Gambia President Declares Islamic Statehood

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Congrats on the decision

 

[mike2000 is back]

Nice to see 2 members here with the same interest in African Politics(atleast in 1 part of the continent) like me . Though honestly speaking due to lack of time(I'm a student) I haven't kept track of it for some time.

By the way please address to him as his official title in the future if possible: "His Excellency Sheikh Professor" .

His official name is Sheikh Professor Doctor Alhaji Yahya Abdoul Aziz Jamus Junkung Jammeh Nasirul Deen Babibli Mansa)
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Here is what he said about gays in 2013:-
"Homosexuality is anti-god, anti-human, and anti-civilization. Homosexuals are not welcome in the Gambia. If we catch you, you will regret why you are born. I have buffaloes from South Africa and Brazil and they never date each other. We are ready to eat grass but we will not compromise on this. Allowing homosexuality means allowing satanic rights. We will not allow gays here."
5 crazy things about the Gambian dictator who just survived a coup attempt - The Washington Post

Read this too:-http://Yahya Jammeh: Gambian Dictator Betrays Kunta Kinteh Okayafrica.

He's just another African Dictator.

This guy has a terrible human rights track record. Locking up & torturing journalists & critics is a past-time for him. Executions,forced disappearances,threats are supposed to be frequent.

I even heard this monster's forces even gunned down 14 children for protesting against his regime in 2000!!
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He is declaring gambia an "Islamic State" for 2 reasons:-
1) To increase his supports among the clergy & among the religious & the devout Muslims in his nation i.e. solidifying his support. Expect more open displays of "Hey, I'm a good muslim" in the future.
2)To increase the fund supply from Saudi Arabia & other gulf nations.

& not because he really loves Islam & is truly dedicated to it.

Well, its just politics he is playing and will use any other means to remain in power just like all Corrupt/incompetent African dictators. So its nothing new to be honest. Been there done that. Only the naive/misinformed think he is doing something new/groundbreaking for Gambia . lool

 

[Darmashkian]

To be honest with you, I agree with everything you said. Africa indeed is the forgotten Continent even though its the mother of the Cradle/birthplace of humanity and the cradle of Civilization.
It's really unfortunate that the whole world forgets about Africa even when there are far worse wars/conflicts going on there like the one you mentioned in Northern Nigeria, where its estimated that Boko Haram kills thousands of people every year. Yet the response from foreign powers/media//International community isn't the same like the one they give to even the Middle East. The hell, the war in Congo Kinshasa alone has killed close to 6 million people and is still continuing to this day, yet we don't hear the media/newspapers talk much about it like they do with other conflicts in other region.

The most saddest thing is that Africa(Sub saharan) is the continent i love the most of all continents/places i have been to in my whole life( and i have been to a lot of countries believe me). The people are the most welcoming/open/accepting/friendly people you will ever see anywhere in the world. Whether you are Chinese, Indian, Filipinos, European, Latino or Arabic people in sub Saharan Africa welcome you with open arms and they don't discriminate at all(if anything they treat their guest better than locals at times). Yet people still look down on them/discriminate against them everywhere more than any other race/people.
Africa also has alot of natural resources(probably the most endowed continent in the world in terms of natural resources), but the leaders/rulers are all corrupt/incompetent to the core(with the exception of a very few). The continent is ruled by despots/dictators and elite family who will never cede power peaceful to another even if it means destroying their whole country/civil war just like Assad in Syria and most recently the president of Burundi who modified the constitution to seek another term. Burundi Chaos Shows Anger Against Long-Time Africa Rulers - Bloomberg Business
The good/friendly people of Africa deserve better than these old corrupt despots. At least a few countries in Africa are showing a good example like Ghana, Botswana, Senegal etc.So there is still hope that things can one day change. Since African countries are growing very fast as well. Over the past decade six of the world’s ten fastest-growing countries were African. In fact, eight of the past ten years, Africa has grown faster than East Asia. Even allowing for the knock-on effect of the northern hemisphere’s slowdown, the IMF expects Africa to grow by 6% this year and nearly 5.6% in 2015, about the same as Asia. However, the commodities boom is partly responsible. In 2000-11 around a quarter of Africa’s growth still came from higher revenues from natural resources. Which to my opinion isn't sustainable like we have seen with the recent plunge in natural resource prices which has led to a slow down in growth of many African countries.
Also, Clean portable water is rare in most of Africa (even those parts outside the sub-Saharan region) despite the fact that the continent is crossed by several major rivers and contains some of the largest freshwater lakes in the world(even electric power isn't enough even for a country like Congo Kinshasa who has the worlds largest hydro electric power potential. ). However, many of the major population centers are coastal, and few major cities have adequate sewage treatment systems. Although boiling water is a possibility, fuel for boiling is scarce as well. The problem is worst in Africa's rapidly growing cities, such as Cairo, Nairobi, Lagos and Kinshasa. etc

