Iran Starts 60% Uranium Enrichment

[Arian]

Salaam

Honest question.

Why is it that the Iranian nuclear program is hit every now and then but the Pakistani one doesn't seem to have the same problem?

Are threats to Pakistani nuclear program not reported or do the Iranians use security protocols that make them

Salam

Because first and foremost, Pakistan is not a signatory to the NPT and hence, it is not under 24/7 surveillance and unannounced inspections by the IAEA. Also, even though the people of Pakistan hate Israel with a passion, the body of the Pakistani system has always been acting indifferently towards Israel and just until recently, Pakistan was a US ally with strong ties with the Saudi regime (another US ally).

 

[Ich]

Some say that the attack on the electricity of Natanz was a false flag to give Iran an argument to replace all IR1 and to enrich higher. Well, what should i say. The world is really crazy.

 

[yavar]

Salaam

Honest question.

Why is it that the Iranian nuclear program is hit every now and then but the Pakistani one doesn't seem to have the same problem?

because U.S need Pakistan at this moment time for exiting Afghanistan.. ( and did back in 1980 when Pakistan was laying down its nuclear program, U.S news Pakistan for defeating Soviet Union) and willing to be bought out

at time cobra eyes General zia ul haq

Pakistan don't possess strategic threat to U.S ,

Pakistan willing to work with U.S and do bidding and curry out there crime

Pakistan is unimportant country when it comes to goloble energey or ecomomic

Pakistan nuclear program is depending from outside and can be disrupted, ( mean no Uranium mining or covesion or Yellweo cake, Uranium Hexafluoride, ex....++++ )

Pakistan doesn't have full fuel cycle and use raw Uranium for its khushab and cannot process and conversion and fuel rod,
( even for it newly built nuclear Power reactor by China has contract to China for supply of fuel for life time of reactor ( zirconium fuel rod table with enriched fuel pellets in PWR fuel assembly )

Pakistan nuclear program and it capacity well known and the outcome is calculable
Pakistan run only one nuclear program and doesn't have covert program


Pakistan does not have industrial size enrichment facilities for output of 14000 or 190,000 SWU enrichment or 300,000 SWU

Pakistan Plants heavily depend on our side and can be disrupted ( like Pakistan Plants heavily depend on our side and can be disrupted ( like Multan Heavy Water Production Facility ex...+++)

Pakistan is not invested heavily in R&D and trying to develop new ways ........... +..........+........... which i can not say in the forum unilke IRIran

ex ++++................



on all above and even more IRIran does it on it own

 

[yavar]

Some say that the attack on the electricity of Natanz was a false flag

none sense

 

[313ghazi]

You'll never be safe until you have the bomb. Make it and test it - anything short will always invite Israeli backed aggression.

 

[yavar]

Because first and foremost, Pakistan is not a signatory to the NPT and hence, it is not under 24/7 surveillance

NPT does not mean 24/7 surveillance
thats adicional protocol

 

[Arian]

NPT does not mean 24/7 surveillance
that that adicional protocol

The Additional Protocol in short allows unannounced inspections to places where the agency believes suspicious activities are taking place, as well as interviews with people who the agency suspects of being involved in clandestine activities. Natanz has been under 24/7 surveillance by the IAEA since 2004. Refer to Ahmadinejad's interviews from 2005 or later. There are tens or even hundreds of cameras installed in every corner of Natanz (as well as other nuclear facilities of Iran) that record every activity for the IAEA.

 

[yavar]

Natanz has been under 24/7 surveillance by

NO the sealed and IAEA cameras were taken off from Natanz

 

[Arian]

NO the sealed and IAEA cameras were taken off from Natanz

When? Do you mean recently? Because if you're talking about the recent law by the parliament, the cameras are still there, they're still recording every activity of ours without exception. The only difference is that this time, per our agreement with the IAEA, we will keep the recorded videos for 3 months and if sanctions are removed by then, we will hand them over to the IAEA. If not, we will destroy them.

