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India's Mighty Su-30MKI Fighter Jets Have a Big Problem

in that case pakistanies should never highlite it as logik says if your enemy is weak and making mistakes never make him aware of it and talk to him about it but pakistanies are doing opposite is that plain stupidity or suddenlli you want indian air force to be strong in that case isnt it "mulk dushmani" :azn: :devil:


Beta ghalti ho gai---maaf kardo unhain---ainda nahin bolain gay----.
 
Beta ghalti ho gai---maaf kardo unhain---ainda nahin bolain gay----.
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so whats your point .... does it mean pakistanies to caress their supressed , bruised and frustated egos find some fun and ego boosting by making fun of indian defnce even knowing unlike pakistanies indian aknowledge theirmistakes and try to improove them by learning lessons form their misfortunes and keep on improoving their external & internal defnces slowli but steadily so what did they achive by it :azn:
ooh no, Pakistanis just reply to Indian who claim they need no improvements anymore, who think all lessons have been learned and whatever they have got if actually the best equipment. Now strangely, that BEST thing can change with the rumors, like you remember how Su-30 used to be the best, then Euro Fighters were deemed to be some alien tech, suddenly it was realized that no that best thing ever made is actually the rafale but there were doubts that may be it was EF --- then it came came a full circle to Su-30s again. Different roles different planes but all carrying an ever changing title of "the best plane ever made" :)
We Pakistanis just provide you guys with proofs and facts claiming otherwise. Understandably, it is quite hard to digest however.
 
ooh no, Pakistanis just reply to Indian who claim they need no improvements anymore, who think all lessons have been learned and whatever they have got if actually the best equipment. Now strangely, that BEST thing can change with the rumors, like you remember how Su-30 used to be the best, then Euro Fighters were deemed to be some alien tech, suddenly it was realized that no that best thing ever made is actually the rafale but there were doubts that may be it was EF --- then it came came a full circle to Su-30s again. Different roles different planes but all carrying an ever changing title of "the best plane ever made" :)
We Pakistanis just provide you guys with proofs and facts claiming otherwise. Understandably, it is quite hard to digest however.

SU 30 MKI needs upgradation

And we are doing that ; while Rafale has its own strengths

They are complementary hence we are buying it

Therefore IAF requested French Air force and they did this exercise

Rafale Vs Su-30 MKi

“…Rafale is the best fighter plane in the world” – Air Chief Marshal Denis Mercier » Indian Defence Review
 
ooh no, Pakistanis just reply to Indian who claim they need no improvements anymore, who think all lessons have been learned and whatever they have got if actually the best equipment. Now strangely, that BEST thing can change with the rumors, like you remember how Su-30 used to be the best, then Euro Fighters were deemed to be some alien tech, suddenly it was realized that no that best thing ever made is actually the rafale but there were doubts that may be it was EF --- then it came came a full circle to Su-30s again. Different roles different planes but all carrying an ever changing title of "the best plane ever made" :)
We Pakistanis just provide you guys with proofs and facts claiming otherwise. Understandably, it is quite hard to digest however.
no your wrong again indians never say their are no improovements to be made in indian defnces rather most of them say the opposite and themselfs accuse their army and air force top genrals for it and many pakistanies seem to be amazed how can indians critisize their "musslla afwaaj"

now the pinnacle of any tech keeps changing at one time the sabers were the best then it was F16 , then came F15 and now its F35/F22

now lets talk about india yes typhoon is the best 4.5+ gen fighter deu to its bodyframe and engines but rafale even with a smaller rodome beats it deu to its radar and SPECTRA suite and its onli role doctroine while typhoon was concived as a air superiorty fighter jet but india needed rafale for what it was concived in the first place a first & deep strike fighter bomber which doesnt needs to be escorted in and owt of enemy zone and can engage all types of threats in a single sortie

now about indian MKI its anything but perfect rather its opposite its maintainence intensive fighter with a very big and powerfull radar and EW suites and self protection jammers which can carry twice as much wepons load as any F16 in PAF and we are trying to fit AESA based Radar & EW suite and jammers on it and new less maintainence oriented version of AL-31 on it

but even like Tejas MKI is not pakistan should be worried about its the upgraded Jags , Mig 29s & M2Ks about whome most pakistanies never talk about i wonder why ?

