How Pakistan is preparing a nuclear umbrella to foster terrorism against India

[Signalian]

Really?
India started 1965?

Jingoistic words sound OK, from normal members, but not from a rank holder like you.
Actually, India did that in 1971, isn’t it? We did lose soldiers but achieved the aim.

Infact, it is experts like you who write an end of India everyday. We have issues that can divide us much more than a fairly homogeneous country like Paksiatn. You couldn’t hold on to 50% of your territory because of highly misplaced concepts of superiority based on height and colour of skin. The existing Paksiatn is also, in self-created trouble on the western borders due to similar issues.

Establishment has succeeded in fooling the normal populace for far too long. They see it now and this narrative of Indian bogey isn’t going to sell for too long.

You and the writer of the article of, Maj Gen Singh, are sharing the same pain.

Its a colossal failure of Indian Army that Pakistan Army exists today, even when Indian Army "won" all the wars. And now Maj General Singh had to write an article on Pakistan Army. Becharay General Sahab.

 

[CIA Mole]

ukraine was promised nuclear umbrella and general protection after giving up its nukes

now look at it

 

[VkdIndian]

You and the writer of the article of, Maj Gen Singh, are sharing the same pain.

We have moved on in life. People do have their opinions and that can include analysing all the aspects of partition. It was a major event in this part of the world in the previous century.

An Army officer writing an article on external security angle rattles people? Why? Title of the article is a little too catchy and could have been better worded. I don’t think that nuclear weapons with Paksiatn can be called a Nuclear terrorism. It is for it’s external security and is logical considering Indian possession of the same.

Its a colossal failure of Indian Army that Pakistan Army exists today, even when Indian Army "won" all the wars.

No. It’s not the job of Indian Army to to decide the existence of any neighbouring country. That is the forte of PA that thinks that it can decide the existence of IA and Afghanistan. That’s how you have alienated Afghnas so much that they hate you.

IA is supposed to do defence of the nation and it is doing it well. If existence of PA is it’s failure then we are happy with it.

On the contrary the PA has been a huge failure from every possible angle.
- They have subverted the normal rule of governance by imposing themselves a number of times.
- They meddle in and control internal politics.
- They run businesses and are biggest business house in your country
- They meddle in foreign policy and the economic policy
- They are infact the main reason for the mess you are in.
If you think that means success, then go ahead and please keep succeeding.

Paksiatn does occupy a special place in Indian psyche. It has been hyped up by the politicians because it gets good votes. PoliticIans are little dirty when they want votes.

But, practically, Paksiatn can play minuscule role and has negligible impact other than internal security situation here. There is no direct business between both the countries. There is hardly any cultural or people to people exchange either. India mainly doesn’t want Paksiatn to meddle in our internal security situation in Kashmir by giving any material support. Moral support is fine. Want to give speeches in UN and other countries against India then go ahead. But nothing more.

Have you ever seen Indian PM utter your nations name? But, how many times IK used to do it? Modi ignored him and never got provoked. That shows pretty much, who is dominating whose psyche.

Coming to Bollywood movies on Paksiatn. During the Cold War era, every second movie in Hollywood used to be about USSR. They needed a villain and USSR fitted the bill perfectly. It made good narrative and good money too. Same is the case here. So, yes we do have Paksiatn provide us good masala for our movies. Bollywood is a pure business venture, that’s it.
Personally I don’t like those and haven’t seen even one of them.

 

[TopGun786]

Source? What was the context? Moreover, how does it make a difference to current or future possibility of a conflict. Unless you are also Laal topi type, who thinks that one Muslim is better than 10 Hindus.

It was the first time but not the last one. Pakistan has played nuclear bogey long enough. If Pakistan gives any material support to any terrorists then it will happen again.

If you are that type who is feeling bad at Kutch and Hyd not able to join Pakistan then reasoning may not work with you. Any way, what would you have done if they had joined you? Mistreat them like you treated the East Pakistanis?

Kashmir under Indian control isn’t going anywhere. Some people in Pakistan have understood this and accepted the reality. Others like you haven’t yet. Don’t worry. You will also come around.

Indian military has never killed a sitting PM or started a war with the PM in complete dark. They give bombastic statements when asked by the government to raise the heckles. But they always remain under the control of the government.

PA on the contrary is a loose cannon and would never ever settle for peace with India. That would make them loose all the lucrative businesses they are running. India wanted peace with Lahore bus service Inspite of the past bad blood.

But Musharraf started Kargil to prevent any possibility of that. And India is bad?

Okkk. We are bad ***. I accept it.

Thanks for accepting that you have mouth piles problem.

 

[El Sidd]

Dream on and die dreaming.

The way we see it. The onus is on Indians to behave themselves and get rewarded for it by not getting nuked.

 

[my2cents]

The Indians are wetting their pants. Lt. General Khalid Kidwai is part of the old generation of Pakistanis who knows how to rattle the Indians.

