Good bye folks

[YeBeWarned]

@Starlord who was that iranian member who was abusing prophet as well


I understand you are upset, so are we. What that guy said is beyond showing him any leniency and he must be removed from this forum. But you shouldn't abuse their gods as this is what's taught to us.

some Iranian guy with Persian name . I will post it here when i remember

 

[war&peace]

Tell me something mate, had this been said infront of us face to face, what would've been our reaction? Abuses wouldve been the least of this scums problems.

I totally understand your sentiments and you can clearly see which side I stand ..very openly and calling all admins to take action. But my dear bro, if we do the same then we hurt our cause.

 

[Awan68]

@Starlord who was that iranian member who was abusing prophet as well


I understand you are upset, so are we. What that guy said is beyond showing him any leniency and he must be removed from this forum. But you shouldn't abuse their gods as this is what's taught to us.

There gods are false, they do not exist so doesnt matter either way. In this case we are not trying to convert this hindu scum but out him in his proper place. What he has said is not forgiveable. Hindu sensibilities are pretty low on my priority list after what a seasoned member from this community on this forum uttered.

 

[Ace of Spades]

some Iranian guy with Persian name . I will post it here when i remember

I read his post but i was in the middle of something and later that thread got buried under other threads. Couldn't find it later

 

[war&peace]

some Iranian guy with Persian name . I will post it here when i remember

Something like @"PERSIAN bla bla"?

 

[AMG_12]

What is taught to us is to fight idolism where ever encountered. Jab seedhy tareeky se nhn manty to our history is full of conquests to set things right.

Then go take up arms against all the Hindus in Pakistan or go fight India instead of using this idol worshipper developed internet.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Something like @"PERSIAN bla bla"?

yes, something like Persian 101 or something else

 

[Awan68]

I totally understand your sentiments and you can clearly see which side I stand ..very openly and calling all admins to take action. But my dear bro, if we do the same then we hurt our cause.

Mate i understand u believe me but this not some just some cause thay we are advocating. There is no need to suck up to the mods, thier initial leniancy has spoken tonnes. This should be automatic on a Pakistani run forum, this is not something we should have to fight for here. I consider it an insult to my honour to have to fight for the respect of Holy Prophet(pbuh) on a Pakistani forum. This is utter disgrace. This is the first time i have felt ashamed of bieng a Pakisani due to the actions of fellow country men.

Then go take up arms against all the Hindus in Pakistan or go fight India instead of using this idol worshipper developed internet.

Ever heard of thing callee ghairat? U do not seem to have it. Shut ur hole n do not, i repeat do not qoute me again.

 

[HRK]

This is not some cause but a matter of life n DEATH, had this been face to face, abuses would've been the least of this @AUSTERLITZ scum problems.

There gods are false, they do not exist so doesnt matter either way. In this case we are not trying to convert this hindu scum but out him in his proper place. What he has said is not forgiveable. Hindu sensibilities are pretty low on my priority list after what a seasoned member from this community on this forum uttered.

You are raising your voice for the NOBILITY of holy prophet (PBUH) in undignified manner by hurling abuses to other's religion now you decide ....

Is it even justified ....??? even in Islam ... ???

Translation: And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.
link: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=6&verse=108

 

[Awan68]

You are raising your voice for the NOBILITY of holy prophet (PBUH) in undignified manner by hurling abuses to other's religion now you decide ....

Is it even justified ....??? even in Islam ... ???
View attachment 531194
Translation: And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.
link: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=6&verse=108

My reaction is in coherrence to how Umar(ra) reacted on many occasions, i knw that the Prophet(pbuh) stopped him on several ocassions but acc to me the power to restrain in cases of insult to the Prophet(pbuh) rested only with him. Remember how Allah reacted in the case of abu lahab and abu jahil on account of insults to the Prophet(pbuh). I may be wrong and iam ready to burn in hell for bieng wrong, i dont care.... I will never restrain my self in cases of insults to the Prophet(pbuh)'s person.

 

[halupridol]

Looks like i missed alot,
@jamahir
Where did this happen?link

Funny thing is religious insults,religious innuendos,belittling religious practices/beliefs plus mc bc is pretty day to day affair here in pdf.
.
Many posters(including certain staff) and alot here demanding "justice" have no problem blatantly insulting other religions.many of the hurt snowflakes here thank those posts promptly.while certain staff will handout seletive negative ratings.
So what exactly is new here???
What was that,,umm,,,do unto others,,

 

[AfrazulMandal]

I have found @AUSTERLITZ to be a level headed member. I don't think he would have said what he said without instigation from others. It's also hard to keep your cool while talking to @Areesh That guy is a nut case.

