Iran - officially a state with nuclear capability

[krash]

Will you scream "congratulations Saudi Arabians" too when we will eventually do the same thing long brained??

You know he and many others will. Trust me most, and by that I mean almost all, Pakistanis are pretty touchy when it comes to the security of Saudi Arabia. Our troops deployed there, the Kabah siege, the supposed secret nuclear umbrella for Saudia from Pakistan, the training programs Pakistan runs for Saudia, supposed Pakistani elements in the Saudi military command are all examples which most Pakistanis feel proud about. Their discontent is from the US troops stationed on Saudi soil, the money being paid to them and of course the more than flamboyant Saudi royalty.

 

[Oldman1]

Well its about time for Iran to wipe Israel off the map as it promised. Don't worry about retaliation, Allah is with you.

 

[longbrained]

Well... things are much much more complex than that. If China had the capacity to break the US/OPEC monopoly, it would have already vetoed Libya invasion.

Just know one important thing - This world is not run by so called patriotic governments, it is run by businessmen.

But Libya could not fend for itself. Iran with nukes can, so do you think Iranian businessmen and Chinese business men can come to some agreement about the oil business in the world which would side line the lead role of US?

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Well its about time for Iran to wipe Israel off the map as it promised. Don't worry about retaliation, Allah is with you.

Stop trolling here. This is not Fox channel website.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Will you scream "congratulations Saudi Arabians" too when we will eventually do the same thing long brained??

yes brother 1000% we will congratulate & will be happy , both saudi arabia & iran is our pride imagine if both of them join hand's inshaAllah it would be the best blessings that can happen to Muslims i pray for that amin

 

[Oldman1]

But Libya could not fend for itself. Iran with nukes can, so do you think Iranian businessmen and Chinese business men can come to some agreement about the oil business in the world which would side line the lead role of US?

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Stop trolling here. This is not Fox channel website.

Don't need to troll. Iran already proclaimed it. Its no secret. Actions speaks louder than words.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Don't need to troll. Iran already proclaimed it. Its no secret. Actions speaks louder than words.

Nope, that was just a part of desinformation war by US/Israel, and you got trolled

 

[Secur]

When last to last year the crude went up $125, China's growth rate came down by 20%. India's growth rate came down by 15%.

China's super growth rate makes it highly vulnerable to a crash lead by such external, artificial factors. China and India are the countries that are relied on to keep the world economy running in positive figures somehow. Neither of these countries has any sort of monopoly on oil, which is the fuel for growth, unlike the US or Russia or OPEC.

When oil goes up, these two economies will come down, creating a domino effect and taking everyone down with them. Especially China because of its size.

and US of A and NATO countries are surely immune of the effect of oil price increase ! right ?

 

[Oldman1]

Nope, that was just a part of desinformation war by US/Israel, and you got trolled

What??? You mean Iran really loves Israel??? They have no intention of pushing the Zionists out to the sea? They accept Jews in the Holy Land???

 

[President Camacho]

But Libya could not fend for itself. Iran with nukes can, so do you think Iranian businessmen and Chinese business men can come to some agreement about the oil business in the world which would side line the lead role of US?

When you say Chinese businessmen, or Iranian businessmen, it somehow gives the idea they would care more about the country than about their investment. Rather call them businessmen from Iran, or businessmen from China...

If China invests its money in Iranian oil, how much is it going to depend on that to fuel its economy? All the countries around the world keep substitute oil suppliers, because we never know what characteristic some particular country is going to display in future. China's investment in Iran will not be so big as to make China dependent on Iran. It will always remain to the point where Iran gets some money, and China gets some oil, and that's it.

Secondly, there are greater number of businessmen in the US, EU, Saudia etc. with anytime more money and influence than Chinese and Iranian businessmen. It will be more like some financially well off people of just two countries against the influential ones of the whole world. It would not make any business sense to turn others into your enemy, unless you have absolutely no other option left. But the options for Chinese are open, in the EU as well as in the US.

So the question is, what will be China's gain in becoming such a "close friend" of Iran at the cost of making rest of the influential world "angry" with it? Will Iran sell it at a cheaper rate? Or will Iran eat up all the RMB printed by China? Neither.

The character of businessmen and business houses works like Piranhas. The moment you appear weak, all others will eat you up.

Iran will have to come up with an aggressive diplomacy on its part, and learn to be flexible in the current times if it wants to attract big investments in its land to get rid of dependence on natural reserves (that is the main goal of all the countries - to be independent of the natural, but limited, reserves).

 

[Nothing]

not correct time to declare that we can kick some western a**. ME is going thru transformation and ppl want support from their neighboring countries to clear mess from their country .. Iran is getting more isolated by getting aggressive on nuclear front .. they are losing golden opportunity to become more friendly with other ME countries.. the way Turkey is doing ..

