Iran - officially a state with nuclear capability

[longbrained]

point taken.




Thats quite a dangerous misperception if in fact israel is a nuclear power wouldn't you say? Actually it's quite dangerous for stability in the countries surrounding Israel and Israel itself if that turns out to be true. Assuming Amhadinejad was never serious when he proclaimed his desire to wipe Israel from the map ( nuclear attack on Israel would invit nuclear retaliation by the US, npt goes out the window worldwide) terrorist groups such as Hamas would be greatly emboldened and neighboring countries vehemently anti-Israel might be tempted to go to war.

If they've been a nuclear power then it must have been underground testing.

No such things will happen. It is just media hype that Hamas will become emboldened. The fact is if groups like Hamas were emboldened by such tactics then Soviet propped Afghan government would have never fallen and Iran's Shah was still in power since both were being backed by nuclear powers. There are many other examples. Groups like Hamas get emboldened on ideological grounds. Whey they see that Fatah is impotent and can not deliver and when they see Abbas the Fatah leader a buddy of US is slapped in face just because Palestinians have got an unimportant seat in UNICEF, Hamas gets emboldened. When Palestinias see their thousands come home from Israeli prisons under a Hamas-Israeli deal, they get emboldened. When Israel is killing kids in Palestine, Hamas gets emboldened. That is how it works.

 

[fd24]

As I said in the opening of the thread, this is how US will behave. Now they are in the last stage, telling Iranians that they do not deserve to have nukes because Kurds will get their hands on it just like they tell Pakistan that Taliban will take over nukes.

Anyways,

If US is so worried, then they should:

1- Stop their unconditional support for Israel and support Palestinians in the next few decades for a change, start by delivering them F-35 and help them build a navy all paid by US tax dollars just like US has done for Israel in the past 65 years.

2- Immediately stop threatening Iranian interests so that Iranians feel safe from your invasion and rapist attitudes and maybe and just maybe they would stop building bombs to protect themselves from American psychopathic military-industrial complex

3- American president should immediately fly to Tehran and fall to feet of Ahmadinejad apologizing for the operation Ajax and US support for Saddam's chemical weapons against Iranians and Iran Air flight 655.

Then maybe peace can prevail. Otherwise Iran has much right to defend itself as has America. So Iran should test its weapons.

Longbrained

Why do you think the drums are banging so loudly. The (lying Israelis) are shi*ing themselves. They are attempting to get the USA to threaten Iran with this and that, making them look daft on the international scene, threatening with more sanctions, saying they are mad etc. Even Obama today when caught out on microphone was showing his distaste in having to talk to Netanyahu everyday.
Its okay for them to have nukes however Iran having nukes means its dangerous for the world? What planet are they from?
BTW love the thought of Obama falling at Ahmadinejads feet!! lollz

 

[Secur]

You're rather foul mouthed and small brained aren't you?

If you want to apply the gentlemen's statements to the thread, A nuclear Iran means a nuclear arms race in the region from countries that are neither friendly to or trustful of Iran.That means an increased chance for radical elements of any of these countries to get their hands on nuclear material. for whatever ends they might desire, this includes the kurds, the palestinian radicals, Israeli radicals, what have you.

Being foul mouthed and small brained is an inherited quality of zionists So its not possible that longbrained may have acquired it by any chance ...

So to speak , what exactly does a nuclear Israel means for the region ? Peace and Stability ? OR open violations of the UN resolutions supported by your terrorist country the US of A ? ... The arms race already started when Israel started developing nukes illegally ... Get it out of your mind that only US allies and Zionist have a right to self defense ... If Israeli nukes aren't a problem , then even Iranian nukes are more than fine ... Both have equal probability of falling into the hand of radicals ...

 

[RockyX]

KSA will be more worried than Israel. BTW, KSA, Turkey, Bahrain are U.S. allies too.

 

[longbrained]

why do u have an impression that US is the enemy of the whole muslim world and supports only Israel... if this was the case then Saudi Arabia would not be such an ally of US......

US is not the enemy of the muslims. The US foreign policy is the enemy of Muslims. And you better ask Saudi members here how much they think US is their ally since anything I say might be misunderstood both by you and Saudis.

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tell me that was a joke....cmon..you cant be serious...!!

I am not. Why you Indians are acting so childish today. First the other Indian user Shadow_Hunter and then now you. Grow up. Go and read Shadow_Hunter posts to see how childish it is.

