How many Pakistani members on this website respect Ahmadis?

[I S I]

I respect them but not their prophet.

 

[El Sidd]

Insaniyat.

hmm ok

 

[Nasr]

Well, Constitution of Pakistan, their CNIC & Passports say that they are not Muslim, their religion is mentioned as Ahmadiya on their identity documents. Aren't you satisfied with it? Will writing Kafir instead of Ahmadiya give satisfaction to "Muslims" and sense of security that their religion is not in danger?

Common sense, if they (qadiyanis) have been given a formal hearing, and they (qadiyanis) remain adamant to believe in Allah and yet believe someone being a Prophet of Allah after Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam then that constitutes a direct violation in Islam. And Islam is the domain of Allah, and we as Muslims MUST defend it.

The qadiyanis can just go ahead invent another religion on their own, but if that has any link to Islam, then they are in a separate category of their own. That's worse than being Kafir.

 

[Placemat]

I've noticed a lot of the liberal Pakistanis on this website showing love for Christians, Sikhs, and Hindus that are Pakistani. Do you guys share the same love for Ahmadis?

I personally don't consider Ahmadis as Muslim and have a certain disdain for them since they understand the basics of Islam, yet I respect them as Pakistanis. I just consider them as misguided people. But I find it ironic when a lot of you people show all of this love to minority religions, but then go on to insult and criticize them.

Maybe it's time for a lot of you brain dead sheep to either accept that you follow western trends or follow the basic principles of your religion.

In religion there is no guided or misguided notions, just a bunch of people taking different routes to nowhere.

Common sense, if they (qadiyanis) have been given a formal hearing, and they (qadiyanis) remain adamant to believe in Allah and yet believe someone being a Prophet of Allah after Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam then that constitutes a direct violation in Islam. And Islam is the domain of Allah, and we as Muslims MUST defend it.

The qadiyanis can just go ahead invent another religion on their own, but if that has any link to Islam, then they are in a separate category of their own. That's worse than being Kafir.

Indian legal system accept ahmadi as muslim as a sunni.

I respect them but not their prophet.

Thats difference bw you and them. And this ahows them in a better light.

 

[Musalman]

I have friends who are marzis

 

[Nasr]

Indian legal system accept ahmadi as muslim as a sunni

india is a pagan state, it has nothing to do with Islam, it was ruled by Muslims for almost 1000 years and yet it chose to remain Kafir. india has no authority to decide who is Muslim and who isn't. Incidentally, this mirza ghulam Ahmad comes from the indian town of qadian.

Islam is the domain for Muslims, and Muslims belong to the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam who is the final Prophet sent by Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. The Holy Qur'an, the book of the heavens, was sent to Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. No country which is Kafir, has the authority to determine who is Muslim.

 

[Placemat]

india is a pagan state, it has nothing to do with Islam, it was ruled by Muslims for almost 1000 years and yet it chose to remain Kafir. india has no authority to decide who is Muslim and who isn't. Incidentally, this mirza ghulam Ahmad comes from the indian town of qadian.

Islam is the domain for Muslims, and Muslims belong to the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam who is the final Prophet sent by Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. The Holy Qur'an, the book of the heavens, was sent to Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. No country which is Kafir, has the authority to determine who is Muslim.

Well indian law supersedes any type of Gods law

 

[Musafir117]

india is a pagan state, it has nothing to do with Islam, it was ruled by Muslims for almost 1000 years and yet it chose to remain Kafir. india has no authority to decide who is Muslim and who isn't. Incidentally, this mirza ghulam Ahmad comes from the indian town of qadian.

Islam is the domain for Muslims, and Muslims belong to the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam who is the final Prophet sent by Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. The Holy Qur'an, the book of the heavens, was sent to Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. No country which is Kafir, has the authority to determine who is Muslim.

No one fkn need your or sarkari Islamic State certificates who is Muslim whoes not, keep that certificates in your hairy azz and sometime pull em back kiss them than again shoved em back. That’s what that worthy.
In my opinion who recite Kalima e Shahada and witnessing oneness of God and Mohammad SAW His messenger and believing on five basic pillars of Islam is/are Muslims.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

marzais are the only one who are in Israels army imagin their agenda
https://thelondonpost.net/over-600-pakistani-qadiyanis-in-israeli-army/

 

[Nasr]

Well indian law supersedes any type of Gods law

Well the indian state does NOT have any authority over Muslims, 2 billion on this planet, governed by the Holy Qur'an, the One - the Only - the Absolute, Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah.