 

[Arian]

Well its about time for Iran to wipe Israel off the map as it promised. Don't worry about retaliation, Allah is with you.

And It's about time for the USA to stop demonizing Iran by trying to make Iran look like an anti-semitic country.

When you say Chinese businessmen, or Iranian businessmen, it somehow gives the idea they would care more about the country than about their investment. Rather call them businessmen from Iran, or businessmen from China...

If China invests its money in Iranian oil, how much is it going to depend on that to fuel its economy? All the countries around the world keep substitute oil suppliers, because we never know what characteristic some particular country is going to display in future. China's investment in Iran will not be so big as to make China dependent on Iran. It will always remain to the point where Iran gets some money, and China gets some oil, and that's it.

Secondly, there are greater number of businessmen in the US, EU, Saudia etc. with anytime more money and influence than Chinese and Iranian businessmen. It will be more like some financially well off people of just two countries against the influential ones of the whole world. It would not make any business sense to turn others into your enemy, unless you have absolutely no other option left. But the options for Chinese are open, in the EU as well as in the US.

So the question is, what will be China's gain in becoming such a "close friend" of Iran at the cost of making rest of the influential world "angry" with it? Will Iran sell it at a cheaper rate? Or will Iran eat up all the RMB printed by China? Neither.

The character of businessmen and business houses works like Piranhas. The moment you appear weak, all others will eat you up.

Iran will have to come up with an aggressive diplomacy on its part, and learn to be flexible in the current times if it wants to attract big investments in its land to get rid of dependence on natural reserves (that is the main goal of all the countries - to be independent of the natural, but limited, reserves).

China and Iran both consider the ties between them strategic. Iran has influence in Afghanistan, Afghanistan has a small border with China, Iran and China can construct a gas pipeline through Afghanistan and that will be the best option for the energy thirsty China I think. It's only because of the US presence in Afghanistan that Iran and China haven't already made Afghanistan a channel between them for energy supply.

Iran and China share same interests regarding a new world order. China is an emerging super power, a rival for the USA. Iran too sees the US global influence against its interests and will like a powerful China that can decrease the world's dependence on US policies. Don't forget that Iran has the world's highest Reserves/Production ratio among all oil rich countries. Iran still has dozens of places unexplored for oil and Iran's oil industry has not been exploited and excessively developed like other regional countries due to the sanctions. Iran's oil industry is a competition-free market for China because western nations, and recently Russian oil giants like Gazprom and Lukoil, refuse to invest in Iran's oil sector. That makes Iran an interesting market for a country like China that doesn't bow down to the US pressure and is seeking to replace the USA as the world's first power.

I can ensure you that China and Iran will stay friends. China knows perfectly well that if the current system in Iran changes, Iran will be a pro-western country like during the Shah, and no one would sustain economic/political damages from that more than China (and also Russia).

 

[Harry_Thomason]

What??? You mean Iran really loves Israel??? They have no intention of pushing the Zionists out to the sea? They accept Jews in the Holy Land???

Dont confuse not-loving and planning to attack. Iran NEVER said they would attack Israel, they NEVER said they would "wipe it off the map", you know who invented all those things? Pro-Israel propaganda, they needed "existential crisis" to drain more from US and to push sanctions for its enemy.

Its remarkable how far lies goes for the public perception, like recent "Iran is killing Saudi's ambassador!" nonsense. US knows its BS, as some CIA agents pointed out its most likely MOSAD work, and yet its pushed through the highest levels as a legit reason to increase sanctions on Iran.

 

[manojb]

Welcome to nuke club.
Now people in ME start stocking up food,water and iodine tablets!

 

[Oldman1]

Dont confuse not-loving and planning to attack. Iran NEVER said they would attack Israel, they NEVER said they would "wipe it off the map", you know who invented all those things? Pro-Israel propaganda, they needed "existential crisis" to drain more from US and to push sanctions for its enemy.

Its remarkable how far lies goes for the public perception, like recent "Iran is killing Saudi's ambassador!" nonsense. US knows its BS, as some CIA agents pointed out its most likely MOSAD work, and yet its pushed through the highest levels as a legit reason to increase sanctions on Iran.

Actions speaks louder than words. All they can is use proxies to destroy Israel. With a nuclear weapon Iran can now show its true self in public when the launch a nuke in Tel Aviv.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Actions speaks louder than words. All they can is use proxies to destroy Israel. With a nuclear weapon Iran can now show its true self in public when the launch a nuke in Tel Aviv.

The only threatening actions we see is by US and Israel.

And "proxies" destroying Israel? You mean a whole 1000 members of Hezbollah can destroy Israel? Or poor occupied Palestinians with home-made fireworks proudly called as rockets? The only thing that can destroy Israel is itself, and its doing mighty fine job at it, with apartheid against Palestinians, pissing off all neighbors, even alies lately. IF Israel wants to survive, it has to change its behavior and correct its wrongdoings for the last 70 years.