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If there is Crimean War 2, which side would win?

which side win?


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Both sides have nuclear weapons, so no one will be a complete loser without having other side destroyed too.

So the winner of such massive scale conflict is.... animals. They'll finally get to live on a peaceful planet again without the selfish and arrogant humans who not only didn't have mercy on them, but also didn't even spare each other.
 
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Both sides have nuclear weapons, so no one will be a complete loser without having other side destroyed too.

So the winner of such massive scale conflict is.... animals. They'll finally get to live on a peaceful planet again without the selfish and arrogant humans who not only didn't have mercy on them, but also didn't even spare each other.


Humans are puny compared to nature. Even if nukes are used, which I highly doubt, the effect on nature is minimal. Humans put only like 0.01% of CO2 into the air over hundreds of years.

In Crimean War 2, the US would lose its aircraft carriers and warships fast from DF-21D anti ship ballistic missiles transferred from China.
 
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OP must get the awards for opening most number of threads on hypothetical scenarios. Mostly improbable ones.

OT : There simply can not be a repeat of this Crimean war. And even if it repeats, outcome will be same.
 
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OP must get the awards for opening most number of threads on hypothetical scenarios. Mostly improbable ones.


Don't be so sure. If Ukraine becomes a NATO country and does Chapter 5 to regain Crimea, then there would be Crimean War 2, especially if GOP take over White House in 2017. We all know who GOP works, the military industrial complex. Crimean War 2 is very likely.
 
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Don't be so sure. If Ukraine becomes a NATO country and does Chapter 5 to regain Crimea, then there would be Crimean War 2, especially if GOP take over White House in 2017. We all know who GOP works, the military industrial complex. Crimean War 2 is very likely.

How could Ukraine invoke Article 5 if it's the aggressor? Article 5 is a mutual defense agreement that sees member nations respond to another nation's attack a member of NATO. If Ukraine is the aggressor and attempts to retake Crimea or other lost territory it cannot invoke any NATO article, let alone Article 5.

Might I suggest more research?
 
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How could Ukraine invoke Article 5 if it's the aggressor? Article 5 is a mutual defense agreement that sees member nations respond to another nation's attack a member of NATO be responded to. If Ukraine is the aggressor and attempts to retake Crimea or other lost territory it cannot invoke any NATO article, let alone Article 5.

Might I suggest more research?


Ukraine could provoke Russia to attack, like how Georgia provoked Russia to attack and started Russia Georgia War in 2008.

But it could be much simpler than that. Since NATO is Washington Treaty, the US government has the final say as to weather an attack occurred against a NATO country. GOP would no doubt fabricate something and say Russia attacked Ukraine and therefore start Crimean War 2. GOP's boss is military industrial complex.

Actually, if GOP takes over WH in 2017, Ukraine doesn't even need to be a NATO member for Crimean War 2 to start. The US would unilaterally start the war just so military industrial complex gets even more profit.
 
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Sorry but US only goes to war against countries whose militarise are far inferior to that of the US.
 
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Sorry but US only goes to war against countries whose militarise are far inferior to that of the US.


I beg to differ. At this point, GOP is pretty much crazy and pushing for war, and a big war at that. Everyone knows no one would be crazy enough to use nukes. Look how aggressive GOP members like John McCain have gotten recently, sending weapons to Ukraine and what not. A big war means big profits for military industrial complex.
 
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I beg to differ. At this point, GOP is pretty much crazy and pushing for war, and a big war at that. Everyone knows no one would be crazy enough to use nukes. Look how aggressive GOP members like John McCain have gotten recently. A big war means big profits for military industrial complex.
The Americans know very well they can't win a war against Russia anywhere near Russia. At most they will fund and train insurgency across Russia.
 
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The Americans know very well they can't win a war against Russia anywhere near Russia. At most they will fund and train insurgency across Russia.


The US will not win. The US does not have to win, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan. The aim is not to win. The aim is profits in the pockets of politicians and military industrial complex. Yeah, lots of soldiers would die, but they are not from families of politicians.
 
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The US will not win. The US does not have to win, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan. The aim is not to win. The aim is profits in the pockets of politicians and military industrial complex. Yeah, lots of soldiers would die, but they are not from families of politicians.
Sorry but this isn't Afghanistan or Iraq. If they want to go to war they will at least have to sacrifice 100,000 soldiers. I don't think the American government is willing to lose that many soldiers as this will cause a far cry among the people.
 
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