You all are pagans, with multiple deities you worship, whom you consider gods. And that by definition, is a non-starter to this discussion.

 

[I S I]

In religion there is no guided or misguided notions, just a bunch of people taking different routes to nowhere.


Indian legal system accept ahmadi as muslim as a sunni.


Thats difference bw you and them. And this ahows them in a better light.

Stfu indiot

 

[Placemat]

Well the indian state does NOT have any authority over Muslims, 2 billion on this planet, governed by the Holy Qur'an, the One - the Only - the Absolute, Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah.

You all are pagans, with multiple deities you worship, whom you consider gods. And that by definition, is a non-starter to this discussion.

Too bad. Ahmedi are muslims

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

I respect them as Pakistanis only.
As far as religion is concerned if they accept being Non-Muslims, I will respect them, otherwise not.

 

[Nasr]

No one fkn need your or sarkari Islamic State certificates who is Muslim whoes not, keep that certificates in your hairy azz and sometime pull em back kiss them than again shoved em back. That’s what that worthy.
In my opinion who recite Kalima e Shahada and witnessing oneness of God and Mohammad SAW His messenger and believing on five basic pillars of Islam is/are Muslims.

Watch your mouth, drop down your tone and mind your manners. This is a discussion, with an open question to all Muslims and as a Muslim who practices my faith, I responded and will continue to do so. Carry on with the personal attacks, and you shall be reported.

The fundamental principle on which a Muslim is defined, is the Qalima-e-Shahadah. Absolute belief that there is no God but Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah and Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam is the FINAL PROPHET OF ALLAH. Anyone deviating from the Shahadah by even a micro millimeter, is in KUFR and invokes the wrath of Allah, HIS angels, HIS prophet (Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam) and the entire Muslim Ummah.

Too bad. Ahmedi are muslims

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Only in your pagan, kafir country, the rest of the Islamic World, they are defined as KAFIR!

I respect them as Pakistanis only. As far as religion is concerned if they accept being Non-Muslims, I will respect them, otherwise not.

Pakistan's creation stands on the basic principle foundation of followers of the Islamic Faith. It is the reason why the official title of the country is, "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan. Our basic duty is to be practicing Muslims which uphold the laws of Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. Not only are as Muslims to adhere to the commands of Allah, but also to defend them wherever required. In an Islamic State, the absolute sovereign, is Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah.

Any who challenge HIS sovereignty in Pakistan, and in the world, must be confronted. Those who are non-Muslims, are given rights as citizens, are respected as humans, and have the right to practice their faith. But when someone's belief is invasive if the core Islamic faith, by using parts of Islam as their own and then have the gaul to parade around as Muslims. That in itself is a sinister, devious and malicious in nature. Kafir don't pretend to be Muslims, because they're true to their faith, which is the opposite of Islam. For that reason, being residents in an Islamic Country, they are respected for their honesty and by Islamic law, treated fairly. Whereas qadiyanis are at their core, enemies of Islam, when they take parts of Islam as their faith, violate the principles on the basis on which Islam is structured and prance around calling themselves Muslims. That isn't honesty, that is deceit, conniving and sinister. And by that definition, they commit KUFR, and are enemies of Islam.

 

[Musafir117]

Watch your mouth, drop down your tone and mind your manners. This is a discussion, with an open question to all Muslims and as a Muslim who practices my faith, I responded and will continue to do so. Carry on with the personal attacks, and you shall be reported.

The fundamental principle on which a Muslim is defined, is the Qalima-e-Shahadah. Absolute belief that there is no God but Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah and Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam is the FINAL PROPHET OF ALLAH. Anyone deviating from the Shahadah by even a micro millimeter, is in KUFR and invokes the wrath of Allah, HIS angels, HIS prophet (Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam) and the entire Muslim Ummah.

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Only in your pagan, kafir country, the rest of the Islamic World, they are defined as KAFIR!

Abey Jahil report me or not respect other or not declare Kafir others or not but don’t mistranslate the Kalima.
Is this is your Kalima e Shahada?


The fundamental principle on which a Muslim is defined, is the Qalima-e-Shahadah. Absolute belief that there is no God but Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah and Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam is the FINAL PROPHET OF ALLAH”
Anyone deviating from the Shahadah by even a micro millimeter, is in KUFR.

This is the Kalima e Shahada

Now where is the finality of Prophet Mohammad Mustafa SAW is in there?
Stop misinterpreting the Kalima, if you have issues with finality of Prophethood that’s along a separate debate don’t mixed it with Kalima.
Astaghfar kar