I think soon IAF will have 300 of them.
and what are you doing to counter that threat :azn:
 
Actually, when the MKI was inducted in IA, It had a lots of problems. Most of them are ironed out in a decade. Engines have witnessed some problem and reason is identified to be the bearing problem. It shall be replaced with new high quality material bearing. We hope that it shall improve the engine failure frequency.

From current year, it is expected that availability of MKI shall improve great deal.
 
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SU 30 MKI needs upgradation

And we are doing that ; while Rafale has its own strengths

They are complementary hence we are buying it

Therefore IAF requested French Air force and they did this exercise

Rafale Vs Su-30 MKi

“…Rafale is the best fighter plane in the world” – Air Chief Marshal Denis Mercier » Indian Defence Review
That is good for you dear that you are improving an already potent machine. There have been short comings, flaws and problems. Things that members here are very sensitive about and often are not open minded enough to argue with facts. Your post have been a rare exception, you can go through last four five pages and will see what i am saying. :)
I will however not go into that "the worlds best plane" debate again, we have all seen hoe FREQUENTLY that have changed going round and round in circles. :)

no your wrong again indians never say their are no improovements to be made in indian defnces rather most of them say the opposite and themselfs accuse their army and air force top genrals for it and many pakistanies seem to be amazed how can indians critisize their "musslla afwaaj"
:) NEVER is a tall word, mind going through the last four five pages and see for yourself? MAY BE you will understand what i am saying.

now the pinnacle of any tech keeps changing at one time the sabers were the best then it was F16 , then came F15 and now its F35/F22
However if we go by Indian logic, someday F16 can be the "worlds best place" again if that it what IAF is buying, going round and round in circles is what i am talking about.

now lets talk about india yes typhoon is the best 4.5+ gen fighter deu to its bodyframe and engines but rafale even with a smaller rodome beats it deu to its radar and SPECTRA suite and its onli role doctroine while typhoon was concived as a air superiorty fighter jet but india needed rafale for what it was concived in the first place a first & deep strike fighter bomber which doesnt needs to be escorted in and owt of enemy zone and can engage all types of threats in a single sortie

now about indian MKI its anything but perfect rather its opposite its maintainence intensive fighter with a very big and powerfull radar and EW suites and self protection jammers which can carry twice as much wepons load as any F16 in PAF and we are trying to fit AESA based Radar & EW suite and jammers on it and new less maintainence oriented version of AL-31 on it

but even like Tejas MKI is not pakistan should be worried about its the upgraded Jags , Mig 29s & M2Ks about whome most pakistanies never talk about i wonder why ?


and what are you doing to counter that threat :azn:
I am not going into the technical specs, as mentioned earlier, different planes different roles. Different planes can be good in different roles, it is "THE best plane" title that is laughable. Again, i will have to say that i do not need to point you to hundred of posts related to this point, it is IMPORSSIBLE that you have not read them already so if you will want to understand and learn you will do it. If not, no number of proofs or facts can help you dear. :)

Bot combined is comparable to the whole 4th gen fleet of PAF :lol:
MUCH SUPERIOR nahi haan? :o:

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However if we go by Indian logic, someday F16 can be the "worlds It best place" again if that it what IAF is buying, going round and round in circles is what i am talking about.
Its Not About Logic But Bare Fact India Tested All Western Formidable Aircraft's that are operational During MMRCA Evaluation Trials Including F-16 Block 60+ Which Was best of its Class We Have Both its Advantages And Short-Comings Documented With Us
 
Quantity my dear quantity :lol:
Anyways i have counted those 49 bandars too :rofl:
The ones who can work on there own and don't need trucks? :rofl:

Its Not About Logic But Bare Fact India Tested All Western Formidable Aircraft's that are operational During MMRCA Evaluation Trials Including F-16 Block 60+ Which Was best of its Class We Have Both its Advantages And Short-Comings Documented With Us

AGAIN, you have not bothered to read the previous posts, have read my post out of context and decided to jump gun and reply. :)
Will you care to read the previous posts, PLEASE?? you will see what i was talking about! :)
 
No the one which will have to face Mirage 2000 and MiG 29 :rofl:
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Hilarious man,
you seriously think that such stupid posts, rants and whining will win you any argument? :lol:
Ran out of facts so lets get back to whining!! :lol:
Good for you mate!!

Anyway, thanks for giving respect to the plane by calling it a bandar, i mean we all know aboutbandars and there significance in you culture. So it must be out of respect :P
 
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