How many Pakistani members on this website respect Ahmadis?

[Nasr]

Abey Jahil report me or not respect other or not declare Kafir others or not but don’t mistranslate the Kalima. Is this is your Kalima e Shahada?

Qalima-e-Shahadah does not intricately word "Finality of Prophethood," yes. It is the basis of becoming Muslim, and as we become Muslim our belief in the word of Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah is based on our belief in the Holy Qur'an as HIS word. You can dodge, in your utter ignorance and illiteracy, from the Qalima-e-Shahadah all you want. But what you cannot dogde is the Holy Qur'an.

Surah Al-Ahzab, Ayah-40

مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَآ أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَـٰكِن رَّسُولَ ٱللَّـهِ وَخَاتَمَ ٱلنَّبِيِّـۧنَ وَكَانَ ٱللَّـهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمًا

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

Judging by your hostility, it seems as though you are qadiyani. Am I correct in assuming this? You do not need to be hostile, I am defending my faith in Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. I invite you to have a discussion on this subject, without any hostility from me to you. As a Muslim, I give you my word. And I suggest this, so that we discuss the matter, with our intellect, and not hotheads.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

One of most peaceful and progressive Muslims I have known

because mirza was sent by british to end jihad against them. and they are not muslims according to real islamic teachings accepted by all sects of muslims.

 

[El Sidd]

Now where is the finality of Prophet Mohammad Mustafa SAW is in there?

Sarkari Indian Muslay,

Zara chaadar dekh kar pao pehlaye aap.

 

[My-Analogous]

I've noticed a lot of the liberal Pakistanis on this website showing love for Christians, Sikhs, and Hindus that are Pakistani. Do you guys share the same love for Ahmadis?

I personally don't consider Ahmadis as Muslim and have a certain disdain for them since they understand the basics of Islam, yet I respect them as Pakistanis. I just consider them as misguided people. But I find it ironic when a lot of you people show all of this love to minority religions, but then go on to insult and criticize them.

Maybe it's time for a lot of you brain dead sheep to either accept that you follow western trends or follow the basic principles of your religion.

I respect every single Pakistani, but i don't consider them Muslims. I respect them as our countrymen

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I've noticed a lot of the liberal Pakistanis on this website showing love for Christians, Sikhs, and Hindus that are Pakistani. Do you guys share the same love for Ahmadis?

I personally don't consider Ahmadis as Muslim and have a certain disdain for them since they understand the basics of Islam, yet I respect them as Pakistanis. I just consider them as misguided people. But I find it ironic when a lot of you people show all of this love to minority religions, but then go on to insult and criticize them.

Maybe it's time for a lot of you brain dead sheep to either accept that you follow western trends or follow the basic principles of your religion.

I respect them as a Pakistani and they have all right to practice their beliefs even if me or others consider it wrong

why some Pakistani show more intolerance toward Qadyani as compare to non Muslims?

Its because they think Qadyani hijacked their religion. They have different beliefs yet they call themselves Muslims which confuse not only mainstream Muslims but Non Muslims as well. Non Muslims call themselves non Muslims and dont pretend to be something which they are not

 

[ZAC1]

So, everyone who disagrees with your narrow and twisted (mis)interpretation of Islam is a Non-Muslim?

Talking about interpretation of islam,it is well defined n known that Muhammad(S.A.W) is last Prophet n Messenger of Allah..The God Almighty.
If someone makes a new interpretation after 14 centuries...n give a new belief...which differs from the basic teachings of the origional version...n 57 muslim countries n their scholars agrees that origional belief n rule...
N yet they call themselves muslim ...its a fraud ..they are doing fraud...damaging Islam ...thats why people hate them all over world...
If they declare that we are ahmadies n we are not muslims then i can repesect them as human beings...but not to imposters n fake,n fraud ones.

 

[dexter]

Abey Jahil report me or not respect other or not declare Kafir others or not but don’t mistranslate the Kalima.
Is this is your Kalima e Shahada?


The fundamental principle on which a Muslim is defined, is the Qalima-e-Shahadah. Absolute belief that there is no God but Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah and Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam is the FINAL PROPHET OF ALLAH”
Anyone deviating from the Shahadah by even a micro millimeter, is in KUFR.