 

[hari sud]

The way we see it. The onus is on Indians to behave themselves and get rewarded for it by not getting nuked.

‘You missed one point…….. that is, get nuked in retaliation and go back to Stone Age.

 

[JX-1]

Source? What was the context? Moreover, how does it make a difference to current or future possibility of a conflict. Unless you are also Laal topi type, who thinks that one Muslim is better than 10 Hindus.

It was the first time but not the last one. Pakistan has played nuclear bogey long enough. If Pakistan gives any material support to any terrorists then it will happen again.

And India has played the terrorist bogey long enough.

Unless you're one of those saffron gomutra guzzling imbeciles who believes 3 trees = 300 terrorists.

By the way, the international community was not impressed by that failed little stunt of yours in 2019.

If you are that type who is feeling bad at Kutch and Hyd not able to join Pakistan then reasoning may not work with you. Any way, what would you have done if they had joined you? Mistreat them like you treated the East Pakistanis?

Kashmir under Indian control isn’t going anywhere. Some people in Pakistan have understood this and accepted the reality. Others like you haven’t yet. Don’t worry. You will also come around.

Don't put words in my mouth - I don't mind if the LoC is the border.

Kashmir under Pakistani control isn't going anywhere either - but Indians and their top brass are yet to accept this fact.

Indian military has never killed a sitting PM

The Sikhs who killed Indira Gandhi were not part of the Indian armed forces?

or started a war with the PM in complete dark. They give bombastic statements when asked by the government to raise the heckles. But they always remain under the control of the government.

Rogue hindu nationalist military personnel defied the ROE and CoC, powered up, armed, prepared, aimed, and fired a nuclear capable, supersonic missile into Pakistan not too long ago.

Tell me, have rogue Pakistani officers ever launched a Shaheen or nuclear missile inside India?

PA on the contrary is a loose cannon and would never ever settle for peace with India. That would make them loose all the lucrative businesses they are running.

Make up your mind - either they are to busy doing business to fight, or they are hell bent on ghazwa e hind?

India wanted peace with Lahore bus service Inspite of the past bad blood.

But Musharraf started Kargil to prevent any possibility of that. And India is bad?

Kargil, which you are obsessively trying to deflect to, is the only war Pakistan has initiated, and that too, was in retaliation for India's annexation of Siachen, in violation of the Simla agreement which states no side should unilaterally seek to forcibly alter the LoC.

Every other conflict and the ongoing arms race has been initiated by India.

I find it amusing how Indian nationalists are experts at cherrypicking. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself.

Okkk. We are bad ***. I accept it.

Not just badass, just shameless hypocrites.

 

[El Sidd]

‘You missed one point…….. that is, get nuked in retaliation and go back to Stone Age.

lol

 

[VkdIndian]

By the way, the international community was not impressed by that failed little stunt of yours in 2019.

You think these operations are done to impress someone? Your establishment must be doing it. Mature nations don’t.

Make up your mind

Nope. Your nation has to make up it’s mind about PA. We are happy with them doing business. May they flourish and produce high quality cement , cornflakes, movies, dramas and many other stuff.

Kargil, which you are obsessively trying to deflect to, is the only war Pakistan has initiated,

When there was probably the only chance to find peace between both and Establishment scuttled it. Great organisation it is.

The Sikhs who killed Indira Gandhi were not part of the Indian armed forces?

Yes they were. But it was a rogue soldier, not the full system like your establishment that planned and executed your PM. You are comparing both? How many times they have deposed PMs? You must be staying in one of the DHAs enjoying the fruits of those subversions, then only someone can compare these two murders.

gomutra guzzling

Quality or lack of it, in an FM, comes out within one disagreement in the form of dung, mutra etc etc. You have displayed your’s within one.

And India has played the terrorist bogey long enough.

It’s not a bogey. It is something that entire world has accepted. That’s how you graced the grey list of FATF. IK accepted in his interview that there were thousands of Individuals trained which he is trying to dismantle. Musharraf, Benazir and Zia have also accepted them in their interviews. I am sure your Googling skills wouldn’t find them conveniently, since it wouldn’t suit your La la land story here.

Rogue hindu nationalist military personnel defied the ROE and CoC, powered up, armed, prepared, aimed, and fired a nuclear capable, supersonic missile into Pakistan not too long ago.

You did the inquiry? Pretty heavy words in one sentence. Please sell them in Paksiatn. No one else is ready to buy them.

Tell me, have rogue Pakistani officers ever launched a Shaheen or nuclear missile inside India?

Oh, come on. They launched a full fledged war in 1965 and 1999. Your PM was in dark and had to run to White House to save the skin. Please don’t compare a rogue PA to a disciplined IA. IA doesn’t go around toppling democratic governments, controlling foreign policies, economic policies, farming etc etc.

It seems that you have had a close association with PA and you have benefitted from their corrupt activities the way you are defending them. Any pragmatic person would have accepted their multitude of failures including breakup of your nation in 1971.

This thread is about nuclear aspects. Please don’t derail it now.