Anyway we are going off topic. lets stick with Gambia's president Yaya Jameh and his healing powers. Hope you will have the opportunity to one day travel to Africa, you should , its a stunning continent you wont regret it. Plus you don't need to be careful President YAYA of Gambia will treat you if you get infected with any STDs.



LOL isn't it

Africa has tremendous potential:- mineral & natural resources, freshwater sources,oil etc.

It's almost tragic the way most of the continent is going.

But it isn't that bad for the entire continent,some nations are doing relatively better compared to the others-South Africa,Angola,Botswana,Namibia & Algeria.

Some of the Island nations like Seychelles & Mauritius too are doing quite well.
Africa's prosperity Report: The winners and losers - CNN.com

That doesn't mean they don't have their problems. Jacob Zuma of SA is really corrupt. he used govt. money to make renovations worth 23 million dollars to his rural farmhouse... all for security
President Zuma, the plot and the day he lost it | Daily Maverick
Zuma's postcard from parallel universe, with love to South Africa | Daily Maverick
"I argued one time with someone who said the country comes first and I said as much as I understand that, I think my organisation, the ANC, comes first.”
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BUT..
One of the reasons why Africa is poor & undeveloped.. is ...democracy. Yes or as I say for such cases:- Demo-crazy.

People always vote on tribale/ethnic/religious lines & is the favoured pattern of voting in the rural areas. Even many people in the urban areas aren't exempted from it! This phenomenon is common in India & Pakistan(though it's coming down).
Infact such a phenomenon occurs in places where tribalism/clanism like feelings are strong & have pre-dominated for centuries. You are from the West, so I doubt you will understand this phenomenon.

Many African dictators also look to their clans for support when they are in power

Basically the leader may be corrupt, a murderer, an incompetent imbecile etc.
At the end of the day, the community he belongs to+how he plans to help their community+his plans for their rivals/enemies+how many candidates he has fielded are from your community, how many have/will become ministers etc matters to them. Period

& that's how the final voting occurs

Good governance & development?? who needs that when you can vote for someone who belongs to YOUR community.

 

[acetophenol]

Religions,phew!

 

[mike2000 is back]

Good governance & development?? who needs that when you can vote for someone who belongs to YOUR community.

ahahahaha......... You are correct about that, i also heard similar comments from some African friends i met during during my visits in some countries in the region. Hopefully with time things will change as people begin to be more aware,educated,informed etc

 

[Darmashkian]

ahahahaha......... You are correct about that, i also heard similar comments from some African friends i met during during my visits in some countries in the region. Hopefully with time things will change as people begin to be more aware,educated,informed etc

Education doesn't always help,sometimes it creates educated bigots.. Trump is a good example.

What you need is Education+ an encouragement of a broad-minded atitude+strengthening the need to look beyond your own community to the greater good of your nation & your continent+strengthening a pan-african identity & globalization (sometimes it plays an important role)

By the way if you want to read more carefully a more closer model of how democracy works in such nations where claims/tribalism exists & why it's not THE solution, you should try this book http://www.economist.com/node/13361056


That will take a LOT of time. But it isn't impossible

By the way check some of President Zuma's statements out. Truly unbelievable
1)"I argued one time with someone who said the country comes first and I said as much as I understand that, I think my organisation, the ANC, comes first.”