This is the Kalima e Shahada

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Now where is the finality of Prophet Mohammad Mustafa SAW is in there?
Stop misinterpreting the Kalima, if you have issues with finality of Prophethood that’s along a separate debate don’t mixed it with Kalima.
Astaghfar kar

Quranic verse:

O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Apostle of God and the last in the line of Prophets. And God is Aware of everything.

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
(The Holy Quran, Al-Ahzab 33:40)

We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah's leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful. But nay, by thy Lord, they will not believe (in truth) until they make thee judge of what is in dispute between them and find within themselves no dislike of that which thou decidest, and submit with full submission.
(The Holy Quran, An-Nisa 4:64-65)

O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.
(The Holy Quran, An-Nisa, 4:59)

Hadith:

I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me.
(Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Muatta')

The chain of Messengers and Prophets has come to an end. There shall be no Messenger nor Prophet after me.
(Tirmidhi, Musnad Ahmad, Anas bin Malik)

Allah will send no Apostle after me, but only Mubashshirat (Good vision or pious vision).
(Musnad Ahmad, Abu Tufail, Nasa'i, Abu Dawud)

God has bestowed upon me six favors which the former Prophets did not enjoy:

• I have been endowed with the gift of pithy and perfect speech.
  
  
• I was granted victory owing to my awe.
  
  
• The spoils of war were made lawful unto me.
  
  
• The whole earth has been made the place of worship for me and it has become the means of purification for me also. In other words, in my religion, offering of prayers is not confined to certain specified places of worship. Prayers can be offered at any place over the earth. And in case water is not available, it is lawful for my people to perform ablutions with earth (Tayammum) and to cleanse themselves with the soil, if water for bathing is scarce.
  
  
• I have been sent by Allah to carry His Divine message to the whole world.
  
  
• And the line of prophets has come to its final end in me.
  (Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah)
  

 

[Crystal-Clear]

we respect them as a kafir .

 

[Nasr]

we respect them as a kafir .

A Kafir is someone who rejects Islam for their own belief in false gods. But these qadiyanis are something else, they claim to be Muslim, yet the commit Kufr which is at the very core of a Muslim's belief. Claiming a man to be the Prophet of Allah, after Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. Now that is pure sinister, devious and evil.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Atheists don't believe in any god and organized religion.
Agnostics believe in some form of supreme being but don't believe in or practice any organized religion.

Not quite.

Agnostics claim that they do not know the truth, and that perhaps it is not knowable, so they prefer to lead their lives in what they think is a good way, ignoring the restrictions laid down by any particular religion.

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[Crystal-Clear]

A Kafir is someone who rejects Islam for their own belief in false gods. But these qadiyanis are something else, they claim to be Muslim, yet the commit Kufr which is at the very core of a Muslim's belief. Claiming a man to be the Prophet of Allah, after Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. Now that is pure sinister, devious and evil.

they dont believe in shahada which is core principle of Islam.

 

[Ghessan]

people here have shown their lack of knowledge towards Islam which itself is a shame for us all being Muslims. please study your own religion which is supreme and is inviting everyone to the love of Allah and his Messenger Muhammad peace be upon him.

there is Ilm which is from Allah and then there is jahalat, when there is Ilm, jahalat is not there and vice versa, it is as simple as that.

don't go after maulvis with certain sect they have misguided the masses already since decades for their own benefit.

study tafsirs by different thoughts, you will get knowledge about Islam and would be able to know the right and wrong.

a Muslim has to decide if he is a Muslim first or a member of a society in which he is living then he can interpret.
being Muslim he must know his religion and he will know the rules of a Muslim society and if living as a minority will also get guidance from his religion how to practice his rights.

one with a preference otherwise need not to argue with.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Why such topics are allowed to make here ? what the hell it has to do with pdf ?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I respect them as in I wont do anything similar to Kristallnacht or what the gangu terrorists are doing.

But I dont agree with their twisted teachings.

 

[Well.wisher]

Is that a question . Do we need beliefs to judge whether we respect some humans or not .
It should be necessity nd requirement .