@django was right to take the issue to mods. But he called @AUSTERLITZ things that imo he should not have. He got agitated and that's sort of understandable.

Another point is, in PDF many posters make derogatory remarks to Hindus(I think @AUSTERLITZ was called idol worshipper in a derogatory manner) which is often brushed under the carpet.

I think there should a rule of direct ban without warning for those who insult other's religion or country. Because when one member do it to another, he would be compelled to reply in kind. And in many case mods take too long to take any action. I understand they don't have all the time but when this discussions are going on and mods are busy elsewhere, members would feel compelled to reply insult with bigger insult.

How should we call idol worshippers as? Muthy pujaris? Isn't that a correct translation?

Indian troll ... Don't know where they get their stamina of making fake accounts again and again... How shallow is one's life to do that? How miserable does one have to be...


As for the topic... Severely disappointed in @AUSTERLITZ ... I have noticed his downfall from once a seasoned poster into a bakht very easily readily willing to stoop to levels of indian trolls..

I am grateful to him for his contribution and have learned much from him but his words and actions demand punishment where demotion should be the minimum... Its not about other posters but the prestige of the forum and the position he holds.. For him to attack the religion of this forum majority member and the religion of not only country this forum represents but also of his own brethren of the millions that reside in his own country... Does that not highlight the character of a person when he talks about how multiregious his own country is and how tolerant it is and then moves to abuse the very religion... That requires a punishment and an open announcement that he is not deservant of the respect given to him... This is the second time in my forum life when an Indian I considered rational and sensible was found abusing my religion... I lost respect back then for that guy and I have lost respect for austerlitz now...

If he is willing to apologize then that is a different story...

I am not going to blame the moderation team as they have the worst of both worlds and I understand their difficulty in combatting the barrage of Indian trolls who make it their mission to come here and troll and earn "battle scars" ... Its a daunting task...

Bhakt?

Let me tell you something. A Hindu remains a Hindu. You Pakistanis may not have sufficient experience with them.

Secondly, and most importantly, trolls who provoke non-Muslims into making such disgusting and inflammatory statements about our beloved Prophet (SAW) are equally responsible for the reprehensible reaction resulting from their provocation.

How? With all due respect... how?
If I provoke you by saying you look stupid, does that justify you coming and killing me and my family? There is a sense of proportion that is acceptable.

Why are you guys hurling abuses at Hinduism and complaining if they do the same (to some people in this thread, you're no different than that guy)? Across the board moderation should be introduced regardless of one's faith or nationality with permanent ban.

What happened to Freedom Of Expression? Hinduism is not a religion. It is a set of ideas and superstition. Why is it immune to abuse? My Govt is not immune to abuse, my life is not, neither is my work. Why is Hinduism so special?

You are raising your voice for the NOBILITY of holy prophet (PBUH) in undignified manner by hurling abuses to other's religion now you decide ....

Is it even justified ....??? even in Islam ... ???
View attachment 531194
Translation: And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.
link: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=6&verse=108

This is absolutely not applicable here. Sorry.
This is the 21st century. Hindus knows VERY WELL what Islam is. The message has been revealed. For centuries. They can't claim they don't have knowledge.

 

[Diggy]

I wonder if this thread is supposed to have been created to extend some kind of a solidarity to this django guy or
gather a lynch mob here for AUSTERLITZ. The moderators need to carefully decide do they want to encourage this sort of a behavior. I see a lot of posts where he is being quoted & a lot of hateful messages being written , as if he being unfairly blamed for someones exit is not enough.

I have come across a lot of nasty things being written about hindu gods & goddesses here , most of the times i ignore and move on , this is not the first time nor the last time someone abused someones god , why make such a big deal ? the matter is in front of disciplinary committee , let them decide , all the chaps who are assembling here to abuse AUSTRELITZ are big hypocrites , i am sure at some point they would have written equally nasty things about someones culture or someones religion , but that din't caught someones attention so all of them crying wolf here.

 

[war&peace]

So, time to bid farewell to this very forum has come at last

I think the same..

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

It will be abused by trolls


Kindly baat mirch masala daal ker mat bolo

Pardon? What in the hell did I say that it was adding "mirch masala"? Kindly dont accuse people with false allegations.