2)"I always say to business people that if you invest in the ANC, you are wise. If you don’t invest in the ANC, your business is in danger. The TG [ANC treasurer general] is a nice and a handsome young man. When he knocks, open the doors. If he says we need something he will ask one thing only. If he says support the ANC, just write a blank cheque with the instruction that it should be six digits,"
Your business is in danger if you don't donate to the ANC – Zuma | News | National | M&G

3)“Sorry, we have more rights here because we are a majority. You have fewer rights because you are a minority. Absolutely, that’s how democracy works. So, it is a question of accepting the rules within democracy and you must operate in them.”

4)
Last year, in defending South Africa’s decision to e-toll Gauteng, Zuma told a group of students that: “We can’t think like Africans, in Africa, generally.

“We are in Johannesburg, this is Johannesburg. It’s not some national road in Malawi. No,” Zuma said at a Gauteng ANC manifesto forum in October.
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Then Zuma did it again. He reportedly said he would marry a Venda woman as they “even lie down to show respect to other people”.

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How such a guy can remain the President of South Africa after making the first statement is truly incredible & a testament to his political skills,acumen & manoeuvring

 

[mike2000 is back]

People always vote on tribale/ethnic/religious lines & is the favoured pattern of voting in the rural areas. Even many people in the urban areas aren't exempted from it! This phenomenon is common in India & Pakistan(though it's coming down).
Infact such a phenomenon occurs in places where tribalism/clanism like feelings are strong & have pre-dominated for centuries. You are from the West, so I doubt you will understand this phenomenon.

Many African dictators also look to their clans for support when they are in power

Basically the leader may be corrupt, a murderer, an incompetent imbecile etc.
At the end of the day, the community he belongs to+how he plans to help their community+his plans for their rivals/enemies+how many candidates he has fielded are from your community, how many have/will become ministers etc matters to them. Period

LOL No wonder the president of Gabon (a country from central Africa) stayed in power for 43 years until he died a few years ago. Same with president of Zimbabwe who has been in power now for over 36 years and counting that's even before i was born. President of Cameroon has been in power for 33 years now and counting, president of Chad over 25 years now and counting, president of Angola 36 years and counting, President of Congo Brazzaville has been in power since 1975 and left briefly in 1990 came back in 1997 and is still there to this day i.e over 40 years at top of government. etc etc There are dozens of such leaders in Africa. When they and their clan gain power its like marriage i.e for better for worse, till death do us apart.

 

[ZeusMK]

Not surprised that you will salute a genocidal maniac a butcher of his own people as long as he has made "islam" his constitution now. Congrats on another dictator joining the collective. A collective that see's- if no oil in their country, they are among the poorest and most backward.

'The doors of Repentance are open till Death'

 

[mike2000 is back]

Education doesn't always help,sometimes it creates educated bigots.. Trump is a good example.

What you need is Education+ an encouragement of a broad-minded atitude+strengthening the need to look beyond your own community to the greater good of your nation & your continent+strengthening a pan-african identity & globalization (sometimes it plays an important role)

By the way if you want to read more carefully a more closer model of how democracy works in such nations where claims/tribalism exists & why it's not THE solution, you should try this book http://www.economist.com/node/13361056


That will take a LOT of time. But it isn't impossible

By the way check some of President Zuma's statements out. Truly unbelievable
1)"I argued one time with someone who said the country comes first and I said as much as I understand that, I think my organisation, the ANC, comes first.”

2)"I always say to business people that if you invest in the ANC, you are wise. If you don’t invest in the ANC, your business is in danger. The TG [ANC treasurer general] is a nice and a handsome young man. When he knocks, open the doors. If he says we need something he will ask one thing only. If he says support the ANC, just write a blank cheque with the instruction that it should be six digits,"
Your business is in danger if you don't donate to the ANC – Zuma | News | National | M&G

3)“Sorry, we have more rights here because we are a majority. You have fewer rights because you are a minority. Absolutely, that’s how democracy works. So, it is a question of accepting the rules within democracy and you must operate in them.”

4)
Last year, in defending South Africa’s decision to e-toll Gauteng, Zuma told a group of students that: “We can’t think like Africans, in Africa, generally.