 

[GHOST RIDER]

Our friend PERSIAN GOD KING(sadly is banned)
had this to say

Iran has nukes, either they bought them from north kora, or got the ones that went missing from soviets, also we do have our own uranium ores, who knows who many nukes we have built so far

 

[longbrained]

Longbrained

Why do you think the drums are banging so loudly. The (lying Israelis) are shi*ing themselves. They are attempting to get the USA to threaten Iran with this and that, making them look daft on the international scene, threatening with more sanctions, saying they are mad etc. Even Obama today when caught out on microphone was showing his distaste in having to talk to Netanyahu everyday.
Its okay for them to have nukes however Iran having nukes means its dangerous for the world? What planet are they from?
BTW love the thought of Obama falling at Ahmadinejads feet!! lollz

Dear, superkaif, the truth is they have come to the end of the line. Americans and Europeans have already accepted Iran as a nuclear power and just want to save their faces some how. Americans are leaving Iraq in defeat and they need to come to terms with Iran some how. Those microphones were not left turned on by "accident". If you ask them it was very intentional. They wanted to send a message to Israel, to shut up. They have had enough of Israel and it lies and crocodile tears. They know that a nuclear armed Iran will actually be a stabilizing factor in middle east against unchecked Israelis. Iranians are actually very quite people. The last time they had gone on an invasion was almost 300 years ago in battle of Karnal. So atomic weapons in their hand is the least real worry of US and EU. Specially that Israel even does not listen to US when told to stop making settlements and expanding ever more. The real Americans have not yet forgotten what really happened on 9/11 and when Israeli jets attacked defenseless US navy ship or when Zionist banks looted the savings of a generation of Americans running ponzy schemes in the past 10 years.

 

[longbrained]

Our friend PERSIAN GOD KING(sadly is banned)
had this to say

Thanks very much Ghost Rider. We heard you "HEAVEN". God.

Mods, please let PERSIAN GOD KING in. Let him just have some fun here. For God's sake he is just a kid, barely 18 years old.

Could some reader here with political connection on PDF notify the mods and let this kid in. Will be appreciated. He is dying out there in the cold. Some one help him.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

why do u have an impression that US is the enemy of the whole muslim world and supports only Israel... if this was the case then Saudi Arabia would not be such an ally of US......

US is only friend with those who bend over to them, an enemy to those who stand in US way. Saudis shouldnt forget Husein was also US friend at one time, so was Gaddafi, remember what happened to them?

 

[President Camacho]

If Iran ever conducts a nuke test, or confirms nuke capability, entire world economy will come crashing down, and the biggest losers will be China and India.

 

[Drawn_Sword_of_God]

If Iran ever conducts a nuke test, or confirms nuke capability, entire world economy will come crashing down, and the biggest losers will be China and India.

what u mean?

 

[President Camacho]

what u mean?

See this?

Iran worries spark fears of $200-a-barrel oil

AhmedeNijad knows what I mean -

Iranian President Rejects U.S. Allegations on Nuclear Weapons

When last to last year the crude went up $125, China's growth rate came down by 20%. India's growth rate came down by 15%.

China's super growth rate makes it highly vulnerable to a crash lead by such external, artificial factors. China and India are the countries that are relied on to keep the world economy running in positive figures somehow. Neither of these countries has any sort of monopoly on oil, which is the fuel for growth, unlike the US or Russia or OPEC.

When oil goes up, these two economies will come down, creating a domino effect and taking everyone down with them. Especially China because of its size.

 

[longbrained]

See this?

Iran worries spark fears of $200-a-barrel oil

AhmedeNijad knows what I mean -

Iranian President Rejects U.S. Allegations on Nuclear Weapons

When last to last year the crude went up $125, China's growth rate came down by 20%. India's growth rate came down by 15%.

China's super growth rate makes it highly vulnerable to a crash lead by such external, artificial factors. China and India are the countries that are relied on to keep the world economy running in positive figures somehow. Neither of these countries has any sort of monopoly on oil, which is the fuel for growth, unlike the US or Russia or OPEC.

When oil goes up, these two economies will come down, creating a domino effect and taking everyone down with them. Especially China because of its size.

But it would not happen if China already has some agreement with Iran in this regard, would it? Do you think there might be a China-Iran block forming here to contain US monopoly on oil? Specifically petrodollar? Could we see formation of Petro-Yuan?

 

[President Camacho]

But it would not happen if China already has some agreement with Iran in this regard, would it? Do you think there might be a China-Iran block forming here to contain US monopoly on oil?

Well... things are much much more complex than that. If China had the capacity to break the US/OPEC monopoly, it would have already vetoed Libya invasion.

Just know one important thing - This world is not run by so called patriotic governments, it is run by businessmen.

 

[Abii]

If Iran ever conducts a nuke test, or confirms nuke capability, entire world economy will come crashing down, and the biggest losers will be China and India.

boofuckinghoo

China and India will continue to grow, so will the rest of Asia
We are past the point of no return. Europe and NA will simply die faster and China will have slower growth for a bit. boohoooo