.

There was no this ''Shia-Sunni'' crap few decades ago. It all started after a certain ''Islamic'' revolution which powered by Mullah of one sect, as counter balance Mullah of other sect also gained power resulting in sectarian clash in the name of Islam what we see now.
And in 70s- 80s our policies were so strong that we were literally creating threats for Global power.
Many people were also saying ''aain baain shaain'' at that time too, but they were proven wrong.
It can happen again if Proper leadership return back again.

Pakistan is the ideological state, only guardian of specific ideology. While all rest ''Muslim'' nations are based upon cast, color or creed.

Term ''Pakistani'' is a pure Ideological term. But if some one don't understand that then it can't be helped.
We are the BOSS here, and we have ''THAKE DARI' of ''Ummah'' even if 'Ummah' don't exist.

This is as simple logic as 1 plus 2 is 3. If I say I am Muslim first then I will always follow what I consider as my faith first. Since there are dozens of schools of though in Islam it means a divided polity at war with itself.

And if Pakistani's followed on @DESERT FIGHTER signature Pakistan would be strong country.

When Pakistan managed to get rid of those low lives who are Pakistani but are more loyal towards certain countries, then most of issues will resolve.
Considering the fact that how much both Iran and KSA spend in ''welfare activities'' in Pakistan it looks like a difficult task, but its still achievable............

 

[Max]

I know, it's not about being Superior or Inferior it's about having Pride in your own race, read post of our friend @bsruzm

again i am telling you last time that race have nothing to do with this.. its about religious affiliation with Wilayat e faqih (same as christian (pope and cardinal culture) Supreme leader of Iran is pope of extremist shia's( which you have more then us).. and their are many influential shia cleric which serve as cardinals.. which is new invention that came after Iranian revolution in 1979.

Pakistan is not ethnic state... our ideology is against ethnic pride..Nationalist pride have much more value as compared to this sectarian shit.,. as i said their are no more then few thousand Mullah lovers, while overwhelming majority are Nationalists ready to die for Pakistan even against Muslims, let alone any non Muslim enemy...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

''Shia-Sunni'' crap few decades ago

Yes. Because few decades ago people like you were rare. Most people did not go around wearing religion on their sleeve. That is why everybody lived in relative peace, Even the Ahmedi's were allowed to breath. You know Pakistan had Ahmedi Zafarullah Khan as foreign minister.Ever since things have been sliding down. Regimes in neighboring countries change all the time. Nothing new there. The question you need to ask is why Pakistan has got constipated because of change next door? Well the answer is simple. When you place religion as the primary and sole definition don't be surprised if your citizens start getting infected by external religious waves. It is recipe for disaster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Zafarullah_Khan

Can you imagine that today? As views like yours gained traction people began to articulate on religion. Well here we are today in 2016. And when you say ideaological state do you even know what that means precisely? And whose ideaological state? Shia, the Sunni and whose sub sect? Wahabi, Bareilvy, Deobandi? There are so many schisms in Muslim thinking that by the time the day is over everybody is rooting after other's head.

 

[Djinn]

Must say Iran gotta stop provoking Shia's in neighboring states to fight for it's political interests. They fought for a decade with Iraq over these shenanigans and looks like they didn't learn anything. Pakistan has been nothing but friendly to Iran and this is how Iran responds: Let Indians spread terrorism in Pakistan via Iran and also compel Pakistani citizens to engage in it's unholy crusades. That is so UNCOOL of Iran.