“We are in Johannesburg, this is Johannesburg. It’s not some national road in Malawi. No,” Zuma said at a Gauteng ANC manifesto forum in October.
--
Then Zuma did it again. He reportedly said he would marry a Venda woman as they “even lie down to show respect to other people”.

--------------------
How such a guy can remain the President of South Africa after making the first statement is truly incredible & a testament to his political skills,acumen & manoeuvring

ahahahahha..........Good comedian . I need to meet that Zuma of a guy.

 

[Steve781]

Has his banana trick cured AIDS yet?

 

[mike2000 is back]

'The doors of Repentance are open till Death'

Yes indeed. No wonder they stay in power until death, ruining their whole country and sacrificing/condemning a whole generation.

President Obama rightly said this in Africa at AU headquarters this year, when he warned these corrupt incompetent despots who refuse to step down when their term expires.

Obama warns on Africa leaders refusing to step down

• 28 July 2015

Media caption: Barack Obama: "Nobody should be president for life"
US President Barack Obama has ended his visit to Africa by warning the continent will not advance if its leaders refuse to step down when their terms end.

"Nobody should be president for life," Mr Obama said.

He was speaking at the African Union's headquarters in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, the first time a sitting US president has addressed the body.

Earlier in the trip, Mr Obama visited Kenya, the homeland of his late father.

"I don't understand why people want to stay so long, especially when they have got a lot of money," he told the 54-member AU, an apparent criticism of African leaders who have done just that.

Calling on the AU to ensure leaders respect their constitutions and step down when their term ends, Mr Obama specifically mentioned Burundi, whose president Pierre Nkurunziza has controversially been re-elected for a third term.

"Sometimes you will hear leaders say 'I'm the only person who can hold this nation together.' If that's true, then that leader has failed to truly build their nation."

Image captionMr Obama's address ends his visit to Africa
He said democracy was about more than just holding elections: "When journalists are put behind bars for doing their jobs or activists are threatened as governments crackdown on civil society then you may have democracy in name, but not in substance."

And he joked about his own chances of another term in office, which he is constitutionally barred from seeking.

"I actually think I'm a pretty good president,'' he said. "I think if I ran, I could win. But I can't!" @Blue Marlin

Analysis: Karen Allen, BBC News, Addis Ababa
President Obama reminded me of a steam engine gathering speed as it approached its destination.

He had come to the AU to pay tribute to Africa's huge potential, the vibrancy of its youth and the impressive rates of economic growth in some countries. But he also wanted to deliver another message. Diplomacy was dispensed with and he faced the wind.

He warned that leaders who overstayed their terms in office "were not beyond the law", citing Burundi as an example.

Yet he neutralised the sting with a bit of self-deprecation. Who would want to stay in office for longer? He knows a thing or two about such things.

Some in the audience emerged blinking in disbelief that he had talked with such candour. A university student I chatted to confided that he was afraid of applauding in case anyone was watching him. Such is the level of paranoia and fear of intelligence officials here.

"I was looking around and I was wondering 'should I clap?'" he said. The expression on his face gave it away. It felt good, he said.

Mr Obama also called for an end to the "cancer of corruption", saying it was the key to unlocking Africa's economic potential.

The money could be used to create jobs and build schools and hospitals, Mr Obama said.

The rapid economic growth in Africa was changing "old stereotypes" of a continent hit by war and poverty, he said.

But unemployment needed to be urgently tackled on a continent whose one billion people will double in a few decades, Mr Obama said.

"We need only look to the Middle East and North Africa to see that large numbers of young people with no jobs and stifled voices can fuel instability and disorder," he added.

In echoes of his speech in the Kenyan capital Nairobi, Mr Obama condemned the repression of women, saying the "single best indicator of whether a nation will succeed is how it treats its women".

His address to the AU marks the end of his five-day visit to Africa.

The trip has focussed heavily on trade and security, but he also found time in Kenya to meet relatives of his father, including his half-sister Auma.

Obama warns on Africa leaders refusing to step down - BBC News

Has his banana trick cured AIDS yet?

hahahahahahha............you can volunteer if you need treatment to see for yourself.

 

[ZeusMK]

Yes indeed. No wonder they stay in power until death, ruining their whole country and sacrificing/condemning a whole generation.

