Indian Army Officially confirms Beheading of Soldiers.

[Sugarcane]

Wow I'm surprised at the beheading. It was probably a low rank soldier that did that. Officers are more professional than that.

No - Low rank soldiers are also professionals and they don't go to extreme unless specifically ordered. And no officer will just suddenly come up with idea of why not bring some heads. As per last ISPR statement, Pakistan hasn't done this. period.

 

[RajputWarrior]

Disgusting. What do you expect from these people?

 

[iajj]

Yes - the act is extreme and doesn't make any sense in 21st century and must be stopped. But again - as per official stance of Pak Army, they have denied the incident and asked for UN probe. No soldier at stop makes decision that why not take his head - unless he was ordered to do it and no officer under any normal circumstance will pass this kind of order. And story as narrated it Indian media leaves many question. So, things are not as simple as it looks like. Regarding the act, yes unfortunately both side has done it in past which was initiated by other-side. But nevertheless - I will not support Pak Army to compete in these kind of acts.

every family that sends their son to the battlefield must contemplate the possibility that he may die there. still, a family expects to see the return of the body to be properly mourned over. so beheading is not a practice that should be supported in opposing armies.

still, the account you related is really appreciated because it sheds important light on this issue because we know it wasn't meant to be an act of intentional cruelty and deliberate provocation but grew out of a series of actions and reactions that had in the past bordered on similar extremeness. for me, it just means so far this week neither side really went deliberately out of the pale to start an all-out conflict, so we really don't need more sensationalistic account about body mutiliation of a particular soldier any more. i am not saying we should be desensitivized to out-of-bound actions: both sides must have done similar acts on enemies' or their bodies and should not have done so, but right now the most important thing is to put everything back into its context and tone down the unnecessary, war-mongering rhetoric in dehumanizing one's enemy as if they ate babies and cannibalized corpses.

again, if pakistani side has taken bodies from the indian side, they should be returned. if similar incidents happened in the past and still didn't spiral into war, then indian side should acknowledge this history and refrain from turning this into a bigger deal than it should be. i cannot imagine either country or any of their allies in the mood for even a small war right now.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Repercussion after one year! Comeon mate, LOC is place where score is settled very next available moment! If that was the case then I must say Indian side did not respect ongoing peace process. Considering past history of extreme rivalry, the cross border raid by IA meant a clear-cut sabotage! Only viable option to work out all standing issues, including LOC, is through bilateral settlements. Undermining negotiations means you don't want progress on peace.

Colonel Jagdeep Dahiya is spokesperson of MoD, not of IA.

No after 3 months. That incident happened around october, the same time bunker construction started.

 

[Awesome]

Lets leave the action/reaction for one moment here -


One question for you - Do you justify beheading?

Do you justify murder?

 

[KRAIT]

Do you justify murder?

Murder, there was a firefight, and both had guns. All were Shaheeds. But beheading was pathetic and animal behavior. Don't dodge the real issue by calling it was a murder.

Again, do you justify Beheading ?

 

[Awesome]

Flip flops will always keep things in the doubt now. The family is right to demand they get their head back. Whether its from PA or IA that's a question they need to get an answer to.

Not very hard to mess up a simple statement like the body has a head or not.

Murder, there was a firefight, and both had guns. All were Shaheeds. But beheading was pathetic and animal behavior. Don't dodge the real issue by calling it was a murder.

Again, do you justify Beheading ?

The pointlessness of the fight is what makes it a murder. You guys killed a guy first - the fact that if you threw roses on him, doesn't change the fact that you needlessly attacked and killed a guy from our side first.

After death you can make a keema out of the body and it doesn't make one bit of difference to the dead. Moreover we can never be sure if the GoI is honest on this matter or not, unless they have the beheading on video and the video ties the beheading to a known PA soldier.

 

[KRAIT]

Flip flops will always keep things in the doubt now. The family is right to demand they get their head back. Whether its from PA or IA that's a question they need to get an answer to.
Not very hard to mess up a simple statement like the body has a head or not.
The pointlessness of the fight is what makes it a murder. You guys killed a guy first - the fact that if you threw roses on him, doesn't change the fact that you needlessly attacked and killed a guy from our side first.
After death you can make a keema out of the body and it doesn't make one bit of difference to the dead. Moreover we can never be sure if the GoI is honest on this matter or not, unless they have the beheading on video and the video ties the beheading to a known PA soldier.

Well, when I read after you kill the soldier, anyone can make a keema out of the obdy, proves me I am talking to insensitive person, who doesn't understand a soldier's body has to be respected even after his shahadat.

IA told about the bravery of a PA soldier and he got Nishan e Haider, his family was happy about IA's professionalism but here PA beheads a soldier and take the head as a trophy.