 

[yavar]

When?

Iran tells IAEA to remove cameras - Feb 6, 2006 - CNN.com
Iran Gives IAEA Deadline To Remove Cameras, Seals - WSJ

Do you mean recently?

No before JCPOA ,
when you under NPT there is NO inspection with cameras and Inspection need to be requested and booked

you're talking about the recent law by the parliament,

I am talking about end of President Khatami which parliament voted to withdraw from Additional Protocol and all seales and cameras where removed

 

[Arian]

Iran tells IAEA to remove cameras - Feb 6, 2006 - CNN.com
Iran Gives IAEA Deadline To Remove Cameras, Seals - WSJ

No before JCPOA ,
when you under NPT there is inspection with cameras and Inspection need to be requested and booked

But the cameras were still there. Ahmadinejad talked about it a 100 times in interviews and the IAEA reports confirm that. Here's one from 2009, for example:

 

[yavar]

we will keep the recorded videos for 3 months and if sanctions are removed by then, we will hand them over to the IAEA. If not, we will destroy them.

that lie by Salehi, and our security services know it, these IAEA cameras are can send data and work with satellite communication

 

[yavar]

t. Here's one from 2009, for example:

NO wrong

this is from 2005, but CNN full out small section and reuploded it 2009 after election for propaganda purposes

and if you watch full interview the CNN journalist asking Ahmadinejad why do removing the cameras and seals

 

[Arian]

NO wrong

this is from 2005

and if you watch full interview the CNN journalist asking Ahmadinejad why do removing the cameras and seals

My bad, I was misled by the upload date. Here's another article from 2007:

All underground cameras installed at Natanz plant
Top Iranian nuclear official: UN inspectors set up cameras in facility where 3,000 new centrifuges will be installed.

All underground cameras installed at Natanz plant

Top Iranian nuclear official: UN inspectors set up cameras in facility where 3,000 new centrifuges will be installed.

www.jpost.com

Here is another one from Tehran Times:
TEHRAN (IRNA) -- An informed source said here Friday that International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors have installed cameras aimed at controlling activities at Iran's Natanz Nuclear Complex. The informed official who talked with IRNA's Political Desk reporter on condition of anonymity, reiterated, "The installment of those cameras has been in accordance with Tehran's commitments towards IAEA regrading the UN nuclear watchdog's inspection and control responsibilities."

IAEA inspectors install cameras at Natanz Nuclear Complex

www.tehrantimes.com

 

[yavar]

My bad, I was misled by the upload date. Here's another article from 2007:

All underground cameras installed at Natanz plant
Top Iranian nuclear official: UN inspectors set up cameras in facility where 3,000 new centrifuges will be installed.

All underground cameras installed at Natanz plant

Top Iranian nuclear official: UN inspectors set up cameras in facility where 3,000 new centrifuges will be installed.

www.jpost.com

Here is another one from Tehran Times:
TEHRAN (IRNA) -- An informed source said here Friday that International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors have installed cameras aimed at controlling activities at Iran's Natanz Nuclear Complex. The informed official who talked with IRNA's Political Desk reporter on condition of anonymity, reiterated, "The installment of those cameras has been in accordance with Tehran's commitments towards IAEA regrading the UN nuclear watchdog's inspection and control responsibilities."

IAEA inspectors install cameras at Natanz Nuclear Complex

www.tehrantimes.com

Fake news by Israeli propaganda alfit

Reuter
2007
Iran has to date refused to let the IAEA install video cameras

Iran making nuclear fuel in underground plant: IAEA

Iran has begun making nuclear fuel in its underground uranium enrichment plant, the international atomic watchdog said on Wednesday, in a move by Tehran that raises the stakes in its showdown with world powers.

www.reuters.com

after 2009 election in 2012-13 which there was secret negotiation was stated in Oman with Americans and as voluntary and trust building measure allowed IAEA to come