President Obama rightly said this in Africa at AU headquarters this year, when he warned these corrupt incompetent despots who refuse to step down when their term expires.

Obama warns on Africa leaders refusing to step down

• 28 July 2015

Media caption: Barack Obama: "Nobody should be president for life"
US President Barack Obama has ended his visit to Africa by warning the continent will not advance if its leaders refuse to step down when their terms end.

"Nobody should be president for life," Mr Obama said.

He was speaking at the African Union's headquarters in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, the first time a sitting US president has addressed the body.

Earlier in the trip, Mr Obama visited Kenya, the homeland of his late father.

"I don't understand why people want to stay so long, especially when they have got a lot of money," he told the 54-member AU, an apparent criticism of African leaders who have done just that.

Calling on the AU to ensure leaders respect their constitutions and step down when their term ends, Mr Obama specifically mentioned Burundi, whose president Pierre Nkurunziza has controversially been re-elected for a third term.

"Sometimes you will hear leaders say 'I'm the only person who can hold this nation together.' If that's true, then that leader has failed to truly build their nation."

Image captionMr Obama's address ends his visit to Africa
He said democracy was about more than just holding elections: "When journalists are put behind bars for doing their jobs or activists are threatened as governments crackdown on civil society then you may have democracy in name, but not in substance."

And he joked about his own chances of another term in office, which he is constitutionally barred from seeking.

"I actually think I'm a pretty good president,'' he said. "I think if I ran, I could win. But I can't!" @Blue Marlin

Analysis: Karen Allen, BBC News, Addis Ababa
President Obama reminded me of a steam engine gathering speed as it approached its destination.

He had come to the AU to pay tribute to Africa's huge potential, the vibrancy of its youth and the impressive rates of economic growth in some countries. But he also wanted to deliver another message. Diplomacy was dispensed with and he faced the wind.

He warned that leaders who overstayed their terms in office "were not beyond the law", citing Burundi as an example.

Yet he neutralised the sting with a bit of self-deprecation. Who would want to stay in office for longer? He knows a thing or two about such things.

Some in the audience emerged blinking in disbelief that he had talked with such candour. A university student I chatted to confided that he was afraid of applauding in case anyone was watching him. Such is the level of paranoia and fear of intelligence officials here.

"I was looking around and I was wondering 'should I clap?'" he said. The expression on his face gave it away. It felt good, he said.

Mr Obama also called for an end to the "cancer of corruption", saying it was the key to unlocking Africa's economic potential.

The money could be used to create jobs and build schools and hospitals, Mr Obama said.

The rapid economic growth in Africa was changing "old stereotypes" of a continent hit by war and poverty, he said.

But unemployment needed to be urgently tackled on a continent whose one billion people will double in a few decades, Mr Obama said.

"We need only look to the Middle East and North Africa to see that large numbers of young people with no jobs and stifled voices can fuel instability and disorder," he added.

In echoes of his speech in the Kenyan capital Nairobi, Mr Obama condemned the repression of women, saying the "single best indicator of whether a nation will succeed is how it treats its women".

His address to the AU marks the end of his five-day visit to Africa.

The trip has focussed heavily on trade and security, but he also found time in Kenya to meet relatives of his father, including his half-sister Auma.

Obama warns on Africa leaders refusing to step down - BBC News



hahahahahahha............you can volunteer if you need treatment to see for yourself.

why don't you focus on the brighter side for once..

 

[mike2000 is back]

why don't you focus on the brighter side for once..

Reality in this aspect is never bright i'm afraid. Sometimes we have to face reality.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Yes indeed. No wonder they stay in power until death, ruining their whole country and sacrificing/condemning a whole generation.

President Obama rightly said this in Africa at AU headquarters this year, when he warned these corrupt incompetent despots who refuse to step down when their term expires.

Obama warns on Africa leaders refusing to step down

• 28 July 2015

Media caption: Barack Obama: "Nobody should be president for life"
US President Barack Obama has ended his visit to Africa by warning the continent will not advance if its leaders refuse to step down when their terms end.

"Nobody should be president for life," Mr Obama said.