And you asking beheading video, our soldier don't go with handheld camera and I don't think your did, may be they did but why would you release the video. For you, you can say an animal bite off his head. Kindly make note that now if anyone says India is behind TTP and BLA, prove us with a video that an Indian giving them money and weapons.

If you don't have better argument, its good to not give any. Keema, video etc. are just clutching the straws.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Flip flops will always keep things in the doubt now. The family is right to demand they get their head back. Whether its from PA or IA that's a question they need to get an answer to.

Not very hard to mess up a simple statement like the body has a head or not.



The pointlessness of the fight is what makes it a murder. You guys killed a guy first - the fact that if you threw roses on him, doesn't change the fact that you needlessly attacked and killed a guy from our side first.

After death you can make a keema out of the body and it doesn't make one bit of difference to the dead. Moreover we can never be sure if the GoI is honest on this matter or not, unless they have the beheading on video and the video ties the beheading to a known PA soldier.

A really insensitive post. Krait have given an appropriate reply at #83

 

[SEAL]

My condolence to the families of victims on both sides.
Indian army is responsible for this they killed our soldiers first and we have to sent a strong message.

Now its only the Indian media beating the war drums and playing with the emotions of Indian nation particularly saffron terrorists. Stop this randi rona when you join armed forces you better be ready for such actions, Taliban did this to out 100's of soldiers and civilians see Israel, usa in iraq and A'stan.

Waqt aa gya ha India, Baatein kam aur Khail zaida.

 

[Awesome]

Well, when I read after you kill the soldier, anyone can make a keema out of the obdy, proves me I am talking to insensitive person, who doesn't understand a soldier's body has to be respected even after his shahadat.

IA told about the bravery of a PA soldier and he got Nishan e Haider, his family was happy about IA's professionalism but here PA beheads a soldier and take the head as a trophy.

And you asking beheading video, our soldier don't go with handheld camera and I don't think your did, may be they did but why would you release the video. For you, you can say an animal bite off his head. Kindly make note that now if anyone says India is behind TTP and BLA, prove us with a video that an Indian giving them money and weapons.

If you don't have better argument, its good to not give any. Keema, video etc. are just clutching the straws.

If only dialog baazi was enough to get convictions in a court of law.

In any court of law, the aggressor is punished, even if the defender ends up killing 50 in response.

If you are going to start a fight, don't think you will be allowed to even set the intensity of that fight.

If you don't like it, pangay mat lo.

I agree on the bit about not taking India's name on TTP like incidents. Take it with proof and then peeche mat hato.

 

[Luffy 500]

India denies PAK proposal of UN enquiry & now farts out loud. Shamaless chankyans. Deception & backstabbing is in the chankya genes. Even if PAK did indeed beheaded some aggressive chankyas due to their unprovoked aggression, They did the right thing like any other self-respecting country. But alas chankyans whine & lie like such shameless hypocrites. India should stop whining & apologize to PAK for their balant aggression.

 

[KRAIT]

If only dialog baazi was enough to get convictions in a court of law.
In any court of law, the aggressor is punished, even if the defender ends up killing 50 in response.
If you are going to start a fight, don't think you will be allowed to even set the intensity of that fight.
If you don't like it, pangay mat lo.
I agree on the bit about not taking India's name on TTP like incidents. Take it with proof and then peeche mat hato.

Well intensity of fight will of course be set by you, after all offensive power used is proportional to enemy's offensive power. And we will make sure, we trump yours.

As for dialogue baazi, we didn't go running to UN, US and China.

In court of law, aggressor is punished but if defender crosses the line of humanity, he also gets punishment. Kindly know about the court of law.

We don't like pangay but we don't let it go without teaching a lesson.

As for proofs, you are right, bring proofs of our involvement with TTP and BLA and prove it to the world. A suggestion, take it to UN and then ask for UN probe too.

India denies PAK proposal of UN enquiry & now farts out loud. Shamaless chankyans. Deception & backstabbing is in the chankya genes. Even if PAK did indeed beheaded some aggressive chankyas due to their unprovoked aggression, They did the right thing like any other self-respecting country. But alas chankyans whine & lie like such shameless hypocrites. India should stop whining & apologize to PAK for their balant aggression.

Coming from a resident of a country who backstabbed their own brothers in 1971.

 

[Arya Desa]

Beheading is common in their "culture" so why are we surprised. What shocks me is the nil response by India.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

India denies PAK proposal of UN enquiry & now farts out loud. Shamaless chankyans. Deception & backstabbing is in the chankya genes. Even if PAK did indeed beheaded some aggressive chankyas due to their unprovoked aggression, They did the right thing like any other self-respecting country. But alas chankyans whine & lie like such shameless hypocrites. India should stop whining & apologize to PAK for their balant aggression.

Absence of clowns like u, will make the forum bore