India To Recieve Third Set Of Six C-130J Hercules Aircraft

[SamantK]

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India To Recieve Third Set Of Six C-130J Hercules Aircraft


The Indian Air Force will receive six more C-130J Hercules aircraft

Earlier in 2008, India acquired six heavy airlift aircraft from Lockheed Martin in a deal worth $1.1 billion. And in 2011, India ordered an additional six Super Hercules aircraft from the U.S at an estimated cost of $1 billion.

So, I think it is 12 only...

 

[sancho]

How many Special Ops Plane of this size will we buy..? 18 is tad too much. I hope this lot and the coming are used for logistical purposes only.

So far only 2 x sqauds were raised for special ops and that's why we ordered 6+6, any further procurement could have other reasons too, like mid air refuelling and recently there were talk about special versions for cyclone research too, but lets wait for official reports.

 

[tvsram1992]

3X6 C130Js will be a great boost for our Armed Forces for special operations .

 

[Nishan_101]

I am sure that they have placed an order for the third batch of 6 C-130s and will going to order another 12 till 2015. I am also sure that 56 C27J will also going to be procured as well.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I'm not sure if this plane is for special forces only as we have dire need of this kind of planes in transport role.may be it will be used in dual role..

 

[angeldemon_007]

And in 2011, India ordered an additional six Super Hercules aircraft from the U.S at an estimated cost of $1 billion.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...x-c-130j-hercules-aircraft.html#ixzz21kP0sG5O

Its not the thrid set....The six C130j deal that India signed in 2011 has just received the congress approval. In 2011 India and LM signed the deal but until the US Congress approves the sales (especially since it is FMS) the production won't start. Now the work will start. Its the follow on order.

IAF has the need for more C130j as ACM said before but the will have to be cleared by MOD, Finance Ministry and CCS. I doubt any more orders for this aircraft will be cleared especially since MRTA will be ready by 2016-17 and An-32 were recently upgraded by Ukraine. Not to mention deal for 56 C27j/C295 worth 2. billion$ will soon be signed.

 

[Nishan_101]

Its not the thrid set....The six C130j deal that India signed in 2011 has just received the congress approval. In 2011 India and LM signed the deal but until the US Congress approves the sales (especially since it is FMS) the production won't start. Now the work will start. Its the follow on order.

IAF has the need for more C130j as ACM said before but the will have to be cleared by MOD, Finance Ministry and CCS. I doubt any more orders for this aircraft will be cleared especially since MRTA will be ready by 2016-17 and An-32 were recently upgraded by Ukraine. Not to mention deal for 56 C27j/C295 worth 2. billion$ will soon be signed.

100% sure for the the third batch of 6-8 C-130s

 

[ejaz007]

India Awards $1B Contract for 6 More C-130Js

NEW DELHI — Top brass in the Indian Army and Air Force expressed shock over the Defence Ministry’s decision to award a $1 billion repeat contract on Dec. 27 for six additional C-130J Hercules transport aircraft, saying the military has many more pressing purchases to tackle.

“Our top priority is [to] have fighters as soon as possible, but we are surprised by the MoD move on why the government is not signing the $12 billion Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft [contract with Dassault of France] and instead is buying transport aircraft for us,” a senior Air Force official said.

An Army official pointed out that the service has no combat-worthy artillery systems and that it was hoping the MoD would finalize a deal for 145 ultra-light howitzers from the US. He added that more than $40 billion in Army procurement is in the pipeline but no significant purchased are being made.

The Air Force official pointed out, however, that the service does need the troop-lift capacity the new aircraft will provide, especially for combat and logistics in view of the threat perceptions on the Sino-Indian border.

The military relies mainly on An-32 aircraft for troop lift and other logistical assignments. The Air Force had already ordered six Lockheed Martin C-130Js, and the new order would bring the total inventory to 12.

An MoD source said the Indian government had cleared the deal, ahead of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to Washington in September.

The Indian Air Force bought six C-130J transport aircraft in a $962 million deal in 2007. The Indian Air Force also proposes to buy 10 Boeing C-17 transport aircraft worth over $4.5 billion to add to its transport fleet of Russian-made IL-76 and An-32 aircraft.

India has signed contracts worth over $10 billion since 2002 after Washington lifted sanctions against India. Over $4 billion worth of contracts are awaiting inking, likely to take place within the next three to six months, sources said. These include purchase of 22 Apache attack helicopters, 15 Chinook heavy-lift choppers, four P-8I maritime patrol aircraft, all made by Boeing, and 145 M777 ultra-light howitzers guns.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20131231/DEFREG03/312310009/India-Awards-1B-Contract-6-More-C-130Js

 

[Manvantaratruti]

The damn planes are Far too Expensive.