He was speaking at the African Union's headquarters in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, the first time a sitting US president has addressed the body.

Earlier in the trip, Mr Obama visited Kenya, the homeland of his late father.

"I don't understand why people want to stay so long, especially when they have got a lot of money," he told the 54-member AU, an apparent criticism of African leaders who have done just that.

Calling on the AU to ensure leaders respect their constitutions and step down when their term ends, Mr Obama specifically mentioned Burundi, whose president Pierre Nkurunziza has controversially been re-elected for a third term.

"Sometimes you will hear leaders say 'I'm the only person who can hold this nation together.' If that's true, then that leader has failed to truly build their nation."

Image captionMr Obama's address ends his visit to Africa
He said democracy was about more than just holding elections: "When journalists are put behind bars for doing their jobs or activists are threatened as governments crackdown on civil society then you may have democracy in name, but not in substance."

And he joked about his own chances of another term in office, which he is constitutionally barred from seeking.

"I actually think I'm a pretty good president,'' he said. "I think if I ran, I could win. But I can't!" @Blue Marlin

Analysis: Karen Allen, BBC News, Addis Ababa
President Obama reminded me of a steam engine gathering speed as it approached its destination.

He had come to the AU to pay tribute to Africa's huge potential, the vibrancy of its youth and the impressive rates of economic growth in some countries. But he also wanted to deliver another message. Diplomacy was dispensed with and he faced the wind.

He warned that leaders who overstayed their terms in office "were not beyond the law", citing Burundi as an example.

Yet he neutralised the sting with a bit of self-deprecation. Who would want to stay in office for longer? He knows a thing or two about such things.

Some in the audience emerged blinking in disbelief that he had talked with such candour. A university student I chatted to confided that he was afraid of applauding in case anyone was watching him. Such is the level of paranoia and fear of intelligence officials here.

"I was looking around and I was wondering 'should I clap?'" he said. The expression on his face gave it away. It felt good, he said.

Mr Obama also called for an end to the "cancer of corruption", saying it was the key to unlocking Africa's economic potential.

The money could be used to create jobs and build schools and hospitals, Mr Obama said.

The rapid economic growth in Africa was changing "old stereotypes" of a continent hit by war and poverty, he said.

But unemployment needed to be urgently tackled on a continent whose one billion people will double in a few decades, Mr Obama said.

"We need only look to the Middle East and North Africa to see that large numbers of young people with no jobs and stifled voices can fuel instability and disorder," he added.

In echoes of his speech in the Kenyan capital Nairobi, Mr Obama condemned the repression of women, saying the "single best indicator of whether a nation will succeed is how it treats its women".

His address to the AU marks the end of his five-day visit to Africa.

The trip has focussed heavily on trade and security, but he also found time in Kenya to meet relatives of his father, including his half-sister Auma.

Obama warns on Africa leaders refusing to step down - BBC News



hahahahahahha............you can volunteer if you need treatment to see for yourself.

id back you for presidant of gambia. but obama should ask the saudi monarchy to step down and bring democracy to the country.
mind you gambia in particular, i wont mind having a ruler like him, but what he says is a bit stupid. he said he can cure aids by herbal remidies.

 

[mike2000 is back]

id back you for presidant of gambia. but obama should ask the saudi monarchy to step down and bring democracy to the country.
mind you gambia in particular, i wont mind having a ruler like him, but what he says is a bit stupid. he said he can cure aids by herbal remidies.

LMAO. You wont mind having a President like Yaya Jameh?? The Gambian people don't think like you though. If you ever visit that beautiful country, try and ask the citizens there about their leaders and listen to their reply(that's for those who are courageous enough to say anything since they are scared to death of any security/intelligence agent listening to what they said, you can guess what happens in case they are caught criticizing the government. lol).

As for the Saudi's at least they don't hide the fact that they are Monarchy, as such there is no election whatsoever to determine who will rule the country. lol I believe all the fake republics in the Middle East and Africa should just follow the Saudis/gulf countries lead and stop this hypocrisy by declaring their country a kingdom and monarchy as well. At least that way everybody knows where they stand and they can stop wasting the little money/capital they have organizing useless elections every now and then, and all the instability that comes with it.