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The ISI does sterling work against immense obstacles against numerous enemies

We all respect the ISI for that

However I think its too much to ask the ISi to deal with external threats like india AND at the same time deal with a myriad of internal security issues like Rizvi, PTM etc


We need an FBI type organisation that works hand in hand with the ISI but tracks our internal issues..
 
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The ISI does sterling work against immense obstacles against numerous enemies

We all respect the ISI for that

However I think its too much to ask the ISi to deal with external threats like india AND at the same time deal with a myriad of internal security issues like Rizvi, PTM etc


We need an FBI type organisation that works hand in hand with the ISI but tracks our internal issues..

Pakistan has IB(Intelligence Bureau) tasked with domestic intelligence operation.
 
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I did say that and one member disagreed with me! I don't know why but what Pakistan needs;

A paramilitary reserves that can be activated at times like these. The number may be high but one must take into account the population bomb.

A paramilitary reserves of ~ 500K - 1million personnel that are activated in such times.
 
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I did say that and one member disagreed with me! I don't know why but what Pakistan needs;

A paramilitary reserves that can be activated at times like these. The number may be high but one must take into account the population bomb.

A paramilitary reserves of ~ 500K - 1million personnel that are activated in such times.
they should also trained to be anti riot and have flashbangs etc
 
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I did say that and one member disagreed with me! I don't know why but what Pakistan needs;

A paramilitary reserves that can be activated at times like these. The number may be high but one must take into account the population bomb.

A paramilitary reserves of ~ 500K - 1million personnel that are activated in such times.

They should have specialist training in beating the shit out of rioters.
 
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Fix the Judicial system, police and depoliticize all agencies.
We need strict laws to deal with law and order situations in the country.
And to implement these laws, we need to fix the police. We need audit and performance system in place. There has to be someone above Police to keep an eye on them, i guess Police internal Bureau.
Police should be train for all situations, riots, raids, hostage negotiations, etc. anyone taking bribe should be suspended.
 
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The ISI does sterling work against immense obstacles against numerous enemies

We all respect the ISI for that

However I think its too much to ask the ISi to deal with external threats like india AND at the same time deal with a myriad of internal security issues like Rizvi, PTM etc


We need an FBI type organisation that works hand in hand with the ISI but tracks our internal issues..

Pakistan has IB(Intelligence Bureau) tasked with domestic intelligence operation.

isnt FIA that?

1.) The majority of the ISI's wings are internal-focused.

2.) We also have the MI, which works internally but is of course more focused on military affairs.

3.) We have the IB and the FIA at the Federal level.

4.) We have the police, with its various departments (CTD, Special Branch, etc.) at the Provincial level.

5.) We have paramilitary (FC, Rangers, etc.) as well.

What we really need is a major reorganization that:
a.) spins off the ISI's external wings into a new foreign-focused intel agency headed by a 3-star (the internal wings remain under the existing DG-I, also a 3-star)

b.) merges the IB, FIA, CTDs, etc., into one federal FBI/FSB/Shabak-style organization free of political interference with separate departments for:
-organized crime
-complex financial crime
-counter-terrorism (some overlap with the ISI)
-counter-intel (some overlap with the ISI)

c.) raises dedicated riot control wings in the paramilitary organizations with specifically picked officers and soldiers that do not have radical/extremist views, so they can effectively battle uneducated mullahs destroying private property and disrupting public life

This will result in the perfect balance of power. I've thought about this in-depth.
 
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1.) The majority of the ISI's wings are internal-focused.

2.) We also have the MI, which works internally but is of course more focused on military affairs.

3.) We have the IB and the FIA at the Federal level.

4.) We have the police, with its various departments (CTD, Special Branch, etc.) at the Provincial level.

5.) We have paramilitary (FC, Rangers, etc.) as well.

What we really need is a major reorganization that:
a.) spins off the ISI's external wings into a new foreign-focused intel agency headed by a 3-star (the internal wings remain under the existing DG-I, also a 3-star)

b.) merges the IB, FIA, CTDs, etc., into one federal FBI/FSB/Shabak-style organization free of political interference with separate departments for:
-organized crime
-complex financial crime
-counter-terrorism (some overlap with the ISI)
-counter-intel (some overlap with the ISI)

c.) raises dedicated riot control wings in the paramilitary organizations with specifically picked officers and soldiers that do not have radical/extremist views, so they can effectively battle uneducated mullahs destroying private property and disrupting public life

This will result in the perfect balance of power. I've thought about this in-depth.
nice, but what about national guard?
 
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Pakistan has IB(Intelligence Bureau) tasked with domestic intelligence operation.
You don't need FBI type agency. Pakistan is doing a sterling job on Internal Security!

They should have specialist training in beating the shit out of rioters.
That's not how riot control works!

they should also trained to be anti riot and have flashbangs etc
Crowd control doesn't need Flash bangs, you have been watching too many Hollywood movies! What you need is stringent laws, good enforcement and an independent judiciary that is supported by the Executive.

The ISI does sterling work against immense obstacles against numerous enemies

We all respect the ISI for that

However I think its too much to ask the ISi to deal with external threats like india AND at the same time deal with a myriad of internal security issues like Rizvi, PTM etc


We need an FBI type organisation that works hand in hand with the ISI but tracks our internal issues..
Pakistan really doesn't need any more security agencies!
 
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The ISI does sterling work against immense obstacles against numerous enemies

We all respect the ISI for that

However I think its too much to ask the ISi to deal with external threats like india AND at the same time deal with a myriad of internal security issues like Rizvi, PTM etc


We need an FBI type organisation that works hand in hand with the ISI but tracks our internal issues..

who told you FBI N CIA are not working hand in hand with--TTP-PTM-ISIS....
asking FBI is like wishing for hell
 
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