When will IA stop taking the public money for granted and focus on spending that 2 Billion $ in helping India develop a reasonable logistics aircraft.

 

[janon]

The damn planes are Far too Expensive.

When will IA stop taking the public money for granted and focus on spending that 2 Billion $ in helping India develop a reasonable logistics aircraft.

We are doing that too. There is an MRTA being developed by India, and an MTA in collaboration with Russia. But until such things materialize, we have no choice but to purchase from abroad.

BTW, these aren't mere logistic/trasport aircraft. These are specially kitted for special ops deep in enemy territory. The regular C-130s are much cheaper.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

We are doing that too. There is an MRTA being developed by India, and an MTA in collaboration with Russia. But until such things materialize, we have no choice but to purchase from abroad.

BTW, these aren't mere logistic/trasport aircraft. These are specially kitted for special ops deep in enemy territory. The regular C-130s are much cheaper.

There is RTA and the MTA, but that is something that should have been started at least 5-7 years back. But IA & IAF is still pussyfooting over the MTA and have shown only limited interest in the RTA. Reality is that they should have been driving the program.

C-130 are huge lumbering aircraft's which has limited ability to remain invisible. They carry standard EW and countermeasure Flares. Worse they are subject to US control and invasive inspection and strings.

A self made bad machine is still better than the best machine made abroad. (especially from an unreliable nation)

 

[janon]

There is RTA and the MTA, but that is something that should have been started at least 5-7 years back. But IA & IAF is still pussyfooting over the MTA and have shown only limited interest in the RTA. Reality is that they should have been driving the program.

C-130 are huge lumbering aircraft's which has limited ability to remain invisible. They carry standard EW and countermeasure Flares. Worse they are subject to US control and invasive inspection and strings.

A self made bad machine is still better than the best machine made abroad. (especially from an unreliable nation)

Any aircraft that transports special forces will have to be huge, you can't expect a Tejas or mig-21 to drop commandos. The C-130-J-30 spec ops version are the best for that particular niche in the world. They are not bound by US inspections and strings - in fact, some of the most sensitive stuff on board were removed precisely to get around those strings, and those items were sourced locally, so that the invasive american treaties could be bypassed. The IAF would not have purchased them, had those provisions been in force.

About the RTA/MTA et al - those have been in the making for several years already. Check out when the MTA issue began to be discussed with the Russians. More than a decade, if I'm not mistaken. But that thing still does not exist even on paper, which is typical for co-developments with Russia. Inordinate delays are the norm, and even now we have no idea when the first MTA will roll out.

In such a scenario, there is no option but to purchase from the best in the world, and wait for our own stuff to arrive. Note that it's not one or the other - we are still pursuing the homemade programs. But if there was to be a war this decade, and the IAF had to drop special forces behind enemy lines, what choice do we have? The C-130s are far more survivable than the ancient Il-76, not to mention a helluva lot cheaper and simpler to operate.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

Any aircraft that transports special forces will have to be huge, you can't expect a Tejas or mig-21 to drop commandos. The C-130-J-30 spec ops version are the best for that particular niche in the world. They are not bound by US inspections and strings - in fact, some of the most sensitive stuff on board were removed precisely to get around those strings, and those items were sourced locally, so that the invasive american treaties could be bypassed. The IAF would not have purchased them, had those provisions been in force.

About the RTA/MTA et al - those have been in the making for several years already. Check out when the MTA issue began to be discussed with the Russians. More than a decade, if I'm not mistaken. But that thing still does not exist even on paper, which is typical for co-developments with Russia. Inordinate delays are the norm, and even now we have no idea when the first MTA will roll out.

In such a scenario, there is no option but to purchase from the best in the world, and wait for our own stuff to arrive. Note that it's not one or the other - we are still pursuing the homemade programs. But if there was to be a war this decade, and the IAF had to drop special forces behind enemy lines, what choice do we have? The C-130s are far more survivable than the ancient Il-76, not to mention a helluva lot cheaper and simpler to operate.

You are wrong about the US strings being cut. They are still there. Google it up. I know because I have worked for the P-8I program and know very well about all the strings attached.

IAF should have been planning for a war in this decade at least 10-20 years back and should have had a reliable efficient and effective working plan in place along with a plan B.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

no... may be for some technical reasons.

He was joking,but has been suspended for the comment i think.Don't mind.

 

[janon]

He was joking,but has been suspended for the comment i think.Don't mind.

Check the date of his comment, and the one you are replying to.